pence's former chief of staff mark short and other pence aides so they know -- and there's there's a lot of reporting on what happened to pence that day. so, they know a lot of what occurred around the vice president, what he faced. but there's still some of these planks that only pence can fill in. so it will be very interesting to see if he voluntarily appears. i doubt that, i would he fight a subpoena. we'd have to see what his own political ambitions are for the future. >> certainly, we know he would risk alienating other republicans. >> and trump. trump would be the one you'd worry about, yeah. >> speaking of trump, we know he has cancelled his news conference for tomorrow in counterprogramming with the january 6th alec. bres, how much role do you think republicans have played in this, there's been reporting that key allies got on capitol hill and