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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes August 9, 2019

Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. President Trump Campaigned on two distinct sets of promises. There was a group of people he was going to help and a group of people he was going to hurt. And by and large, he has kept the latter set of promises. We see it every day. He has relentlessly demonized and insulted immigrants, hispanics, african americans, muslims, and just generally people who live in cities. He has produced a climate that many view is a direct predicate for the acts of violence and harassment weve seen like the 22 dead in el paso as just one of many examples. He is also, and this is important, crucially followed through on policy. He tried and ultimately succeeded in instituting the travel ban on people from predominantly muslim countries. He separated 2,000 children from their parents at the border. And after a judge told him not to, he separated 900 more. He has kept people, including children in cages for weeks with no shower, no toothbrush. At least 24 immigrants have died in i. C. E. Custody during trumps administration. And this number doesnt include five children who died in the custody of other federal agencies. Now who are two new cruelties. Yesterday i. C. E. Agents raided seven work sites in mississippi, arresting 680 people they say are undocumented immigrants. The raid conducted just days after a gunman targeted hispanic shoppers in an El Paso Walmart is the largest raid in any single state in american history. And those 680 arrests left hundreds of terrified American Children alone to wonder if they would ever see their parents again. Meanwhile, the Trump Administration deported a detroit resident to iraq, even though he had never been there before. Jimmy al daoud came to the u. S. When he was 6 months old legally. He was american in every conceivable way. He is a man who is a member of a persecuted Christian Group in the middle east. I. C. E. Said he had at least 20 convictions but friends say he also suffered from schizophrenia and other Mental Health issues. I was sleeping on the street, taking diabetic shots, throwing up, trying to get something to eat. I was kicked in the back several days to get off the guys property. I was sleeping on the ground. I begged him. I said i dont understand the language, you know. Now that man that you just saw is dead because apparently he was unable to get insulin in baghdad to treat his diabetes. So my question is this. How do any of those things help the people trump said he would help . Who is made better by it . Those kids trying for their parents in mississippi, the traumatized children, theyre american citizens. The president is hurting those americans. A dead man on the streets of baghdad who is lonely and scared and sick. Whose life did that make better in america . Whose job did that bring back . Whose income rose because of that . Who no longer has to deal with the ravages of opioid addiction in their family because that man is dead on the streets of baghdad . Because those kids are wailing because they dont know if theyll ever see their parents again . The answer is no one. And thats the fundamental con at the heart of donald trump. He says im going to hurt these people and hurt you. He can deliver on the first part but he has done just about nothing on the ekd. There are hundreds of people at a closed mine in wyoming sitting around with no paycheck. Were in the second week of the miners in Harlan County not legaling the trains through because theyre owed back pay they say. And the people in morristown, ohio who trump told not to sell their homes had their factory shut down. And farmers are struggling with unplanted fields having to make out on trumps welfare handouts. The Economic Growth trump is so happy to out the has disproportionately happened in the same areas it was already happening before, in large metropolitan areas among people who had already participated from the boom and has helped those who are already reaping the benefits. In fact, there is one group of people trump did say he would go after where he has broken that promise, and that is the titans of Corporate America and the globalist elites because the banks are running wild and Corporate America got a trillion dollar tax cut. For the owners, well apparently get, this the people who own the chicken plants in mississippi who it raided who employed all the unauthorized immigrants, they were not arrested. I. C. E. Wont comment. How could they be arrested . Donald trump has been doing the same thing at his own businesses for years, exploiting immigrant labor. In fact, the 680 people detained in mississippi was the largest such raid since 389 people arrested in 2008. And the own thief plant was subsequently convicted of moneylaundering. But President Trump commuted his sentence in 2017. Thats the deal. You in lordstown, youre not going to get to keep your job, but instead youre going get real acts of savage cruelty against some struggling families in mississippi while trump stuffs fat cats full of cash and parties with them in the hamptons. Meanwhile, the great hollowing out of the industrial core and Rural America and the declining life expectancies for the First Time Since world war ii, the 70,000 people were losing every year to opioids, all that will go on. Buzz trump and his party and his donors could not care less about that. Look over here at the people hurting. Thats all youre going to get. Joining me now cory booker of new jersey. He is a 2020 president ial