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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes September 22, 2019

Youre telling me that major auto makers are scared of the president . Because donald trump is threatened. Our special report on a climate in crisis. So when it rains around the country, it pours here. The glacier height was of the height of the mountain. And because of that theres no jobs. This is a special edition of all in climate in crisis. Good evening from washington, d. C. , im chris hayes. Today the crisis of Climate Change became the biggest story on the face of the planet. It was enormous day of protests across the globe. Millions of people participating in coordinated actions in more than 150 countries. In australia the biggest protest in years, organizers saying more than 300,000 people poured into the streets. In london a massive turn out as well. Protesters blocking Roads Around Parliament for hours. In johannesburg an activist calling on the south african government and in afghanistan a march led by brave young and women flanked by armed guards and in bangkok, in lapaz, protesters tying themselves to trees as wildfires rage across bolivia. This was shot by a 15yearold climate activist, this one by a researcher and musician in islamabad, and in the u. S. There were protests in more than 1,000 locations including right here in washington, d. C. At least one protest in every state of the union. Hundreds of thousands marching the streets of new york and san francisco, philadelphia, boston and all across the land. Tonight we have a special report. We have reporters standing by across the country and beyond with updates and breaking news on the state of the climate, the effort to get the world to act and the attempts by the Trump Administration to block that action. Here in washington, d. C. Site of day two of climate reform we spoke to 11 president ial Candidates Plus one republican who says its time for his party to join the fight. And weve come to washington, d. C. Because the one place on this entire planet where we have the greatest chance to do something to avoid the most catastrophic effects of global Climate Change is in that building behind me, and the one down the street at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. This is the capitol city of the most powerful country in the world. It is ground zero for the struggle were engaged in and right now there are reports that that building and the one down the street are failing us. The breaking story being reported tonight. The story that the Trump Administration has determined that Climate Change played a role in driving the record migrations from guatemala to the u. S. Recently and rather than acting on it, decided to ignore its own internal report and even cut off aid to that Central American nation. Jacob, tell us about the story you and julia broke earlier today. Reporter chris, the Trump Administration had in hand evidence presented to them by customs and border protection, cbp, in which they collected data that indicated very clearly that Climate Change caused hunger, food and security, acute food and security, starvation basically was causing migration to the United States. 100,000 plus people have left guatemala over the course of the last couple of years, the largest country from Central America to the southern border and instead of take that evidence and double down on foreign aid here, the Trump Administration suspended foreign aid that would help mitigate what was going on down here in guatemala and put that money towards an approach on stemming migration. Youve been down there reporting on how the climate has been affecting guatemalans. What have you learned down there . Its a dire, dire situation, chris. People are literally starving to death and that is why theyre leaving. Theyre not leaving to go get a job or some sort of life or future in the United States that the president has talked about. People are leaving because theyre looking to save their lives and their familys lives. Honestly seeing it is something i never expected to see. Its something i hope the president sees and i want everybody to see it. Take a look. We started here in Guatemala City, leaving early to follow our guides from the World Food Program on a journey deep into the country. But we didnt have to go far to see the hardship the climate has brought here. Im a couple miles outside Guatemala City and here with Columbia University and World Food Program and theyre studying how the Climate Change affects Small Farmers in places like this and how that contributes to migration to the United States. We started talking to a small former who showed up to sell bananas. You know at least 100 people that left to the United States . No less than 100 people. Most are hard hit by a drought and plantkilling fungus. He said hes barely surviving by telling bananas instead. Its a crisis but hes using bananas as a backup. Reporter but not everyone has a backup plan. We carried on to chicky mullah and four hours later to a town only reachable with a four wheel drive. You can tell paved roads ended here. The World Food Program brought us here because last year five kids in the village died from starvation brought on by climateinduced crop failure. Many of their parents left for the United States as a last resort. Now in an emergency response, the u. N. Is holding kids at a school. This