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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes June 11, 2016

Says donald trump is hiding. He cant afford to selffinance no matter what he says. And the next great documentary series youll be hooked on. What we did that day is created an illusion. We made him blacker. The director behind o. J. Made in america when all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes and there is a lot going on tonight. And theres been a lot going on all week. So at this hour we are waiting for donald trump to emerge in that richmond, virginia, auditorium for his First Campaign rally since Hillary Clinton effectively clinched the democratic nomination. That arena holds about 12,000 and its got about 2,000 in it, a very sparse crowd by the donald trump standard. This is a hugely important moment for trump who continues to come under sustained fire from major figures in the Republican Party even as Top Democrats are in the process of unifying around their presumptive nominee. Clinton met with senator Elizabeth Warren for over an hour today. Thats warren leaving clintons house this morning in washington, d. C. One day after president obama, Vice President warren Vice President biden and warren all endorsed clinton with warren and biden unleashing absolutely scorching attacks against trump in the process. Meanwhile, trump is absorbing more shots from his Party Leadership with Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell refusing to rile out rescinding his endorsement of trump and stating, this is a fantastic quote, its pretty obvious he doesnt know a lot about the issues. House Speaker Paul Ryan today said he personally reprimanded trump over his remarks about the federal court judge overseeing one of the several lawsuits against Trump University for fraud. Which ryan has called the textbook definition of a racist comment. And former gop president ial nominee mitt romney will not go away and will not stop haunting trump. He said just a short time ago that he worries that trump effectively creates racism. I dont want to see trickledown racism. I dont want to see a president of the United States saying things which change the character of the generations of americans that are following. President s have an impact on the nature of our nation. And trickledown racism, trickledown bigotry, trickledown misogyny, all these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of america. Trump this afternoon courted evangelicals, the faith and Freedom Coalition conference in washington, where he caught to counter claims that he is racist. Freedom of any kind means no one should be judged by their race or their color and the color of their skin should not be judged that way. Trump also told the Washington Post he is the least racist person. Pointing as evidence to an endorsement from boxing promoter don king. Now don king knows racism probably better than anybody. Hes not endorsing a racist, okay . But even as donald trump seeks to break with the words and deeds of, well, donald trump, from definitely days ago, some members of his party seem to be embracing the incendiary rhetoric that is of course a core part of trumps success and appeal. Republican senator david purdue of georgia today faced a flurry of democratic outrage for this comment at the faith and freedom conference. I think were called to pray for our country, for our leaders, and yes, even our president in his role as president. I think we should pray for barack obama. I think we need to be very specific about how we pray. We should pray like psalms 109 8 says, let his days be few. And let another have his office. Now psalms 109 8 has become a meme, appearing on tshirts, bumper stickers and billboards as far back as 2009. Its been called a secret christian code for kill the president. Thats probably a little overheated. But heres the thing, the passage specifically cited reads let his days be few and let another take his office. The passage that follows in that saul many, let his children are fatherless and his wife a widow, let his children be vagabonds and beg, let them seek their bread out of their desolate places, let the extortioner catch all that he hath, let there be none to extend mercy unto him, let there be none to favor outside fatherless children. He in no way wishes harm towards our president and everyone in the room understood that. As one republican was clarifying his position on wishing for the president s death, another representative, duncan hunter, describing his potential successor in remarkably sexist terms. I dont care about personality. And by the way, if i had to go on personality, i would still go with trump over Hillary Clinton. She is a shrill, loud person. If i wanted to vote for my grandmother, id vote for Hillary Clinton. Joining me, Washington Post katherine renpel, pollster cornell belcher, president of corners research and strategies. Monitoring the speech am richmo richmond, virginia. The crowd is not as large which is something to talk about. Lets start, to me this was the hunter thing and the purdue thing, its easy to stoke up outrage over things politicians say and i dont necessarily want to do that. What i want to do is focus on the fact that this idea of, where did donald trump come from . That has bewildered republicans . Who begat him . Right. Mitt romney today, i think what mitt romney said is correct, this is an underrated reason that donald trump is bad, that its sort of a coarsening of our public discourse, if people are so crude all the time thats going to be bad for the country in the long run, if the president says racist things other people will too. The thing is mitt romney went to Donald Trumps hotel in las vegas four years ago to accept his endorsement for president. He said it was a delight to be there with donald trump. He said donald trump had been more successful in business than him. This is after trump had spent months running around the country talking about how the president s birth certificate was a