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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes November 19, 2017

Keystone pipeline . The story behind these insane photos and the reality of the tax cut bill hitting a nerve. I really resent anybody saying that im just doing this for the rich. All in starts right now. Give me a break. Good evening from chicago. Im chris hayes. Tonight, the president of the United States stands accused of Sexual Misconduct by more than a dozen women over a period of decades. That fact has loomed over his administrations cautious response to the flood of revelations about abuse by powerful men, including, of course, allegations the republican candidate for u. S. Senate in alabama sexual assaulted teenage girls as an adult in his 30s. Last night after democratic senator al franken apologized to a woman who says he groped and forcibly kissed her a decade ago, releasing a photo of franken in a lewd pose while she was sleeping, the president could not resist taking a shot. The Al Frankenstein picture is really bad. Speaks 1,000 words. Where do his hands go in pictures two through six while she sleeps . To think just last week he was lecturing anyone who would listen about Sexual Harassment and respect for women. The white house was asked about those comments today. If its fair to investigate al franken and the allegation made by his accuser, is it also fair to investigate this president and the allegations of Sexual Misconduct made against him by more than a dozen women . Look, i think that this was covered pretty extensively during the campaign. We addressed that then. The American People i think spoke very loud and clear when they elected this president. How is this different . I think in one case specifically senator franken has admitted wrongdoing and the president hasnt. I think thats a very clear distinction. Well, for one thing, more of the American People voted for the president s opponent, but heres the other thing, the president has admitted to wrongdoing. He has, weve all heard it. He bragged to billy bush about getting away with exactly, precisely the kind of behavior franken is accused of and worse. You know, im automatically attracted to beautiful women. I just start kissing them, its like a magnet. I dont even wait. When youre a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Whatever you want. Grab them by the [ bleep ]. Then candidate trump dismissed those comments as, quote, locker room talk when that tape came out last year, insisting hed never done the acts that he so boasted about. At least 15 women have accused him on the record with their names of unwanted physical contact. Of kissing them. Of groping them and grabbing them by the you know what. Many of them spoke on camera about their experiences with this president. It was at that time where he turned to me and embraced me and gave me a kiss on the lips. And i remember being shocked and because i would have just thought to shake somebodys hand. When we entered the room, he grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission. I feel the little, you know, this little grab. Its like, you know, feeling like a little cheek lift almost. And i stand up really tall. Im shocked in a moment. And i turn around and look at him, and he doesnt look at me. He doesnt want to make eye contact with me. He then walked up to me and reached his right arm and grabbed my right arm. Then his hand touched the right inside of my breast. He then grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast. I pushed his chest to put space between us and i said come on, man, get real. He repeated my words back to me, get real, as he began thrusting his genitals. The person on my right who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump put their hand up my skirt. He did touch my vagina through my underwear. Absolutely. Somehow or another, the arm rest in the seat disappeared and it was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me. When he started putting his hand up my skirt and thats was it. He pushed me up against the wall and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again. And i had to physically say, what are you doing . Stop it it was a shocking thing to have him do this. Im automatically attracted to beautiful women. I just start kissing them. Its like a magnet. You just kiss. I dont even wait. When youre a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Whatever you want. Grab them by the [ bleep ]. Besides bragging about putting his hands on women without their consent, the president has also boasted about exploiting his former role as a beauty pageant owner to leer at women in their underwear. Ill go backstage before a show and everyones getting dressed and ready and Everything Else and, you know, no men are anywhere. Im allowed to go in because im the owner of the pageant and therefore im inspecting it. Right, right. Youre like a doctor. Is everyone okay . Theyre standing there with no clothes. Everybody okay . You see these incredible looking women. So i sort of get away with things like that. I get away with things like that. Five former ms. Teen usa contestants, teen usa told buzzfeed that trump did, in fact, walk in on them while they were changing. Competitors in that pageant, they are as young as 14 years old. Like roy moore, whose allies are pushing conspiracy theories to discredit his accusers, then candidate trump attacked the women who made those allegations against him, calling them liars and saying they were not attractive enough to assault. The stories are total fiction. Theyre 100 made up. They never happened. I dont know who these people are. I look on television. I think its a disgusting thing. Some are doing it for probably a little fame. They get some free fame. Its a total setup. I was sitting with him on an airplane. And he went after me on the plane. Yeah, im going to go after believe