G7 summit at the trump resort in dural. This is as about a direct and profound a violation of the emoluments clause as one could create. Plus senator Tammy Duckworth on the president s head spinning concession to turkey. Its really a great day for civilization. Remembering the life and legacy of congressman Elijah Cummings. When were dancing with theayles the question will be asked in 2019 what do we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact . When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Having been caught redhanded secretly attempting to abuse the office for personal gain the president has pivoted back to his own mode of operating which openly abusing the office for personal gain. One day after the house delivered President Trump an enormous rebuke for his feckless response to the invasion of northeast syria pie the turkish government, the same turkish government his bag man, Rudy Giuliani, appears to have been working for in some way, and on the day one of the key figures of the corrupt ukraine scheme, the s of the impeachment inquiry appeared for a deposition, donald trump sent his acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to speak to the press apparently to do two things. One to announce the world a new Impeachable Offense which is that the president of the United States will be requiring the United States federal government and Foreign Governments around the world to give him money. President trump will be hosting the g7 at his own dural resort in miami next year. Dureal is not a place trump licenses. He owns it. All the money that goes into the dureal goes into the Trump Organization and ultimately into trumps pockett. On its face its a direction violation of the constitution. There will be incalpable amounts of roll of publicity for the event. And the other thing mick mull von adecid vainy decided to do was go ahead and admit the president is clearly coercing a foreign leader right after ukrainian president asks for military assistance to help his currently occupied country President Trump immediately says i would like you to do us a favor, though. The quid and the quo are basically cuddled up next to each other in that conversation as tight as can be. Thats already there. We also have an incredible amount of evidence just floating around it was a quid pro quo. The u. S. Chief of mission for ukraine wrote a text saying, quote, i think its crazy to with hold Security Assistance for help with a political campaign. But remember the line from everyone has been no quid pro quo. Mick mulvaney came out to say actually yes, quid pro quo. With the demand for an investigation into the democrats was part of the reason he wanted to with hold funding to ukraine. Look back to what happened in 2016 that is absolutely appropriate. Get over it. Theres going to be political influence in foreign policy. I was involved with the process pie which the money was held up temporarily. Okay, three issues for that. The corruption in the country, whether or not other countries were participating in support of ukraine and whether or not they were cooperating in an Ongoing Investigation with our department of justice. Thats completely legitimate. Lets be clear here, thats not how you do diplomacy. In fact after Mick Mulvaney said that in front of the cameras and whole world, a Senior Justice Department told nbc news, quote, if the white house was withholding aid from ukraine without any regard to the justice department, that is news to us. Second of all, the claim that the quid pro quo was only about that insane rabbit hole Conspiracy Theory about the dnc hacking itself and framing russia, is also implausible because the president know he wanted two things. He wanted to investigate the bidens again. You dont have to look far. Its all in the call notes that the white house itself released. The hairsplitting mulvaney is doing here doesnt pass the smell test, and third of all again no, this is not how it works. This is how a corrupt administration works. That press conference apparently detonated like a bomb in the middle of the deposition of this guy, our good friend Gordon Sondland, the ambassador to the european union. He was allegedly consulting with Rudy Giuliani. He had no expertise in ukraine. He got his job likely because he gave a Million Dollars to the Trump Inaugural Committee and hes also currently embroiled in his own separate scandal including over 33,000 on wooden household furniture and over 2,000 on a congressional remodel. Thats a tax scandal Public Officials resign over, textbook. Sondland today came before the house committee. He just finished his deposition less than an hour ago nearly ten hours before the investigating committees. In his Opening Statement the president said Rudy Giuliani told he wanted ukraine to investigate both the 2016 election and the bidens. Whatever sondland tried to say to get himself off the hook there are already a lot of other people saying hes the core of this entire corrupt and lawless enterprise. He is also the guy Gordon Sondland after the meeting with ukrainian officials took them to a room to talk about the biden investigation. We know that because biden so suspicious she heard them talking about the Ukrainian Company hunter was a part of. He told that aide to Tell White House lawyers and i quote, i am not part of whatever drug deal sondland and mulvaney are cooking up. Joining me now one of the Congress People who was in the room for Gordon Sondlands deposition today, a member of both the house intelligence and judiciary committees. Congresswoman, how would you characterize the testimony of mr. Sondland today . Well, chris, its good to be here and first of all just to attribute to our friend and colleague Elijah Cummings, i know youve been talking about him pretty much all day, but he was just a great man. And our thoughts and prayers go out to his family. What a time were having. You know, i used to serve in Law Enforcement. I spent 27 years there. I thought i was changing careers, but since yci have bee in congress ill tell you the work i have been charged with doing on the Intelligence Committee and through judiciary remind me quite a bit of the work i did as a police chief and a career Law Enforcement officer. Todays testimony as you said was long. And as you know i cant get into the details of it. But the ambassador wanted to be sure everybody understood that he willingly came into to appear before Congress Even though hed been basically ordered not to. But we know that ambassador sondlands name came up in the whistleblowers complaint tat the whistleblower and the i. G. Found to be credible and urgent. And so while we had a long day of testimony today, i do believe that the ambassador is very much intertwined in the impeachment inquiry that we are conducting and theres more to follow. Mick mulvaneys appearance today happened i think while youre deposition was happening. You have a background in Law Enforcement. Is it common for people to confess they did the thing in front of a microphone and cameras . Well, i think this president has proven and obviously those around