candidate. He called out trump yesterday for n a speak for quote, weaponizing. Why did you feel the need to give that speech in what did you want to do with a that speech . First of all, this is a little off script. What you were saying was one of the best expositions against this president. He is hurting the people he promised to help. It was brill beyond and im grateful for you laying it so plain. And my speech yesterday at emanuel ame was a really important location to talk about what were seeing in america right now is the fact that since 9 11, the majority of our terrorist attacks have been right wing extremist groups. The majority of them have been white supremacist groups, and this violent White Supremacy has been a part of our culture to the tune of killing thousands and thousands of people, beating folks, burning buildings, burning churches. This is a long history. In fact, emanuel ame generations ago was burnt to the ground. And when blacks were forbidden to gather and congregate. I wanted to talk directly to confront the disneyland history that we often tell. Yeah. Where we actually diminish the greatness of this country when we dont speak to what we had to overcome to get to where we are. And right now we need that spirit more than ever to combat the ills of violence and White Supremacy. You know, people, there has been this sort of strange to me a little bitumin any news cycle about is the president a racist or a white supremacist. Im not sure where you come down on that. Youre shaking your head. Why are you shaking your head . Well, i said in my speech yesterday, this impotent simplicity of asking who is racist or who is white supremacist, it is distracting from what the deep question is which is does racism and White Supremacy exist . And if it does exist, then the question, the most important question is are you doing something about it or are you not . Because king said so eloquently that what we have to repent for in this day and age is not just the vitriolic words and violent actions of the bad people, but the appalling silence and inaction of the good people. If racism exists in our society, its not enough to say im not a racist. You must be antiracist. Youve got to get off the sidelines. Because if there is injustice in this country, its a threat to all of us. And you must be an activist against it. Thats a much more constructive question. If this is an ill that exists in our society, as an act of patriotism, what are you doing actively to deal with this crisis. This the moral urgency here seems very clear, and its been channeled by you and others i think in the face of what we see in the last week. Im going to ask a political question that i dont want to seem glibly amoral. But because you are running for president , i think its an important one. Do you worry that these sorts of questions about the sort of existential nature of america as a multiracial democracy and who is american, that the debate on those fundamentally end up playing on trumps terms or putting the emphasis where he wants to put them and not on, say, the coal miners out of a job in harlan, kentucky, et cetera. Look, i am getting tired of political positioning and analysis because i think it distracts from what americans are upset about, that there is no larger sense of moral urgency. Lets worry less as a party about the politics and Start Talking to the people, talking to the hurt, addressing the challenges that we have. Trump is brilliant at trying to distract us to make it all about him, what he said, what he is doing. Yeah, thats important. But lets not let us distract from i think the urgencies of coal miners, of people out in farm country, of people in inner cities who are just looking for leaders that will speak with plain moral clarity about the challenges and the issues that are going on, the larger systemic problems. Its why i criticize folks all the time to making this all about donald trump. And i know the number one polling issue in our party is who can beat donald trump. And im like, god, cant we have bigger aspirations than that . Beating donald trump should be the floor, but its not the ceiling. It should be gets us out of the valley but it doesnt get us to the mountaintop which is dealing with these trends, as you and i have talked about before, that have now been going on for a generation that we have to address with more of a sense of urgency, moral clarity and the kind of leaders that can inspire us to come together across the lines that often divide us to create real american change. And youll find that we have a lot more when it comes to that. We have a lot for that we agree upon than we disagree on. Do you think that there are sort of two schools of thought on the country. There is one that its deeply structurally polarized, and you have to sort of understand that and see that in a cleareyed sense. And weve seen that in the last midterms where dems picked up 40 seats in the house and they lost a bunch of senate seats in conservative states. And there are others who see that structural polarization as essentially a little bit of misleading. It sounds like youre in the second camp. I definitely am in the second camp. You know, and you and i both know, if you talk through that political lens, republican, do you support obamacare . Heck no. Well, do you support making sure people have insurance even if they have a preexisting condition . Yeah, well i support that. Do you support people staying on your Health Insurance until theyre 20. When you breck it down, they support all the constituent parts. Thats because we see a Republican Party that is trying