flying cindy paulson in the airplane? >> probably going to go up on knik river, yes. >> what was your plan with her? >> to ah, spend that day there -- out there with her. >> then what? >> come back. i have taken other girls out there before and simply come back. >> what made you decide not to bring some of them back? what happened? >> once out there, as long as they would go along with what i wanted out there, okay. go home and that was it. >> and if they didn't? >> they stayed. >> cindy paulson. 17 years old. she dresses up, lipstick, and, you know, makes herself look older, but she's a kid. she starts to be able to tell the cops what happened, you know, that she'd been kidnapped, that she'd been raped, that this guy was gonna try and fly her somewhere up to a cabin in the knik. >> gee