they're followers. they like to be the us in the us versus them, right? and donald is really good at manipulating that. i think finally, though, and this is the most troubling issue that we're facing in this context because i believe that so-called trump-ism moved beyond donald and the movement doesn't need him anymore and yet, the movement is about undoing our democracy because republicans don't want democracy. if democracy in america is stles stlesen -- strengthened, they lose. they are making a very calculate choice here to go all in on the big lie that the election was stolen, the second big lie that january 6th was no big deal, they are going all in on