guy took us to a coffee plant that would normally be as good as cash but today are worthless because of a fungus spreading rapidly due to Climate Change. Translator this is a fungus, the consequence of drought in guatemala. Before there were really goodpaying jobs. Reporter the Climate Crisis here hit just what they were before previously because of global competition. Can you survive in that amount of money . Not possible. Reporter so people are leaving. A few miles down the road we met this woman, who now lives alone. Where is your family . Translator they migrated to the United States. My husband and my daughters. Reporter when did they go . Translator four months ago. With this drought, theres no work and they migrated after four years of water crisis. Reporter theres been four years of a water crisis and because of that, theres no jobs. Later that afternoon we began the bumpy journey out. Theres a lot of talk about the humanitarian crisis at the southern border of the United States but the reality is the conditions, the real humanitarian crisis is here. Yes, all tied together. Lack of opportunity, no credit, no insurance. Just think about starting into agriculture entrepreneurship without all of the safety nets every other country in the world would have. Reporter we headed towards our next stop, an even dryer part of the country, zacapa. The following morning made our way to another village where crops and people who tend to them were also struggling. This is the reality a lot of Small Farmers deal with out here. No only Pay Attention for rattlesnakes but you can drive as far as you can get and then you have to hike. This is elizabeth. We made it to her farm. Shes showing us what she grows here or more accurately whats not growing here anymore. [ speaking Foreign Language ] this is corn. Obviously, this corn is dead. Translator that was a watermelon. Reporter this was a watermelon and this is what happens when watermelon doesnt have enough water. This type of situation, whats happening to her and her crops is what youre trying to avoid. Correct. Reporter ho are you doing it . With the new seasonal forecast system tell them exactly how much water they will get throughout the year so they can adjust their agriculture calendar to avoid failing of crops. Reporter while the search for longterm solutions continues, desperate farmers here are returning to their last resort. Your daughter who is 16 went by herself to philadelphia to make a good life. What did she tell you about the United States when she crossed . She felt really happy. Reporter this is elizabeths house. Everywhere inside there are reminders her daughter left behind. This butterfly, this was done by her daughter in the u. S. She shows the other drawings too. What is it like to see them, i asked her. She says, i feel sad. A familiar story to the tens of thousands of guatemalans leaving on roads just like this to the United States. Chris, i dont think i can be any clearer, the president of the United States, at least the Trump Administration had in hand exactly a year ago a report that described to that administration exactly what i saw on the ground here, that people are starving to death leaving for the United States as a result of that and starvation is exacerbated by Climate Change happening on the ground here. Instead of fixing that situation, they totally pulled funding from usda and other u. S. Organizations here. What are the u. N. Or any ngos or anyone doing to try to make sure these folks have some kind of recourse, some kind of safety net . Well, the u. N. Specifically, the World Food Program who took us out, does not rely on funding from the United States government but there are plenty other of organizations who do and i talked to a source on the ground today in Guatemala City who said that money has already been pulled from these organizations so they have to rely on money that does come from the u. S. Government, for example the climatologist Just Announced the next gem program for a seasonal forecasting system. They cannot rely and dont rely on United States funds and for the time being, thats how its going to be. Jacob, that was an incredible, incredible piece of reporting. Thank you very much for that. That was really great. Meanwhile we also found out this week the Trump Administration is trying to actively sabotage efforts by the state of california and major automakers to raise standards for emissions. With that jo is reporting from glendale, california. Reporter hey, chris, were in california where there are more cars sold in this state than any other. And thats why the state of california, along with 23 other states, is bringing a new lawsuit brought today against the Trump Administration because they want to win back their right to set their own Greenhouse Gas emissions standards. Because california often sets the tone for the rest of the nation, this could soon impact production lines across the country. This is maryvale, ohio, inside this plant about the size of 39 walmarts, honda new york america is manufacturing hybrid electric vehicles around the clock. What is the demand like on this car right now . This is great. Sales is doubled from two years ago. Reporter this is the hybrid edition of the accord, one of hondas bestselling cards and it is at the center of a nasty highstakes political battle so we suited up in their safety gear to see whats on the line. In july can honda, along with ford, volkswagen and bmw voluntarily struck a deal with the state of california to meet stricter tail pipe emission standards. Climate change is real and we have to address it through improving the fuel economy of our products and through transitioning the fuels our products use from gasoline to electricity. Reporter the goal of the deal, increase fuel efficiency to nearly 51 miles a gallon by model year 2026. 