Stars. Tonight a new low for the Trump Presidency after last nights victory for the resistance. Where the white house goes from here. They should have approved health care last night. But you cant have everything. And how collins, murkowski and john mccain may have saved obamacare. This is clearly a disappointing moment. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Reince priebus is out. Anthony scaramucci has ascended and the Trump Administration is reeling after one of the most dramatic votes in recent Senate History brought an end, at least for now, to the gops sevenyear effort to repeal obamacare. President trump announcing he is replacing Reince Priebus with john kelly. Reince is a good man. Failure legislative ly. I think when this wait a minute the plan, it seems pretty clear that there was a lot of build up. From the very beginning in this administration, people were fighting with Reince Priebus. There were a lot of reports in steve bannon and Reince Priebus getting along. And they came out on the record in new York Magazine to talk to me and pretend like they were best friends. Im glad you said pretend. They got me at the beginning of the interview. They said they had given back massages and texted each ooflt they did this whole show. I believe they also did this with the washington post. The massage they know was pretty
special, i felt. There has been a lot of conflict with Reince Priebus. Look, firing your Chief Of Staff after one of the most shocking and indeed humiliating defeats ive ever seen, last nights senate vote. What happened was really bad. What is striking to me is the humiliation factor. From early on, you said that trump has around him a cast mini trumps. And the Trump Organization is where everyone is trying to outtrump each other and in comes Anthony Scaramucci who seems the take it past any imagining. Exactly. The best donald trump impersonator in the world. Better than alec baldwin. Better than anyone. The reason he probably has a Bright Future is because he has
figured it out. He is also like him. When trump says he surrounds himself with the best people. He means people like himself. Reince priebus was never like him. He was added to this white house and given a prominent perch as a concession to the Republican Congress in an attempt to bridge the two worlds. You know, and youre right. Reince priebus was the one, or one of the people who told donald trump that he should go for health care first. And spend all of his Political Capital and his time coming into the white house on health care and it didnt work. He wasnt necessarily wrong to fire reince. My question Going Forward is is this new Chief Of Staff someone who doesnt know the republican
establishment. Is he going to make things better. Is he going to advance the legislative agenda . I dont know. It is not clear that it will fix it. The question, to his point, they were both connections, the actual institutional Republican Party, an organization to which he has a strained, come reply indicated alien relationship. He basically, he is the most important republican in the country. And yet the party itself and its agenda is a bit at odds length. There was a big question about, will this president take a new tact and try wedge the infrastructure . And he went down the line with the gop agenda. Does that change having gotten
rid of sean spicer and Reince Priebus . Possibly. They have fewer solid relationships to Establishment Republicans now. But donald trump doesnt have an ideology. His ideology is donald trump. He is very much influenced by the people he surrounds himself with. People with the tweets on friday, and over the weekend after he was hired. This is someone who has been all over the political map. So it is going to be interesting to see how kelly and how scaramucci and anyone else that he brings in, influence whats they bring this policywise. So far it has been the status quo, the republicans reporter reporter interests what what they believe. There is is a asaying about donald trump. The last person to talk to him is the one who wields the most influence. And there is a spectacle of
this humiliation. I think the president has a genuine talent for bringing out the worst in people. Those are things he is indisputably excellent at doing. To have priebus publicly, the detail of the wall street journal, we know from the reporting, he likes watching his aides fight each other. It is amusing to him. He looked askance at not firing back. Does that ring true to you . Absolutely. So many people who have worked for trump in his orbit have told me trump gleefully and deliberately fosters an atmosphere that one person describes as the hunger games. He wants them on bludgeon each a. He enjoys that. He does believe that it brings out the best outcome because he believes the best person will ultimately win. Just take stock of the fact donald trump, the day that the major Republican Legislative Initiative was on the vernal of passing or implodinmploding, he the verge of a knife fight. I dont think he is just trying to figure out who is the best. I think donald trump is easily bored. Thats a great point. How this country is functioning right now. He is entertained by chaos. When people stop entertaining,