forgery and he was really born in kenya. So this stuff was foreseeable at the time. And romney i think failed to appreciate or did not care that donald trump was fomenting racism. Now he understands it. I dont want to hit romney too hard because i think he gets it now gut butt he didnt get it then. I think its not so topdown. I agree we look to political leaders for some set of setting an example, whatever. But if you look at the poll data and you look at what republicans actually believe, a solid majority of them think we should build a wall, think we should keep out muslims, think we should scrutinize more heavily muslims who are already here, dont think that the comments about the judge were racist. So it doesnt really seem to be so in tension with what the base believes. What josh is talking about with mitt romneys relationship with donald trump if 2012, this wanting to sort of get the people that support him without sort of fully embracing him but kind of keeping him at arms length, if you look at the endorsement he looks like a hostage video, like there are certain days you thought youd never see happen ask this is one of them, which is a very neutral statement about whether hes happy to be there. Then the exact same thing with Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan right now, cornell . By the way, the term trickledown racism is my new favorite thing of alltimes. Its a good term coming from him, yes. Its a really good term. The republicans are now having to deal with the seeds that they planted. This is their harvest. And it is true that you do have a large swath of the base of the Republican Party who are anxious racially. And the election of president obama built up some of that anxiety about the a changing america. Everyone is shocked. No one is shocked except the Republican Leadership who have been part and parcel of this. But the other piece of this i think is fascinating, i think its an important moment here is, that the term racist is now being mainstreamed by on both the left and the right. When you have republicans the last republican standard bearer calling the now republican standard bearer basically a racist. This is a fascinating thing. Because racism other than the n word, there may not be a more powerful word in our language than to lay racism at someone. Theyre basically saying their nominee is racist. And i think thats a fascinating thing. I agree with you. In fact, theres a great piece in the hill today josh was treating did, hadden freud de, saying other republicans are mad at paul ryan for using that word in describing Donald Trumps manifestly racist statement. Not because they think hes wrong but because its very incren. The press comes to republicans and say, do you agree with paul ryan that this was a racist statement . All of them are trying to do this dance. Ryans chosen to do the dance by saying, it was racist but i still support him. Whereas republican in the senate seem to be mostly trying to not answer the question of whether it was racist or not. Or gas light it, no, he never said those things, he didnt mean that. Sean spicer today gets up and rnc spokesperson, tip your cap to sean who has a very, very, very difficult job. But he basically tried to gas light, tried to men in black it, he basically was like, oh, no, he wasnt referring to the judges heritage. Donald trump literally said his heritage is mexican. He said, he cant be undiced against he because his heritage is mexican. He wasnt just saying, these are some attributes of this judge. He was saying, this is why he is at fault. Electorally, this is the problem. You have smart people now talking about the house might be in play because you may have a sea change election because what barack obama did in 2008 and 2012 was win moderate voters. Win that moderate middle swath of the american electorate. You know what the moderate middle swath of white voters in america dont want to be associated with . Racists. In fact, this is something that has been a key part of republican politics for a long time is whatever you know, people call it whatever racial an mulls that is in their voters that they feel is useful to stoke has to be done in ways that dont just advertise oneself as a racist because racism is rightly something that in its sort of identifiable way viewed stigmatized, properly. Polling now shows a majority of republican respondents say they dont think Donald Trumps comments were racist. 65 . Of republicans. Everyone else says it is, right. I suspect thats mostly about, in general when you poll partisans about the candidate of their party, theyll defend them. Right. So i think if you took it out of context, if it was some celebrity who said this, maybe more would say its racist require think a lot of white voters are sick of hearing about racism. Yes. I wonder exactly how this is going to play. Because the comments are so extreme that i think some of them look at it and go, no, this is actually racist. But i think a lot of people, especially republicans get in their bunker even more, yeah. Its a very good point. Katherine, josh, cornell, stick around if thats all right. Because were going to continue to watch the event in virginia where donald trump is about to hold his first rally of the general election era, essentially. We will bring you that when it happens. And then just ahead, the most feminist speech ever given by a major Party President ial nominee its fair to say happened today, Hillary Clinton at planned parenthood, taking it to trump yet again. First this is mark cuba on why hes going after donald trump and why cuban says trump doesnt want you to know about his finances. My interview with mark cuban next. [ guitar playing ] ugh. Heartburn. Sorry maam. No burning here. Try new alkaseltzer heartburn relief gummies. They work fast and dont taste chalky. Mmmm. Incredible. Looks tasty. You dont have heartburn. New alkaseltzer heartburn relief gummies. Enjoy the relief. And free hot breakfast. I but our best amenity is samantha. Free wifi, free hot breakfast and