13 other states are following suit. By contrast, the Trump Administration wants to drive in the opposite direction and roll back obamaera standards to 37 miles a gallon. Does it feel like customers want that, that increased fuel efficiency . Absolutely. Fuel efficiency translates to the customer for reduced energy costs for driving their car. Reporter to avoid making two different cars for california and the white house before automakers apply the stricter standard to all vehicles sold nationwide and the fact these automakers want to regulate themselves has trump furious. Do you think President Trump is taking this emissions issue personally . Yeah, i think its all personal for him. Reporter California Governor Gavin Newsom said his state has the right to set clean air standards. They can lay out clean air rules that are tougher than the federal government. The president tweeted california will squeeze companies to a point of business ruin. Whats your response to that . Ask bill ford. Ask the folks at vw and honda, ask in a privacy in the offtherecord conversation the vast majority of the other automobile manufacturers. 17 representing 97 of the market that wrote a public letter to donald trump and to me saying compromise on this. We dont want to abandon the obamaera rules. Reporter undeterred Trumps Justice Department turned up the heat in august, suddenly launching an inquiry into the four automakers for antitrust. The Justice Department confirmed the antitrust letters were sent but wouldnt comment on the ongoing investigation. Its honestly laughable. Theyre desperate. These four companies voluntarily agree to Higher Standards and they are somehow claiming they have no right to voluntarily agree to Higher Standards. Reporter so you think its a doj investigation into antitrust regarding this . Purely political, pure politics and its disgraceful politics. And unless he can get them to back off on the voluntary agreements, then theyre going to go with the Higher Standards. Trump will lose. Theres no way out for him. So he has to beat them down. What a pathetic state of affairs. Reporter newsome believes the economy depends on making these cars to survive. These domestic Car Manufacturers will get crushed unless theyre able to compete on the international market. That is why this is a jobs killer and innovation killer. Reporter it had a Chilling Effect on mercedesbenz, which reportedly wanted to join the agreement but recently backed out. Youre telling me major automakers are scared of the president here . Not one but two. And companies were about to be public in support of our voluntary agreement. Reporter and theyre not because because donald trump threatened them. Reporter just days after i sat down with the governor, californias new emission requirements facing another setback when the Trump Administration stripped california of the ability to set their own emission standards. No state has the authority to opt out of the nations rules, and no state has a right to impose its policies on everybody else in our whole country. Reporter Governor Newsom doubling down on his states goal. It begs the question, mr. Trump, what and who is this for . The companies, the automobile manufacturers dont want it. Its about the oil industry period, full stop. Its not about the Car Manufacturers. Its not about consumers. Its not about the health. Its not about our economy. Its about oil companies. Reporter honda says its staying the course. It plans to roll out new hybrid versions of all of its cars in the coming year. I want to know, does honda ever feel caught in the middle . Does the company feel caught in any sort of crossfire here . We know what we need to do as a company to meet our part of the Global Responsibility to reduce co2 emissions. Reporter its full steam ahead. Full steam ahead. Reporter now the other three automakers that have signed up for the california deal voluntarily have also not indicated they plan to change any of their production plans, at least yet. Chris . Jo, youve been reporting this story for a while. Im curious if you have seen the effects of the announcement of the antitrust investigation, which is a serious thing and strikes me carmakers are scared about that. What does your reporting suggest . Reporter theres certainly a Chilling Effect when we do talk to these companies. Theyre very concerned about what the Trump Administration might do or say, what the president may tweet as an xfactor and by the way, this lawsuit that came down today from the state of california, this is probably going to go all the way. The state of california had a pretty good record with federal judges when it comes to fighting the Trump Administration but the administration is telling us the desire for uniform admission standards across the country may actually have some legs. Chris, this is probably or maybe going to the supreme court. Jo ling kent, great work. Thank you very much. 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