he moves to the next one. And i think we can assess a lot of Whats Going On with the palace intrigue by looking at it like that. It is the apprentice west wing edition. Last night he is mad that his Attorney General couldnt get it over the top. Ive never seen anything like it. It was pulled off like a heist where Mitch Mcconnell will sneak in and crack the vault and get health care out before anyone can catch them. Presenting the plan or saying why it was good, the president had no obvious interest in, nor understanding of what was happening at a policy level. He was picking a fight with his Attorney General who he clearly
wants to fire. And egging on a knife fight between aides. This is what he was doing in the most monumental day in the fate of the domestic policy agenda of the party in which he was the head. He is stuck in the white house, he is someone who likes familiar surroundings. He would fly hole at odd hours to sleep in his own bed. He probably misses new york, im speculating. That seems likely. And i think he is is just looking for ways to keep himself occupied. People reported that he didnt know the way through medicaid. He cannot act exactly the same way as he did on the campaign. Im sure he has a lot more people, even though he does say crazy things on twitter, he will affect morning show hosts for Plastic Surgery or other things. He is not quite at the level of Campaign Donald trump in that respect and i think it is making him look for other areas where he can be entertained. Theres also that we have not had thankfully, any major crises that this white house who is the negotiate but one has to think about what will happen when thats happen. Thank you both for your time tonight. Im joined now by the contributor author of one nation under trump. And as someone who has been writing about the structural name of the Republican Party as an entity in American Politics for several decades now, and about how unique it is and the
nature in which it has gone off the rails. Do you think theres a connection between the kind of chaos that weve seen Legisla Legislately and what were seeing in the white house . Im sure there is. It provided the ground work for trump to emerge. This attack on government at least since Newt Gingrich came to washington. You have a Republican Party not really focused on solving problems but on trying to manage its way through with a large group of radicals and no moderates to speak of anymore. I keep coming back, governed by the least compensate among us. The more congress is unable to do anything. Both ryan and mcconnell failing
at passing things on to trump in what they homed was they would have a president who would sign anything put in front of them. If they cant put anything in front, theyll be under attack and trump will go after them as well. It occurred to me last night, i was a watching the Health Care Debate under fold chflt i found remarkable for a number of reasons. It came down to a moment in which a bunch of republican senators which said the bill before us is a disaster and a fraud. Were going to vote for it. As long as you froms bill doesnt become law. And i thought do you know what that is . They miss barack obama. They all miss voting for stuff the president coveto. They miss playing legislator as opposed to actually being one and this is them attempting to role play back in time where they can pass things that wont become law. The you saw, theyre not ready to actually legislate. That was just bizarre. Equally disarrest was the president going to twitter saying, yes, please, i agree. Pass something that you dont want to be enacted into law. We woke up a deeply divided party. For seven sea, republicans have promised this. Members of congress are going to hear it. To norms point, we have been divided in different variations for a decade. Now it is trump world versus will tea party and there is no place for senate right republicans. What we saw last night was the inability of this president , a republican president , to lead the party and lead to nation on one the of most Critical Issues we face and one he had promised to reform. I want to press on the nature of that failure. The only way donald trump can win in a republican primary, i remember watching debates. These are govern whos theyre quite different than. There would be Planned Parenthood defunding and everyone could tell with you tremendous detail the ins and outs of defunding Planned Parenthood. Donald trump could not do that but the voters chose someone who didnt have that. So it seems to me to come back around. Last night was the product of the choices being made by a base that dont really seem to care in some deep sense about governing. Absolutely i grease. I think what you had was a Republican Party. It goes back in this case to when obamacare became president. Using a set of themes that it is all corrupt, its all awful. Trump comes along and says what have you got to lose . Well blow things up. And you have people this congress who were not prepared. Unlike anyone who has to interest in developing policy. Quickly, theres some talk the president will pivot against gop congress and run against them. Do you think thats likely . Absolutely. Your conservative base will blame ryan and mcconnell as being rinos. Priebus and spicer, the other Establishment Republicans. This president s only path forward is to go back to what he knows. All right. Thank you both for joining me. Well have much more on todays shakeup next. 