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blow, columnist for "the new york times" and msnbc political analyst, and lizz winstead, founder and chief creative officer at the abortion access fund. thank you both for being here. charles, you know, i guess he said it best, right? that one of their republican colleagues there, that the republicans -- i guess the maga republicans want russia to win and want to be in the minority. what do you think? >> i think they don't care if russia wins is probably the best formulation of that. i don't think they care much about foreign policy. i think they care about creating chaos. i think they care about toeing the line for donald trump and making him look good. and all of them want to do this game where they just say, if i close my eyes and don't pay attention to it, it will go away. i wish it would go away, too, but i understand foreign policy and it's not going to go away. russia is knocking down the door of ukraine. that doesn't stay put. you know, if russia keeps

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