foreign policy mastermind that makes donald trump do that which he doesn't want to do. and third is it's a confession that the thing is both happening and bad, which was not where he was ten days ago. >> uh-huh. >> you know, you know, it does seem to say, oh, i have to get away from this. i have to blame somebody. >> well, this whole week has been about getting away from this. and it just seems like there isn't a getting away from this. it seems to be getting deeper and deeper and deeper. the second whistleblower, the release of the transcript. i mean, this isn't going to go away. >> yeah. >> and i think it's time to really lawyer up with good lawyers this time. >> right. if you are going to compare -- if you are going to compare what the whistleblower are saying, one person the whistleblower did not highly focus on or blame was rick perry. i don't mean to take this too seriously. i'm just mentioning it. >> rick perry has not been in play since "dancing with the stars."