to hold on to power by doing everything from Voter Suppression to trying to tell these tired tropes to scare people away from whats in their best interest. The best leaders ive seen through our history are those that are able to cut through that sort of spark a larger moral imagination amongst people that are outside of these lines. Thats why i keep telling people that we as democrats shouldnt be just simply saying, okay, the end we want to is beat republicans. No. I think the bigger end we should talk to is about uniting americans and the larger urgencies of justice in our country. I think that kind of leader, that can inspire that or those kind of leaders, because this is not a oneperson game, those kinds of leaders are going to help us get back on track and deal with these issues. All right. Senator cory booker, thank you so much for making time tonight. Thank you very much. Joining mow now is an immigration attorney, and he is a family friend of jimmy al daoud, the lifelong american who was deported to iraq. First i want to express my condolences for the familys loss. Thank you. How did this happen . Well, as you stated earlier, jimmy came into the United States at the age of 6 months old. He was born in greece to iraqi refugee parents. They fled religious and ethnic persecution in iraq and found their way to greece. They were christians . They were christians, correct. And members of the caldean ethnic minority group. They found their way to greece. Thats where jimmy was born. About six months after his birth, they came to the United States. The only thing that separates jimmy from me as a citizen who was born in the United States and you is about six months of his life. Just to be clear, he came legally. The parents came as legal refugees, correct . Thats correct. They were granted refugee status, and they arrived here in that manner. I. C. E. Says, look, hes got all these convictions. He did 17 months i think at some point for breaking and entering, that he has a long rap sheet. And so sorry, too bad, you broke the law. If you look at jimmys convictions and his criminal history, theyre all related to his Mental Health issues. Jimmy has been a bipolar schizophrenic, paranoid schizophrenic. He suffered from severe depression and severe anxiety. And these problems have plagued him and troubled him for his entire life. They are the root cause for every single one of his criminal convictions. If you look at some of the convictions. One was Home Invasion for breaking into a neighbors garage and stealing his tools. An assault conviction was related to an incident with his father when jimmy was having a manic episode. This goes deeper than that. Its not only a failing of the immigration system and cruelty shown by i. C. E. , but its also a failure for this country how we deal with people that have Mental Health issues. So jimmys case is really unique and its really sad in the sense that this man is now gone in a cruel and unusual fashion. Am i correct . The christian sect, version of catholicism, caldean group of believers, christian believers from iraq, that there was an actual i. C. E. Raid of that subcommunity in detroit in 2017 that picked jimmy up the first time . Thats correct. There are 1400 iraqi nationals around the country with final orders of removal. And in june of 2017, i. C. E. Raided and did a mass raid and focused specifically on the caldean community in destroyed under the pretext that they would be able to deport these individuals to iraq. Iraq had not been accepting deportations from the United States for decades, since prior to the first gulf war in 1990. This was done without warning, and it was done as a it was part of a negotiation that the Administration Made with the Iraqi Government to take them off of the travel ban list. And so you could also say that jimmys death is a result of a side effect of the travel ban. They put them on the travel ban, the first iteration. And a negotiation with Iraqi Government says well take you off the travel ban that flows from the president wanting to ban all billion muslims if you start accepting deportations. And then they go round up a bunch of folks who are predominantly persecuted christian minority from iraq to send them back to iraq. That is absolutely correct. In 2016, our secretary of state john kerry declared what happened to the christians in iraq at the hands of isis was a gen genocide. So our government for the past two years has spent millions of dollars trying to deport people to a country where their fellow caldeans had just been victims of genocide. The christian population in that country is almost zero at this point. The last estimate is that it was under 200,000, and thats from a high of 1. 5 million before the u. S. Invasion in 2003. At this point, the estimates are under 200,000. And i would guess its probably even lower than that. Jimmy is is in a unique situation in that he was never even born in iraq. He had never stepped foot in the country. He had no knowledge of arabic. He spoke english and a little bit of aramaic, which is the caldean language. He had no way to communicate with anyone in that country, and that is, again, another factor that led to his death. Again, im just so sorry what happened to jimmy. Deepest condolences to his family. Thank you. And thank you for telling his story. Thank you, chris. Next, the man who insists that the scourge of White Supremacy in america is a hoax Just Announced a longstanding vacation. How trump tv is handling the growing Tucker Carlson backlash, in two minutes. Termites. 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