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MSNBC Up With David Gura November 30, 2019 14:14:00

taliban. the announcement comes at a time when president trump's involvement with the military is under scrutiny. most recently richard v. spencer, former navy secretary, was fired after his opposition to president trump's handling of the ousting of edward gallagher. he expressed his frustrations, his insistence to thwart this. it was a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, fight ethically or be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. the sentiments seemed to be shared by a number of military leaders and rank and file leaders. with us now is retired colonel lawrence wilkerson. colonel, let me start by reacting to the op ed. it was scathing. this was laying out there the calls that he received from the white house counsel, the pressure that he was under. i just want to get your reaction

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