me, she would not be my first choice, that i can tell you. One of the president s accusers, former apprentice contestant summer zervos, has since sued President Trump for defamation because he called her a liar and the president s lawyers have been fighting a subpoena filed in september for all documents related to allegations of assault or misconduct. A judge in new york could decide by the end of the year whether the case against the president can move forward. Joy reid is my colleague here at msnbc and my friend and the host of a. M. Joy. Well, joy, were you surprised the president decided to throw that stone from the glass house in which he sits . You know, chris, i wish i could say i was surprised. I was kind of waiting for it. I had done a tweet in anticipation of it, just waiting for him to weigh in on al franken because donald trump cant help himself. He has no impulse control obviously. And because this is a democrat and he always relishes the opportunity to be able to accuse the other side of what he in fact has done. Absolutely. I didnt collude, you colluded. Russia didnt want me to win, they wanted you to win. Whatever it is that hes guilty of, maybe its something in his psychology, he cannot resist the opportunity to lash out at someone from the other side of the ideological aisle and say, no, no, no, you really did it. The thing that is so incredible im glad you played the entire clip. I literally was emailing my team, saying, what chris hayes just showed is so important in terms of showing all the women describing the behavior. The very thing hes attacking al franken for, gross behavior toward a woman, kissing her without her consent and then the jum joke, the photo afterwards, but the kissing part of it is exactly what donald trump was proud to tell another man that he gets to do. He actually was proud of the fact that he gets to abuse women physically and grab them, do more than just kiss them. He says i just kiss them. I dont even wait. I just kiss them. Thats what al franken is accused of doing. Thats what hes accusing al franken of doing and saying al franken should pay for it with his job. Donald trump is accused 15 times of sexual assault. Hes being sued because he called one of those victims a liar. He is a proud sexual assaulter of women. Hes not ashamed, hes proud of it. Why is he in a position to keep his job if he and his supporters think al franken should not . They cannot answer that question, all they can do is cry i dont know, whatever. They think theyre crying hypocrisy but theyre the hypocrites. At least al franken apologized. One of the things that was so perverse this morning was Sarah Huckabee sanders saying hes admitted and the president denies it, which flips everything around. Like, lie and deny and say it never happened and attack the women, that is what you should do. If you admit it, then youre inviting more scrutiny. But, of course, that is precisely, precisely the playbook that is happening in alabama with roy moore. To the last bit. And i want to play this for you because what happened we all remember you and i were covering it together, right . We were there a year ago and all of these republicans rushed to the camera and saying, oh, i am just so upset about this. Congressman chaffetz saying, you know, i cant look my daughter in the eyes. I cant look her in the eyes. Im so upset about this. Of course then voted for donald trump. Thats exactly what theyre doing in alabama. Here is the governor of alabama who said i believe the women, i believe what theyre saying is true, im going to vote for roy moore anyway. Take a listen. I believe in the Republican Party and what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a republican in the United States senate to vote on the things Like Supreme Court justices, other appointments that the senate has to confirm and make major decisions. And so thats what i plan to do, is vote for the republican nominee roy moore. I mean, thats saying if you say i believe the women yep. Who have said this about roy moore and im voting for roy moore, what youre saying is, i want a child molester seriously, thats what youre saying, i want a child molester to represent alabama in the senate. This is what happens when party becomes almost a religion. When its child molester is having a child molester on the floor of the United States senate is better than having a democrat. That they would rather have someone like donald trump who is a braggadocious assaulter of women, somebody who isnt even embarrassed about being a sexual assaulter, but better him than her. We have to have anything. We dont care how wicked, we dont care how much of a liar, we dont care how corrupt, we dont care what he is. This is what republicans have essentially told us about donald trump from the beginning. We dont care how low he takes this country, how low he takes this party, what a scoundrel he is, a scam artist, a conman. And literally, it can be a child molester, as long as its a republican. We will accept anything. We dont care how it damages the reputation of our party and our country. Nothing comes before party. Nothing. Ever. The one thing you cant say about democrats is that. Democrats threw Anthony Weiner over the side like they just met him. Democrats, i mean, theyre ready to throw bill clinton over the side 17 years later. But republicans have created a religion out of partisan affiliation and it doesnt matter what a republican has done as long as theres an r after his name and hes willing to vote through tax cuts for the rich, they dont care who he is. Thats a sad thing to say about your party. All right. Joy reid, always great to have you. Thank you. Thank you. A columnist with the washington post, francesca chambers, White House Correspondent for the daily mail. Kathryn, at one point, kellyanne convey, i think, referred to the allegations against the president as old news. I wanted to yell