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It seems from people around the president , he blames paul ryan and Reince Priebus and probably blames people like and you other folks in congress for the failure of herring. It is not his fault. He always says they. Theyve been trying to do it for seven years. He hasnt been trying. Do you think it is their fault . Ive spoken to the president about this today. He tweeted as well about where he puts the blame of three republicans and 48 democrats in his opinion. And i had a conversation days ago with a senator. I asked, and he said yes. I wasnt terribly surprised by what happened. I was told that it was going to go a little bit different. Senator mccain changed his vote after that. So you thought wait a minute. You were told they had the votes. I was under the impression that they had the votes. And i didnt think it was going to be much more than a 51, a Tie Breaking Vote by the Vice President. I wasnt expecting it to go down by one. And whether youre a conservative senator or a moderate senator, they were trying to move the process along. This obviously wasnt what the large majority of Congressional Republicans wanted to see get done as the final product. The president talking about how Police Officers treat suspects who have now been convicted of a crime but presumed to be innocent. When you see the thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see they will
being thrown rough. I said please dont be too nice. Like when you guys put somebody in the car and youre protecting their head. The way you put their hand. I said you can take hand away. Do you support the president s call for Police Brutality . No. I would say the president is coming the an area where we have people who, i have my own constituents, the high Profile Murder of 453 a ms13 that brought a. G. Sessions to them. Two were in congressman kings district. They were murdered by machetes. The nature of what we are going through right now is tearing apart families. Those crimes are indisputably horrible. Anyone who sees them will be. But is it okay even in the
context of that to engage in illegal criminal activity, assault or Police Brutality . Just finishing the thought, to answer that question is while it is deeply emotional, Whats Going On, it is very important for our Law Enforcement to be following their rules, the laws, people are innocent until proven guilty. We have a process here in our country to ensure that people have a hearing, the right to counsel. What is interesting. With ms13, we have people who are illegal on many different fronts and that whole issue is highly charged. But is the best practice of all of our Law Enforcement to be following local rules and regulations and understanding. Had this is what they said. Was it appropriate for the president to say that . No. I definitely have a different style than the president. But was it appropriate . To tell Police Officers to engage in brutality . No. I dont, i cant agree with that. Was it appropriate for the Police Officers on stage to applaud . I didnt know i was going to be here to referee this one sentence of the speech. They really got into a whole lot of really important issues. Huge freddy gray is, right . Sure. His spine was snapped and he died in the back of a police van. Possibly because he was treated roughly. And you can see how if his family saw the president of the United States made a joke about prisoners being treated roughly and seeing Police Officers applaud, you can understand how that would be hurtful, right . Sure. There are a lot of people who watched this speech who live in my area who are very pleased that the president is taking the
aggressive approach that he is on combatting ms13. They lost their son as a result of an attack with a machete. So the key point is there is a difference between one and the other. What seems important is someone who is a lawmaker, someone who is a president and enforcing the law, is to understand that the engaging in protecting people from ms13, and prosecuting crimes, does not necessitate the Police Engaging in extra judicial violence. That seems like an important line to establish. One doesnt have anything to do with the other because were a nation of laws. I mean, it is one of those particular questions where it is kind of impossible to, you cant play devils advocate. And Law Enforcement has to follow their local regulations. They have to follow their laws and people are innocent until proven guilty. I would say that theres an
emotion that is felt when it is a i respect that. When there is a kill here just murdered someone with a machete that were going, not in this country legally and that goes on and were worried about making sure that they dont bang their head. But one of the reasons you set those standards is that you dont want anyone to take mat enters into their own hands and then you have a