serious update if it's going to pass. she did agree it will end up being smaller. >> well, let me just say, "chunks" is an interesting word. what the president calls chunks, i would hope would be a major bill going forward. it may be more limited, but it is still significant. a bipartisan group of senators is moving forward with an effort to update the 1887 senator count act. joe manchin is teaming with republican susan collins of maine to discuss overhauling the law and protecting election workers, but the white house is making clear this does not make up for the voting rights bill that famed in the senate earlier this week. >> we've never been against it. we have always wanted to be clear it was not a substitute for voting rights legislation, which some, i think, were attempting to project.