at my tv set like that doesnt matter. Its all old news. All of this is old news. Thats the whole point of whats going on here. Nothing has ever been properly resolved. So it doesnt you dont get to say its old news. Of course you dont get to say its old news. Just because an election happened, just because, you know, Sarah Huckabee sanders says, well, the people have spoken. We already had an election and they have ruled. That is not in any way similar to having a full investigation, to having an indictment. If you really want to go down that road, to having any sort of jury trial, right . There is a reason why when there are criminal charges that are alleged, when there are victims who claim they have been assaulted, the way we resolve those claims is not by having a political election, right . Its been having an investigation. Thats how american jurisprudence works. Francesca, you cover the white house and sit in that Briefing Room and im curious to get your perspective on how much you think the white house sweats this. And the context here, it was interesting to me that Sarah Huckabee sanders yesterday wanted to have nothing to do with the franken story. Because i think the people around the president realized how exposed they are, even if the president doesnt. Whats your sense sitting in that room . Well, i think you make an interesting point. Even if the president doesnt. Because he obviously opened himself up to this comparison by tweeting about al franken when he did, which is seemingly why the white house didnt want to get too involved in the roy moore situation because the president has also been accused of sexually harassing women. What was problematic for the white house today was when Sarah Huckabee sanders was asked whats the difference between the two, she didnt say the difference is that the president didnt do it and al franken has said hes sorry because he did do it, she said the difference is that al franken has apologized and the president has not admitted to wrongdoing. And so i think that was a problematic thats a great point. Answer for this white house and thats why youre seeing that answer go around pretty aggressively. Thats also thats also very consistent, by the way, with pretty much everything that donald trump has done wrong. His philosophy seems to be if you admit no wrongdoing, no wrong has been done, right . If you admit no mistake, no mistake has been made, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence such as being on tape. So this is not something we should be terribly surprised by sanders saying in that press conference. Francesca, thats a great point. I want to hang a lantern on that point. Sarah Huckabee Sanders doesnt say because he didnt do these things. She said in the past that these women arent telling the truth. She called them liars, yes. But today when she was asked about it, very first question, straight out of the gate in the briefing, it was we addressed this aggressively during the campaign. There was an election as katherine pointed to and the American People decided. And also the difference is senator franken admitted to wrongdoing and the president did not. That was where she took these allegations. Another point id like to make, chris, about todays briefing along the same exact lines was she claimed the president has weighed in on roy moore, but that is not accurate. Nonsense. What happened during the trip, because i was on this trip, the president was asked about him, and said, look, im in asia, im not watching television, im not looped into this sort of thing. He said sarah made a statement on this on my behalf and that, you know, if the things he says are true, then hell do if the things people are saying about him are true, then hell do the right thing. Thats all the president said about this. When sarah said yesterday and today that the president has weighed in on this matter, the president has not weighed in on this matter. In fact, hes dodged questions about this on capitol hill and at the white house the entire week since he got back from asia. Katherine, do you think it matters still, these allegations against the president , in the way that our politics function and the perception of him and in the ways that i think women particularly but citizens in general think about how they relate to this white house and whether they want to see this president in power . God, i hope they still matter. You know who i would like to ask a question of . Its not Sarah Huckabee sanders. I dont believe that shes ever going to flip and say, you know, maybe we should believe those women. We should be asking people like mitch mcconnell, why do you believe the accusers against roy moore and yet, you know, you dont apparently believe the accusers against President Trump. You get those kinds of questions in front of influential people, you get them to respond and these questions will absolutely matter to the american public. Yeah. And were going to post well post that montage that we played at the top of the show, which our the all in Production Team did an incredible job on. That was not me, that was them. People should watch that. One of the things happening in this moment is we are hearing a pattern to allegations with men. And there is an m. O. Often. Weve seen that with the allegations against roy moore and you hear them in the allegations against donald trump. You should watch those and think to yourselves, does that sound credible that all of these people who dont know each other report the same experience. Thanks to you both. Next, the breaking news in the russian backdoor overture and the remarkable consistency with which Jared Kushner just forgets details crucial to the russia investigation, even under penalty of perjury. What weve now learned in just two minutes. Toddlers wont stop. And neither will lower back pain. Because at a dr. 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