come in and now take it to the next level. that's all i'm saying in these conversations. >> who talks about women, who talks about women's sports nor than first take? >> stephen a., respectfully, you could have been doing this three years ago if you wanted to. >> that viral moment encapsulates the general tone and feeling about the wnba and women's basketball in general these days. espn analyst monica mcnut absolutely cooked host stephen a. smith as they discussed the latest controversy to come out of the sudden boom of interest in the wnba which seems to center on caitlin clark and in it a conversation about disparate treatment for black and white players after chenied carter who is black shoulder shot clark, knocking her down. the foul was upgraded after the game to a flagrant foul. clark has become a polarizing figure due to all the fanfare