1237. Ill speak with that member of the committee and then verizons ceo blasts Bernie Sanders for his views. You are standing up, not just for justice verizon workers, youre standing up for millions of americans who dont have a million. The trump kids make a good point. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes and breaking news in the Trump Campaign and its em battled Campaign Manager. Politico says a florida prosecutor has decided not to prosecute him for battery. He was captured on surveillance tape at Trump National golf club and later released by the jupiter release. Nbc news have not confirmed the report. Also reporting fields may pursue a defamation case. This comes after trumps relationship reaches all time lows. Just two weeks to the day after donald trump made a big show in washington boasting on twitter just had a very nice meeting with previs and the g. O. P. Looking forward to bringing the Party Together and it will happen. Theyre casting Party Leaders for conspiracy to steal the republican nomination. He blamed his resent shut out in colorado on an intentional effort to block him. The bosses and the establishment and the people that shouldnt have this power took all of the power away from the voters. So the voters never got to vote and the voters didnt know that except when i got up and complained because they did it after i joined the race and figured i would probably win colorado which i would. They called out the name yesterday with the hills saying he should be ashamed of himself because he knows whats going on. Later reminded they had changed the rules to undermine the campaign. I know the rules well and know its stacked against me. I fully understand it. Colorado is unfortunate because they disenfranchise the voters. All of the voters. Youre saying you dont think the rmc wants you to get the nomination . I dont. The Republican Party wanted cruz or maybe somebody other than trump. He has taken immince pains. I know people get frustrated and they say things they regret but certainly, one thing thats true is that the rules are not being changed in order to injure or benefit anybody. Trump was still hammering the g. O. P. Establishment and his campaign is trying to increase his appeal to the same group hiring Scott Walkers Campaign manager as its new National Political director. Trump praised his decades of experience and his deep ties to political leaders and activist across the country. Trumps story about stealing the nomination has distrust among the reporters. In a few cases something much uglier. We told you yesterday how colorado said he received Death Threats how ted cruz swept the state delegates. After they expressed reservation published on line saturday. Earlier this month both local police and private security stood guard at a g. O. P. Meeting after the party received Death Threats from Trump Supporters including one that involved trying to hang people. All along trump has been making the case even if he falls short of the 1237 delegates needed to clinch the nomination, hell have a mandate from the Republican Voters making him the legitimate nominee. Now at least one member of the important rules committee appeared to accept that argument telling msnbc trump can clinch the nomination if he gets most of the way there. What i do expect to happen is this. If donald trump exceeds 1100 votes, hell become the nominee even though he may not have 1237. Rnc immediately shot down the idea. Communications director responding on twitter the g. O. P. Has a nominee when a candidate reaches the number of delegates. I got a chance to speak to randy evans and asked him what he thought about the rebuttal. Hes absolutely right. My comment on morning joe was to simply say once donald trump, if donald trump reaches 1100 delegates, the momentum would carry him all the way to the 1237. Hell be 150 to 200 unbound delegates. The band wagon effect takes over and having been through many conventions before, hell end up with the nomination. So i want to spell this out, the scenario youre invisioning, june 7th, the final day of the primaries. Theres also new jersey, two other states. June 7th happens and he comes out of that and out of 1,100. You think essentially a domino consolidation happens where delegates step forward to saying were voting for the first ballot and the majority puts them over the threshold. Just like he did with barack obama. If you remember all the super delegates were on one side and not quiet enough to get there. By the time you get there, if you have the momentum to get to 1100, that last 3,700 jumps on the band wagon like never before. In that 2008 contest, first of all, you have the super delegates that were institutionalized portion of the electorate who refuse to make up their minds. By the time that happened, everyone folded at the table. My understanding is that ted cruz certainly and looks like john kasich will still be in the game after june 7th. You dont think that will happen . No, i think theyll be in all the way through. Theres three scenarios. Dond trump gets to 1,100. That last 137 comes along. The second possibility is no one gets to a thousand. In which case it will be a free for all. It will be Anything Possible at that Republican National convention. Then the third possibility is that we end up between a thousand and 1,100 votes. I think theres so many anti trump votes that are never going to support him in a million years. In that middle part youll have a lot of brokering going on. I can easily see a donald trump reaching out to a john kasich saying hey, why dont you be my running mate and push me over the top or a ted cruz goes to marco rubio saying we can stop donald trump but i need you, marco