This part, and partly because of the sheer exhaustion of a traumatized community. And partly the sense that the wheels of justice are in moment. There were major developments today. The grand jury began to hear evidence for the first time today. Attorney general eric holder came to town to meet with fbi agents pursuing a federal civil rights investigation, which included conducting a third autopsy and canvassing the neighborhood for witnesses to his death. Holder met with local leaders and students who shared their experience with dealing with the police. We told him some people were targeted, people of low income were targeted. He told a story about when he was growing up, he was pulled over by a new jersey state trooper. He told a story how he they told him to get out of his car, they searched his car. Holder and Justice Department officials are weighing whether to open a broader civil rights investigation into policing practices in ferguson. At a lunch stop, holder met the man who in many ways has become the face of officialdom. Captain ron johnson, charged with overseeing security. We had the Community Came out, activists, the elders of this community. After a briefing from fbi investigators and a meeting with elected officials, holder had an emotional meeting with Michael Browns family. His trip to ferguson was intended to reassure the community there will be justice for mike brown delivered, possibly by an entity they can trust. The reason why his visit was so important is because of the chasm of distrust between the community and the st. Louis county prosecutor. That investigation is now the subject of a political roar between mcculloch and the governor, which the prosecutor is practically daring the governor to take him out of the case. The governor has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor and mcculloch said he wont step aside unless ordered to do so. Last night, the governor said he wouldnt ask him to recuse himself, but there is a well established process by which a prosecutor can recuse himself from a pending investigation. In other words, each is saying no, you go first. Mcculloch tore into the governor on the governor. Unfortunately, if its nixonian double speak as usual. He undermines everything except the cover that hes drafted or pulled over his head. Thats his sole purpose in this. Stand up, you know, man up, stand up and say, i have this i have this authority. I am not removing mccullough, i am removing mccullough, lets get on with this. He cited one of his most vocal critics, who was standing with me last night calling for his removal from the case on this show. I caught a bit of the senators statement and shes right on the money saying, hes ducking the issue. He doesnt want to answer a question. Amid all the controversy, holder told reporters he hoped the work being done in the federal investigation would help cool the heated temperatures in ferguson. The hope also is through the trip im making out here today and by stressing the importance of and the way in which this investigation is going, that hopefully will have a calming influence on the area. People know that a federal, thorough investigation is being done, being manned by these very capable people. My hope is that will have give people some real confidence that the appropriate things are being done by their federal government. Joining me now is a reporter for usa today. So what changed today, what didnt change today . I think what changed today is people really feel that the federal government has stepped in. Not just on a broad basis and a vague idea, but the idea that the attorney general, eric holder, is here in their community. Its a big deal for people here. They say he could have just stayed in washington and talked ant it, but people say now we trust that this process is going to be fair and balanced and people are going to think the federal government is going to come in and look at this from a perspective that the locals cant do. Do you feel that same sense of exhaustion among people here, people are angry and frustrated. We see fewer people on the streets tonight. Part of that is police have managed to keep people away, but theres also it seems to me and i wonder if you agree, that people are just spent. People are really exhausted. In some ways people are Walking Around in a milelong circle. But i talked to a girl today who said im not tired, because i saw Michael Browns body laying on the ground. Thats going to be the reason i keep protesting. She had a little baby and he said i gave her to my grandmother because i saw him laying there for hours and hours and i cant stop protesting until i see somebody indicted for that. That trauma and pain means theyre going to continue to protest. The trauma is very real. Im not sure necessarily of all of us in the media have done a good job of showing people that, because its hard to kind of see. But theres a real trauma to everyone, and person after person talks about seeing that body in the street. I think that body in the street is whats motivating a lot of these people to stay here. Its raining here tonight, its muggy. People are like, it doesnt matter. Im going to continue to chant his name. Theyre like, i saw that body. Hes bleeding on the ground with no sheet. And hes looking like one of us. People are traumatized by that. I think a lot of people are i talked to so many people who burst into tears trying to explain to me why theyre here. People that seen the body and people that came from chicago and new york and florida saying i also know somebody killed by the comes. I saw a man today, a lot of folks today, there was a memorial atmosphere. I saw a guy walking by just sobbing and stopping in the middle of the street, just couldnt move. It just struck me also that there hasnt been a lot of space to grieve for anyone. The funeral is monday and i think well see a lot more of that. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Joining me now, phillip agnew. It feels like theres a step happening, Michael Browns family will be traveling to new york to participate in a march there over the death of eric garner, who died. Do you think theres a moment here that will zoom out into something larger around the way policing happens in this country and criminal justice more broadly . Right. We need to talk about demands right now. I think were in a position to have a conversation with our officials about what we want. We have departments around this country that have killed black men in front of their families, in front of stores and nothing has happened. We want federal investigations. Eric holder is down here now. We want federal investigations into all of those Police Departments. Its happening in miami, its happening in chicago, in l. A. , its happening in new york. And were seeing it. Just in the past month. We want a federal investigation into all of those Police Departments. We want mcculloch off the case, too. Its like having a blind man operate on you. He hasnt convicted a Police Officer for killing a black men ever. We have concrete demands. I think its awesome the family is able to join in solidarity, but its sad it has to be at a funeral. Reverend, i was reading some history. He writes about nixon and law and order and how seminole the watts riots were in the 60s in creating the politics of law and order. To me its this question of when do we turn the corner on those politics if i think we turn the corner only with the level of resistance that we have seen. These young people have done america to a Great Service by engaging in civil disobedience and should be celebrated and not demonized. What we see is a low level, what many commentators talked about as a low level turnout is the result of high levels of police extractions on television, journalists being attacked. These young people come out and they resist. Its worth noting that. People who watch protests, if youve ever been an organizer of a protest, try to get 100 people to show up for something. Its much harder than it looks. Were looking for people who have come out, the vast majority nonviolent, risking tear gas and arrest and exhaustion. And theres no some central email blast going out. Because the experience of these young people has been one of economic depravation and unemployment in ferguson has doubled. The average income is like 1 in 4 people in ferguson lives below the poverty line. The average income is like 36,000 a year, thats a 14,000 difference. So when you look at the ways in which these folks have lived under high levels of oppression, combined with now being occupied. Police have guns at a church last night. They were searching a church last night, which is something reminiscent of the 60s. And nobody is going home. Nobody is going home. Listen, when i was out here yesterday talking to the young boys out here, i asked them one question, what do you want . Unanimously they wanted justice. You arrest this man. You bring him to justice, swift justice, just as you would if i had taken a cigarette from the store and exacted justice in the streets. Arrest this man. And its a very simple demand. But it touches on the fact that we are human. We deserve what anybody deserves when something wrong has been done and to them. And were not going to stand for a police force that thinks that they can quell that by being out here every night. You cant unsee what you saw last week. I think part of whats been important about the story also is, i went to talked to the major today in ferguson. In new york city, i remember in the mayoral race, they were talking about stop and frisk. Part of what makes the politics so tricky is people that are wellmeaning individuals who have no idea what police what it feels like to be policed in certain communities in this country. Thats going away. And this moment theyve seen it. But i think also the way in which we talked about say how things are different now, that things are calm and peaceful now, the reality is that the violence has been so high by the police. This level of violence. This is still violent. This level of violence has been normal for us, and that should scare us all. Thank you gentlemen. Thank you, dear brother. There is some other news to report tonight beside whats going on here in ferguson. We heard some of the strongest language ever used by president obama. What he was talking about, ahead. Evening has fallen here in ferguson, missouri. Theres about 100 protesters chanting no justice, no peace. Who are we here for . Mike brown. There are still people here intent on getting their voices heard. Today i talked to the mayor of ferguson who had some interesting things to say. Well bring you that interview in just a little bit. Stick around. One day of the horrifying video of the execution of james foley, president obama addressed it in some of the strongest language hes ever used as president. Isil has no ideology of any value to human beings. The ideology is bankrupt. They may claim out of expediency that they are at war with the United States or the west, but the fact is, they terrorize their neighbors, and offer them nothing but an endless slavery to their empty vision. The collapse of any definition of civilized behavior. One thing we can agree on, isil has no place in the 20th century. Secretary of state john kerry tweeted, isil must be destroyed, will be crushed. The state department submitted a request for up to 300 additional security members to beef up security in baghdad. The request is under consideration by the pentagon. No decisions have been made. James foley, who had been held captive since 2012, according to isis, will not be the only journalist executed and the video made clear its speaking to the United States. The following is a small portion of that video. This is james foley, an american citizen of your country. Just this amp, the pentagon acknowledged the pentagon attempted a rescue operation to tree hostages held by isis. The mission was not successful, because the hostages were not present at the targeted location. Meanwhile, there were 14 more u. S. Air strikes in the vicinity of the mosul dam today. Joining me now, senior fellow at the center for american progress. Lawrence, this news today about a