Position. We have at least 11 Million People in this country that came in illegally. They will go out. Is now taking crowd suggestions for what he should do about deportation. Number one, well say throw out. Number two, we work with them. Ready . Tonight the republican chaos over Donald Trumps immigration mess. Who knew that it would be donald trump to come off and convert the gop base. And what happens if trump doesnt build the wall . Were gonna come after him, personally. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. On a day when all eyes were on Hillary Clinton and her much anticipated speech about the racist elements of trump coalition, donald trump tried to get out ahead with a kind of prebuttal speech which was foreshadowed last night with these words. Hillary clinton is a biggot who sees people of color only as votes. Not as human beings worthy of a better future. For days now, trump has been appearing before overwhelmingly white audiences and pitching African American outreach. Tod today, in anticipation of Hillary Clintons remarks, he defended his campaign against charges that they are the racists. The news reports are that Hillary Clinton is going to try to accuse this campaign and all of you and the millions of decent americans at record levels. There has never been anything like this. This is a movement we have. And gonna accuse decent americans, who support this campaign, your campaign, of being racists, which were not. When democratic policies fail, they are left with only this one tired argument. Youre racist, youre racist, youre racist. They keep saying it. Youre racist. She lies. And she smears. And she paints decent americans, you, as racists. The people of this country, who want their laws enforced and respected respected by all and who want their borders secured, are not racists. To Hillary Clinton and her donors, and advisers, pushing her to spread smears and her lies about decent people, i have three words. I want you to remember these three words. Shame on you. Less than an hour later in reno, nevada, Hillary Clinton delivered a calm, almost prosecute yorial speech, highlighting his birtherism, his comments about mexicans and muslims. Hed ban muslims from around the world from entering our country, just because of their religion. Think about that for a minute. How would that actually work . So people landing in u. S. Airports would line up to get their passports stamped, just like they do now. But in trumps america, when they step up to the counter, the immigration officer would ask every Single Person what is your religion . And then what . What if someone says im a christian, but the agent doesnt believe him. Do they have to prove it . How would they do that . Under donald trump, america would distinguish itself as the only country in the world to impose a religious test at the border. Now come to think of it, there actually may be one other place that does that, the socalled islamic state. The territory that isis controls. Clinton reserved her greatest condemnation for the people trump has chosen to associate himself with, and what the associations say about him and his campaign. Its also what happens when you listen to the radio host alex jones, who claims that 9 11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs. He even said and this really just is so disgusting. He even said the victims of the sandy hook massacre were child actors, and no one was actually killed there. But trump doesnt challenge these lies. He actually went on jones show and said your reputation is amazing, i will not let you down. And the latest shakeup was designed to, quote, let trump be trump. So to do that, he hired stephen bannon. The head of a rightwing website called breitbart. Com, as the campaigns ceo. Breitbart embraces ideas on the extremist fringe of the conservative right. This is not conservativism as we have known it. This is not republicanism as we have known it. These are racist ideas, racebaiting ideas, and antimuslim, antiimmigrant, antiwomen, all key tenets making up the altright. On david dukes radio show the other day, the mood was jubilant. We appear to have taken over the republican party, one white supremacist said. Duke laughed. No, theres still more work to do, he replied. Hillary clinton made it clear exactly who trump is associating with, whatever label they may call themselves. So no one should have any illusions about whats really going on here. The names may have changed. Racists now call themselves racialists. White supremacists call themselves White Nationalists. The paranoid fringe now calls itself altright but the hate burns just as bright. Joining me now, cornell, let me start with you. This was a tactical decision to make this speech. How do you understand the decision to make this speech politically, why elevate these elements in the trump coalition, who is this targeted at . I dont often give a lot of praise in politics. But i gotta tell you, lets get in the weeds here of strategy. This is brilliant by the Clinton Campaign. It does two things. One, today, at a time when donald trump is trying to pivot and move away from like last Years Campaign didnt exist and move away from the racism and the language that hes been using thats alienated moderate voters, Hillary Clinton, you were right, she was a prosecutor today. She made him own his racism. She made him tie his racism around his neck and is not allowing him to easily pivot and move away from his racism. The second thing that she did was brilliant and also important here, she defined him as a unique transcendent kind of danger to our democracy. This is not republicanism. So to those moderate, middle of the road and you see it, the College Educated republicans who are pulling back from him, she gave a clarion call to him. This