rubio, with some of the allies to bring your delegates with me. If we have a brokered convention, it will be because donald trump ends past a thousand and shorter than 1,100. If he gets past 1,100 hell end up with a nomination. Under a thousand well see a convention that we havent seen in a decade, a century. I seen some never trump conservatives basically saying youre a trump supporter and attempting to move the target so you can build a narrative of legitimacy around him. Is that true . No, its not. I serve on the Debate Committee and the rules committee and Nomination Committee and chairman of the Republican National lawyers association. We actually made available to every Single Campaign a blueprint so every campaign, all 17 could get all of their names on all 50 states, the District Of Columbia and the five territories. Weve been neutral. Ive been neutral all the way through. Listen, as a Senior Adviser to the gingrich campaign, do we fit into the establishment or the anti establishment . No. I think the gingrich republican as a republican that kind of comes at it from an outside. I think were more of the folks who see it a different way. We dont see an establishment, i dont see any establishment. I look at what history tells me. It tells me when winners get close to the finish line, theres a lot of folks that who want to be with them. As they always say, winners have lots of friends and losers are really orphans. Randy evans. Thanks very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Robert costca and matt welch, robert let me start with you. On the lewindowsk inews, they say hes not prosecuted. Hes got other problems on his hand because it seems like hes being pushed out to the edges of this organization. Based on my report, lewindowski isnt pushed out. Trump is certainly expanding his inner circle brings in rick wiley and Scott Walkers Campaign manager. Already have veteran hands new to the team. Ben carsons bid and of course, paul, the new strategist on delegates. It seems to me like this is attempting both an inside and outside strategy at the same time. They have to be aware the math is going to be tough to get to 1237 and theyre about to win abunch of states big. Yes, the way i see trump now is he remains his own chief strategist. Hes underscoring his outsider appeal. At the same time, this is an organization thats struggled repeatedly. Its not built relationships across the country within the Republican Party. If he wants to be the nominee he has to address that. For now, hes bringing in some people to try to address that. It remains an unresolved issue. To me, theres a carrot and stick being set up. If theyre going to get to the 1,100th randy evans said, the carrot is ive got some inside guys and the stick is my people were right. I dont know what the carrot is. The 1100, the idea history will make 1,100 turn into 1237 is just not true. At this point in the nomination process, there usually is a consolidation and a momentum. Theres a reason why this election has been so crazy. Its because history doesnt apply. Weve blown apart the rules weve had. Theres a solid never trump kind of backstop to all of this. The Washington Post came out with a story this afternoon saying basically, if donald trump doesnt get to 1237 ted cruz is going to pick up 130170 delegates in the second round. Thats trouble for trump. Let me say this. Matt, were saying this now post wisconsin. One of the things thats happened is demography has been destiny and geography has equalled momentum. In states theyre demographically declined to do well. Were now going to step into abunch of contest trump says is going to win by big margins. Does that change the pressure around trump or never trump . Pressure is very interesting. Delegate counting is what gets you there. Ted cruz is showing up delegates who in the second round will not vote for donald trump place after place. North carolina, south carolina, indiana is already a disaster for donald trump. Donald trump might win that. Thats hard work that you actually have to do. Cruz is doing it and trump is not. Robert, my question to you is does the momentum or the perceived power, perceived legitimacy, the margins, do they matter in that process or does it come down to whose in the room . I think its a little bit of both. When you look at april, its favorable trump is going to pick up some momentum and delegates are going to be paying attention and matts right as well. When you rook into early may, trump, cruz is poised to can well in indiana and then you have in june, california. Thats going to be a major test. Cruzs organization and trump as well. When you look at the summer, the pressure as youre talking about matters to delegates but organization does too in a sense that cruz has a lot of support from the people that are Trump Delegates and bound to trump and could turn on a second ballot. The question to me all along here, right, is how much spine is there in the folks that are going to have to ultimately stare down this challenge . When you hear things like that from randy evans, theres also a kind of hinting to it to me or a signaling happening in that kind of state. Whats interesting is trump is blaming the establishment for places like colorado. Hes getting it wrong. The people that are good at getting the caucus systems is not the establishment. No. Grass roots, tea party. These are the people who learned how to do this. The trump people have not learned the game in the same way the grass roots has. The establishment is rubbing their hands saying thank you. Let me tell you about this. People are talking about the Death Threats. Roger stone giving out names for a second. Lets forget about the most extreme and horrifying