special forces mission into syria in the midst of what is the most chaotic, darkest civil war probably on the planet right now, to extract hostages, that strikes me as a pretty big deal. Its probably the biggest thing obama has done since going after bin laden. And it shows how concerned he is about human beings. It sends a signal to isis, beware, we can come after your leaders. We got bin laden, you better be careful, as well. Theres now a situation in which you have the Prime MinisterDavid Cameron coming home from vacation because of the voice on that tape clearly seems to be someone from the uk. Weve been getting reports for months now of foreign fighters joining isis. How significant do you think that is . Its very significant, because a lot of them happen to be americans, and basically what will happen is they can go over this, get trained, and maybe come back here or come back to the uk or other european countries. I think thats what obama was trying to say today. This is not a good group thats trying to, you know, help people or reestablish, you know, the way the world was under muhammad. These are barbarians, and they kill more muslims than anybody else. Yeah, the reports out of there, some of the videos they have posted are just unspeakably horrific. Just mass slaughter, attempted genocide. I dont think theres any debate about the just absolute degraded monstrosity of what isis is doing. There is debate about what the u. S. Does about it. Theres a lot of emotion and anger, understandably, after they posted that video. Its so chilling. But what do you see as the Strategic Options from a Strategic Perspective in dealing with isis. Isis did this because they want us to stop the bombing were doing. If anything, it enhanced it. Americans who were on the fence or somewhat ambivalent are going to say no, you have to go after these people because of who they are. I think what youre going to see is many more u. S. Air strikes supporting Kurdish Forces and Iraqi Military forces, for example, they moved from the dam to try and take back tikrit. My guess is youre going to see a lot more american air strikes than we would have had this not happened. To play devils advocate, the Saddam Hussein regime was horrific in its acts as well. They also pursued genocide. So we have learned what going to u. S. War in iraq looked like. Is there a danger were being drawn back into one that wont make the lives of iraqis better or be in american strategic interest . The fact that you have a new government in baghdad gives you hope that the iraqis will do the fighting. Theyre not going to send Ground Troops in there, large Army Divisions or anything. Youre going to have, as well have now, special forces on the ground. But we use american air power. Remember how long we bombed in libya several months. 77 days in kosovo. So american air power, if you get the cooperation of the troops on the ground, can turn this around. Obama did say its up to you people to get rid of these guys. Libya strikes me as a perfect example in the respect that it stopped the assault from gadhafi. He was ultimately killed, but libya is a mess right now. Its the then what question that has a lot of people worried as we watch this kind of gradual, not so gradual escalation. Well, i think youre right. But remember, iraq is a special case. We created this mess by going in and destabilizing the country. So our moral imperative is stronger there. But obama has been very clear in the final analysis, you have to have an inclusive government. If you dont do that, you have to live with the consequences. Theres no way isis is going to go into the kurdish area now. So you have 1 3 of iraq that wont go in there. So its really the sunnis, and by these people acting so barbarically, youll see the sunnis turn against them, particularly if you have a inclusive government. Thats what happened to zarqawi that was leading a predecessor to isis that was unspeakably barbaric, and he ended up alienating everyone. Lawrence, thank you. Thank you for having me. Last night was relatively calm here in ferguson. There was several interactions, one in particular with a Police Officer and protesters that resulted in an officer being suspended today without way. Well show you that interaction caught on camera, next. Last night in ferguson, missouri was a relatively calm night. Le relatively. The first time in days police did not deploy tear gas to disperse protesters. The protests were relatively calm. Not all interactions were all calm. Late last night in ferguson, this scene was caught on camera and posted online. My hands are up. My hands are up. Hands up. [ bleep ] hands up. Youre going to kill him . Whats your name, sir. Your names go [ bleep ] yourself . Following a public outcry from the aclu and others, that officer, who works at the Saint Ann Police Department was suspended, the saint ann police chief said the officer in question raised his gun because he saw a weapon in the crowd. After realizing it was a bb gun, he continued to scan the crowd with his rifle raised. Which he described as standard procedure. When hes trying to protect the public and asking people to back up under no circumstances do i or our department condone his language. Language being the problem there. Not the gun pointing. The chief said he placed the officer on unpaid suspension. Police have killed another man just a few miles from here, where Michael Brown was killed by police. We reported that yesterday. The reaction there has been very different. Both by residents and the police. And what weve seen in ferguson. More on that ahead. Sam dodson, the chief of police in st. Louis, went before the media and announced the release of sell cell phone video of the killing of 25yearold kajiemi powell by two st. Louis Police Officers yesterday. The killing that took place just three miles from where Michael Brown was killed by police in ferguson. He was suspected of shoplifting two Energy Drinks and doughnuts from a convenience store. A 911 reporter reported that he was carrying a knife. The police chief described the video as he saw it to reporters. Th