him believe that if you break the law in public sight then somehow youre not breaking the law. Look, we have a president who has been engaged in lawless behavior time after time after time. And today mr. Mulvaney very boldly and as its been reported very brazenly admitted that the president has been engaged in lawless behavior. Its just every day they seem to top themselves. Do you feel and i know you cant speak about specific testimony, but my understanding of the theory of the investigating committees and leadership is that the call notes themselves constitute on their face a possible Impeachable Offense because of the coercion, because of the president s ask and the president maintains theres no quid pro quo. And the leadership feels no quid pro quo has to be demonstrated in order to reach a possible Impeachable Offense. Do you feel a quid pro quo . Leadership has said quid pro quo is not necessary. The president obviously when you read the read out report released by the white house that he obviously tried to coerce a foreign power into helping him politically. But lets look at mr. Mulvaneys very bold statement today. I think the president s chief of staff more than anyone has confirmed that there was indeed a quid pro quo. And it just amazes me that they would continue to deny that when the chief of staff has very boldly come out and said, oh, yes there was. Thank you so much for your time tonight. Joining me now are two people who have been following this scandal. And david jolly, former republican grzman from florida who left the guilty plea last year, now an msnbc political analyst. Im going to start with you on a political matter kp to you on legal. Harry, Mick Mulvaney tried very lamely to erase mind erase everyone who watched him say there was a quid pro quo with a statement saying he did want say the thing we all saw him say. But we heard from the president s legal team distancing themselves from the statements and the department of justice. Did he create legal problems with his admission today . Completely. I mean, think for a prosecutor we should emphasize its an impeachment inquiry and not a criminal trial, but what a gift if youre a prosecutor. Mr. Mulvaney, is it your testimony that one of the reasons that the exchange was made was in order to get dirt, you know, for the bidens, the thing he said get over it about . Yes. No further questions. Was it also within the jurisdiction of the its like an admission of a crime. An admission, by the way, is technically the term. He would be a coconspirator and it would be admissible. Look, this is really taking on a different character now. We have a charging document in the whistleblower complaint, and unlike with mueller you have witnesses coming forward either to do the right thing or to point at others and try to minimize their culpability. And every day congress is really putting substanchiation of the original charging document. As the member of the press said and no ones ever answered this, have you asked corruption in the context of getting dirt, corruption is just code word now for biden and burisma. Mick mulvaney kmds out to talk about the fact they were so concerned about the corruption they were holding up the money and also to announce the president has awarded himself a contract which as a beat reporter in chicago, if you were the mayor of rockford, illinois, and you get that you would be gone the next day. A quid pro quo is not required. The central Impeachable Offense was saying to the president of ukraine investigate the bidens. The only two americans donald trump mentioned on that phone call by name were hunter biden and joe biden. Well, Rudy Giuliani. But to your point, chris, i truly believe and whether or not its the downfall of the president or not, we are witnessing the weakest moment of his presidency. The president is going to be impeached and he knows it. Hes going to be impeached for abusing the office of the presidency to try to investigate his political opponent to benefit himself in the 2020 election. On top of that we saw in the last week the depravity of the man in a way that everybody understands with the syria decision. A man who out of his sheer haute and ignorance and depravity knew he would be allowing the world and allies he wouwho he would b protecting on the world stage. And on top of that he throws in plain language a third Impeachable Offense which is the emoluments clause. He is awarding himself a contract. That is the president of the United States awarding his own company a contract for foreign leaders to spends money for our own government agencies, the secret service and others to spend money on his own self as well. Harry, youve made this point before about how this is an impeachme impeachment inquiry and not a legal prosecution. People around this are constantly calling the lawyers. Bolton wants the nsc counsel to go about it. The department conducts an internal review. There are numerous break it appears the law is broken multiple times independent of the president as Impeachable Offenses. Yeah, look, its the modern government. Lawyers are everywhere. So when something funky begins collin the lawyers. And they did it here. And the warning signs were continual. And of course the main way they avoided it was by outsourcing it to o to Rudy Giuliani. Hoosa who said im here, dont listen to legal inquiries. Short of that i wish david was still in congress. Thats it and its in plain view. What are you going to say . The big question now is you said this week at this moment it feels like to me and to the people ive talked to and sources and people in the government or political observers, it always feels like hes unraveling. Trump unraveling headline 100 or 400 times in my life. The last two weeks do feel different to me. Do they feel different to you, david . They do. This is getting harder and harder for republican senators because theyre terrified of what comes next. Look at the people around them. Sondland has said, hey, i didnt do anything wrong. Mike pence wont answer the questions. Mike pompeo wont answer the questions if he was working with giuliani. Everybodys saying, hey, i didnt have anything to do with this because they know the president s guilty and so does every republican senator. Thank you gentlemen both. That was great. 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I want to bring in someone who knows more about trumps dural and other business and a pulitzer for his investigative work own the president. Lets start with the significance on dural unlike some other properties its not licensed. Its really directly part of the president s Main Business holdings, correct . Its basically the keystone of Donald Trumps entire hospitality golf hotel business. It produces more revenue for him every year can than any hotel or golf course and he has one of the biggest loans on it. So its very levered. He owes people money on it . The original one was 125 million to deutsche bank. Its one of his biggest loans. You tweeted about how its doing and the vacancy rate typically in the summer. In 2017 only 38 of dural rooms were occupie