examples of that kind of threat of violence. I remember talking to democratic members of congress so spooked by the town halls that just happened after the summer when obamacare was on the table, they were worried about that. If you some version of that, thats going to influence the way delegates act. I think thats spot on. Ive spoken to delegates and those elected officials. If youre a state senator or representative, you have a primary threat looming over you and there could influence your decision. Thank you both for being here. Just ahead, this is a live picture of Washington Square park in new york city where Bernie Sanders is holding a massive rally tonight. Theyre turning people away. The press pin is already closed. You cant get in there after a day that began with the candidate. Well talk about the new york strategy with Campaign Manager jeff weaver live from that rally in two minutes. laughing theres nothing like making their day. Except making sure their tomorrow is taken care of too. Financial guidance while youre mastering life. From chase. So you can. To put in dr. Scholls active series insoles. While youre mastering life. They help reduce wear and tear on my legs, becuase they have triple zone protection. And reduce shock by 40 . So i feel like im ready to take on anything. Youre looking at a massive sanders has predicted a major victory in the democratic primary. The brooklyn native is doing what he can to close the gap. He has closed it considerably in the last month. His campaign picked up two big endorsements today getting his first from a fellow senator. Here in new york you got the backing of the Transportation Workers Union worker 100 which represents the 40,000 transit workers. The Union Members and communication worker of america. Verizon employees who were striking in brooklyn. This is the biggest strike in america since 2011. Sanders has accused them to cut this is the biggest strike in america since 2011. Sanders has accused them to cut the pensions and wages. Verizon saying quote the senators uninformed views are in a word contemptible. Hillary also paid a visit to workers in manhattan to shorten up in event in sanders with the others not including cwa. The workers here with my senate years are skilled and deserve to have a fair contract. Supposing a visit today noting Verizon Communications paid Hillary Clinton 225,000 for a speech in 2013 and donated money to the clinton foundation. Joining me now from that rally is Bernie SandersCampaign Manager jeff weaver. Jeff, first i would like to get your response to the word contemptible describing the views from the verizon ceo. Look, Bernie Sanders has stood up for working people his entire life and will continue to do it whether the ceo likes it or not. Hillary clinton was on the picket line today. The cwa is notable because its one of the only Large National unions. Abunch of the other big ones have come out for Hillary Clinton. Why do you think that is . Well, senator sanders has done a lot of support among labor. We have five National Unions thats supported him. The workers came out for him today. 40,000 people. Hes getting a lot of labor support and grass roots support. Let me ask you here, senator sanders is approaching the podium behind you with his wife jane. New york seems like a state that in some ways is, it should be a winnable state if the Bernie Sanders theory of change is in effect. It has lots of parts of the Democratic Base that should be amendable to his message. Its in the north. Is this some sort of test of the Sanders Coalition . Look, were doing very well here. Weve started off way down. Hes closing the gap. Its a tough fight here, the secretary was senator here two times. She has deep roots here. Were making a lot of progress here. At the end of the day were going to do well. Jeff, i want to take a second since we have the senator at the podium. Take a look to what hes saying to the crowd. Jane and i left new york city when we were kids. It is great to be back. Thank you. Let me thank emily devito, olley, dr. Pauls son, vampire weekend, tim robins, tom dewayne, linda sansore, j. P. , senator nina turner, chris shelton, rosaria dawson, spike lee. I want to thank all of them for being here tonight and for the great introductions ive received. I dont think that there is any doubt but that our Campaign Today has the momentum. We have won seven out of the last eight caucuses and primaries and when i look at an unbelievable crowd like this, i believe were going to win here in new york next tuesday. We were 60 points behind secretary clinton in the last two weeks, two polls have us is head of secretary clinton. National poll after National Poll has us defeating donald trump by double digits. But this campaign is about in your presence here tonight knows that you all understand us it is not just about electing a president. It is about creating a political revolution. It is about creating a government which works for all of us, not just wealthy campaign contributors. It is a campaign about not ignoring the veterans who sleep out on the street. But children, the elderly or the poor. Its about a government that creates a descent stand of living for every man, woman and child. What this campaign is profoundly about is understanding that real change never occurs from the top on down. It is always from the bottom on up. What this campaign is about is the understanding that when we stand together, black and white and latino and Asian American and native american, when we do not allow the Donald Trumps of the world that divide us up, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. Jeff, the candidate there, senator sanders talking about a Multiracial Coalition which is a