is not republicanism. This is a unique threat and you cannot allow this. Brilliant strategy on their part. Mckay, youre nodding your head in agreement. Theres always this question, do you see hes the apoth yosises of the modern american republican party. But politically, that seems like thats part of what this is about. I think that is the master stroke of this strategy and the strategy weve seen democrats, the pitch theyve been making since the convention. It reminds me of 1964, what lbj did with goldwater, ran that ad, saying, ive always been a republican, this guy just seems different somehow. Dangerous. Yeah, hes radically scary. And that is exactly the pitch shes making. In that speech, she praised john mccain for calling out some of the more radical rightwingers and what they had been saying about obama. Praising george w. Bush for going to a mosque after 9 11 and saying that muslims loved america, she was making a pitch to all the suburban Republican Voters who cant associate themselves with donald trump. Also, mckay, there was a moment where shes just reading out breitbart headlines. And these are unbelievably offensive, because they are meant to be. Right. I just had this moment, where its like, right, exactly. In a normal political world, the reason why the head of breitbart doesnt get hired for a Political Campaign is precisely because you now own every headli headline written on the website as part of your campaign. Absolutely. There was this idea that he could operate outside of normal partisan politics. And theyre trolling. Now donald trump has to answer for every single one, and thats continuing. Every story that breitbart runs, people are now reporters are emailing the Trump Campaign, saying, do you have comment . Does your campaign ceo agree with this latest insane attack that theyve made . Cornell, what do you think about this . The other side of this, which has been this, im not racist and theyre calling i think theyre calling all of you racist, the prebuttal speech that trump has been using to kind of deal with this. And the i know you are, but what am i, youre a biggot response. Its good strategy on their part. I dont think its going to be successful. But what you with want to do is muddy the waters. So that im a racist, shes a racist, were all racist, lets muddy the water and we can move on. But i think what the Clinton Campaign did today was in a really prosecutor kind of way, lay out the case and put meat on the bones of his racism for all those americans in a unique way. Again, to make the Trump Campaign own the breitbart stuff is brilliant on their part, but it was also a big mistake on the Trump Campaigns part to bring in this sort of extremism at the same time they were trying to pivot and say, were not racists. Thats whats so hes doing outreach and then the guy that hoists the Confederate Flag proud and addresses Barack Obamas relatives, saying, what were they doing . I dont think kenya had a dog in this fight. But theres also this question of, are you essentially elevating heres what im reminded of. 2009, right after the inauguration, Rush Limbaugh said, i hope the president of the United States failed. And the white house took the opportunity to go after him. And it was effective tactically, but of course youre also elevating someone that i think theres a real concern there. I think, though, realistically, this was probably a great day for breitbart and a great day for Hillary Clinton and a terrible day for donald trump. So maybe this helps clinton win the election. The question is, really, were talking about the battle for the rightwing of the party. Right . Is the rightwing about tea party conservativism . Small government conservativism . Or racism andina nativism . I think you give the altright more credibility. Heres donald trump being asked about his support from White Supremacists. Shes saying youre bringing a hate movement mainstream. Do you want White Supremacists to vote for you . Not at all. This is not about hate. Its about love. Its about love and who the real racist is. Its that point in the campaign. Its all about the love. Thank you both, gentlemen. Thank you. Still ahead, after building a campaign base, unappealing to angry and disenfranchised voters, how is that base reacting to Donald Trumps possibly changing language . But first, what is the altright . Ill talk to a journalist who began to target altright attacks, after this twominute break. My name is jamir dixon and im a locate and Mark Fieldman for pg e. Most people in the community recognize the blue trucks as pg e. My truck is something new. Its an 811 truck. When you call 811, i come out to your house and i mark out our gas lines and our electric lines to make sure that you dont hit them when youre digging. 811 is a free service. Im passionate about it because every time i go on the street i think about my own kids. Theyre the reason that i want to protect our community and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then ill drive it every day of the week. Together, were building a better california. Altright is short for alternative right. The wall street journal describes it as a loose but organized movement, mostly online, that rejects mainstream conservativism, promotes nationalism and views immigration and multi culturalism as threats to white identity. So the de facto merger between breitbart and the Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for this group. A fringe element that has effectively taken over the republican party. You follow the campaign closely, or you spend a lot of time on twitter or read it, theres a good chance youve encountered altright trolls smearing minority groups. Many of them read or write for breitbart news, whose chairman steve bannon is now in charge of the Trump Campaign as its ceo. We are the platform for the altright, bannon proudly told mother jones last month. In Hillary Clinton read a few headlines from the site. Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy. Would you rather your child had feminism or cancer . Gabby giffords, the guncontrol movements human shield. Hoist it high and proud, the Confederate Flag proclaims a glorious heritage. Just imagine donald trump reading that and thinking, this is what i need more of in my campaign. Breitbarts best known provocateur, the author of some of those headlines, pretty despicable guy, who was permanently barred from twitter in july, for instigating a campaign against lesley jones. Who starred in the ghost busters release. A month later the department of Homeland Security announced its investigating a hack of her website, where hackers posted personal information, including her passport, as well as explicit photos of her. Clinton sent jones a signed personal tweet, no one deserves this, least of all someone who brings us so much joy. Im with you, h. That i targeted jewish journalists. After writing a profile for gq, the reporter was threatened with antisemitic messages, invoking the holocaust, and prompting her to file a police report. The episode that you encountered was mentioned by secretary clinton. Take a listen. When trump was asked about antisemitic slurs and Death Threats coming from his supporters, he refused to condemn them. I think the key part here is, we are talking about people that run a range of views that are generally white supremacist or nazi in inclination. Antisemitic explicitly. But theres this pack hoard, trolling enterprise that they can engage in online, that can be just its massively disturbing. Its not like some thing remotely some people are writing. Theyre actually coming after you. Well, it in my case, and i think as was the case of a lot of journalists, not just jewish ones, you know, you get one tweet, then you get five tweets. Theres like a geometric element to it, where they just multiply and you turn away from your twitter feed and a moment later theres a hundred more of them, and a thousand of them. You just have to walk away or it takes over your whole life. In my case, it crossed over into reality. Someone posted my number, i was getting threatening phone calls. People saying i had ordered a coffin or homicide cleanup at my apartment. So it crossed into the realm of the more real, than maybe somebody sitting in their mothers basement, as the meme goes, and pounding out these tweets at me. I want to play this, because one of the questions today is the guilt by association. Steve bannon actually works for the campaign. Donald trump himself has retweeted the account White Genocide on numerous occasions. Heres trump asking about what happened to you. Take a listen. Some of your supporters have viciously attacked this woman, with antisemitic attacks, Death Threats. These people get so angry. Whats your message to these people when Something Like that happens . I havent read the article, but i heard it was very inaccurate. They shouldnt be doing that with wives. Melania is a top model. They sent pictures around to utah and it wasnt even but im talking about the Death Threats that have followed i dont know anything about that. You mean fans of mine . Supposed fans of yours, posting these i know nothing about it. Youll have to talk to them about it. But your message to the fans is . I dont have a message to the fans. This to me is key. From the beginning, theres been this cluster of people with very, very frankly vile and fringe views that donald trump has quite knowingly played essentially footsie with. These elements have existed for a long time, as Hillary Clinton mentioned in her speech. Different names, different manifestations, but there has always been a White Nationalist front. And one of their tactics was to show up and dare people to get rid of them. Sometimes, some of these same people would show up and infiltrate and then eventually wind up and leaders would denounce them. Trumps thing, he doesnt denounce anyone who supports him almost ever, with rare occasions when hes really pushed into it, like with david duke and the kkk and even then he was sort of waffling. It took him a long time. Right. So you end up with this situation, where whether its because he really wants the support of these people or agrees with them, obviously theres elements of his campaign that hook up with things they look. He doesnt like saying no to anyone whos saying nice things about him, ever. And you end up blindly retweeti retweeting things from White Supremacists. And the other thing thats key here, one of the really disturbing elements, having covered american politics for a decade or around there, you know, i have never encountered just sort of outright nazis much in covering american politics until this campaign, until dealing with this corner of the altright online trump world, where people have hitler mustaches and talk about ovens. I mean, the most vile views in the world, suddenly are just not that many degrees of separation from the nominee of the party. Well, and you have a situation. I found myself listening to secretary clintons speech and thinking, this is where weve come to, that the altright, these people who, i think for a long time, a lot of us journalists who received these attacks would say, like, oh, whatever. We dont know who these people are, how many of them they are, just some pathetic loser in his basement tweeting at me, who cares. But weve gotten to a point where the democratic president ial nominee has a whole speech addressed to them. Talk about going mainstream. Thats about as mainstream as it gets. Do you think i asked mckay this question. It is probably a good day for breitbart. I