free smiles. Get up to 20 percent off as a Hilton Hhonors member at hampton. Com. Whithats obscene greed. Ple cant get it. Ggilead charges over 1,000 for toone hepa itidinner . S. May i be excused . Get the new xfinity tv app and for the First Time Ever stream live tv, watch on demand, and download your dvr shows anywhere. Keeping our eyes on richmond, virginia, the who shot you see there, the arena sits 12,000 people and there are 2,000 inside, lots and lots of empty seats. Donald trump is currently running late for his First Campaign rally since Hillary Clinton effectively clinched the democratic president ial nomination. Donald trumps fellow rich guy reality star mark cuban has had a long, complicated relationship with the presumptive nominee. Hes had a lot to say about trump, questioning his net worth, predicting hell have to golf to gop donors. Today the businessman and Dallas Mavericks owner was here in new york and i got a chance to talk with him. Youve been talking about donald trump. You have an interesting relationship. He called you recently . Is that right . Actually, he emailed me this last time. Emailed you, like whats your deal . Cut it out . He doesnt email. So i get an email from his assistance with a piece of paper thats scanned with his comments on it. And he said, what happened . What does that just because i he feels youre being unfair to him because youre being negative . Hes got one of my quotes about him on his book, you know. So things have change the. So thats what i told him. Whats changed . Why are you obviously youre a public figure, we see you, its not like youre a shrinking violet. Right. Youre in the public anyway. Why are you doing this . Why are you giving interviews about donald trump . You know i care about whats going on. And i think i have a different perspective than most people, right, from a wealth perspective, from a business perspective. Im an independent, im not affiliated with any party. So i just wanted to bring a different set of lenses to him. You told Fortune Magazine that we were asking the wrong questions about donald trump. Right. What are the right ones, according to you . Donald is driven by cash. Anybody can claim whatever net worth they want and tax returns dont really say anything. I mean, he might have one year where he sold a lot of stock, made a lot of money. Other years where he didnt need the cash, right . Theyre not really a reflection of anything. But cash is cash. Right . You cant fake it. You cant fake it on an fec filing. He tried to fake his fec file is as much as he could, and maybe hell get in trouble for that, he tried to count as income rentals revenues and thats not income. Right. But cash is cash, right . And so i just went and took about 15 minutes and added it all up. And it mostly is 165 million. Which is great, by any standard, thats a lot of money. But when youre trying to finance a president ial campaign, thats nothing. This is a really key point. He does not right now hes stuck betwixt and between, right . Because he basically ran what was kind of a con about selffunding. No, it wasnt a con at all. He lent himself the money . Lend, you cant take it all back. It was legit. Hes getting a fair amount of money in. He was also getting donations. Right. The point is what you are saying is the man is not sitting on enough liquidity to be able to selffund a campaign for president . Without question, and he knows it. Right . And thats why youre seeing him trying to adjust his perspective, right . Adjust what hes saying. So you know what, now maybe i need some help from the Republican National committee. Because he does. He cant afford to selffinance, no matter what he says. There was two pieces out, wall street journal and usa today, about his habit of stiffing folks. Right . And were talking penny ante stuff. A contractor does 20,000 worth of work, carpenter. What do you make of that . Is that a thing people do . No, you dont do that. Do you do that . No, i would be embarrassed if i did that. Ive sued literally because i was mad, ive sued two people, right . Ive had lawsuits filed against my companies, right, a lot of crazy ones. But no, im not litigious at all, i avoid lawsuits. If i was going to try to protect him, give that perspective, maybe he has people running these companies, maybe he has people doing these things, and theyre taking his without his snnlg. Yeah, so give him that. But more likely thats just who he is, right . He wants to fight. And my experience there is about 12 years ago i had a terrible tv show called the benefactor on television, right . It was abe. Part of the pitch they wanted me to say was, look, donald trump, i can spend more money than you have and not even know its gone. Right . He got all crazy and all wild, right . And his lawyers got in touch with me. So weird. For nine different reasons. But continue. Hey, look, it is what it is, right . And his lawyers got in touch with me, were going to sue you if you dont stop i said, look, make it public, give me your bank statements, ill give mine, well see. Never heard back. Part of me thinks donald trump is just revealing the fact that all of you, meaning all of americas superwealthy people park street guys. Are maniacs. Im serious. I guess persuade me otherwise. That basically this is like in the same way people say, hes revealing the Republican Party for what it is. Maybe all these people that make a huge amount of money if you say that again im going to sue you for everything you have right . Am i wrong . Youre wrong. Theres something distinct about this guy . Absolutely. I know a lot of wealthy people, people ive done business with. The only thing that changed as we got wealthier was our bank accounts. Interview my high school buddies, college buddies, my friends from dallas i am skeptical of that claim, i have to say. Go for it, feel free. I am who i am. That may be true about you no, my partner todd wagner whos a billionaire, i mean, i can give you a long list o

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