Defense which is not crazy to think because if you turn on trump tv every day, youll see them covering reopen the country and let us work protest all over the u. S. And so, you can understand why Governor Kemp would think there is some Great American awakening happening as he sees americans on his tv screen rise up to say lets get back out to work and sacrifice our bodies to the virus in pursuit of economic growth. Guess what . There is not. That is not where the American People are at at all. We live in an extremely polarized country where americans are split on just about everything. Everything except the need to take drastic precautions to stem the spread of the coronavirus. Polling by huff post shows despite the president s bluster and all the talk on trump tv the need to socially distance have been strikingly consistent over the past month. Look at the pink line. 36 of americans are very concerned that they or a Family Member will contract the virus. That line is almost the same as it was at the end of march. Now look at the navy blue line. 50 of americans are very concerned about the spread of coronavirus in the u. S. , also pretty consistent from a month ago. Now look at this, the orange line. 78 of all americans, that is democrats and republicans say state stayathome orders are currently the right decision. 78 . And in red, perhaps most significant, 86 of people are trying to stay home as much as possible. It is very hard to get 86 of americans to agree on anything, but they do agree on staying at home. They thought that four weeks ago and all most no one has changed their mind so despite the sustained proof begpaganda effo trump is trying to dance back and forth across the line and saying its time to reopen the economy and the cure cant be worse than the problem and walking back. The polls show people agree with the scientific and Public Health experts. That the brainwashing coming from trump tv is not working. This is the big american silent majority. So must come as a rude awakening for Governor Kemp yesterday a day after President Trump praised him as a kalebcapable m. The president told reporters he does not agree with the georgias governors plan to reopen the state and something tells me they know how to read a poll in the white house. The poll showing people want to stay home and want to beat the virus, they are scared about their loved ones, there are polls that show trumps reelection climb keeps getting steeper amid his disastrous response to this global pandemic. Recent polls show joe biden leading trump, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin a new poll found biden is beating trump with florida voters over 65 by ten points and might explain the tweet yesterday. And trumps negative ordinary people and the ownership class, Lieutenant Governor in texas may think there are more important things than living but shockingly, did you not want to infe infect other people. People are united on this. America is the country, what they have been doing across political spectrum, they have been sacrificing e nnormously f months or more to give our federal government, our leadership the time to get its act together and craft a plan and implement it so we all can have Something Like a normal life. And the president just keeps squandering that opportunity. Joining me for more on the state level efforts to stem the coronavirus nevada governor steve sisalack. The mayor of las vegas got a lot of attention for loudly proclaiming she can, that vegas is ready and shes ready for the people of vegas to be a control, an experiment. Its been interesting to me that as she has said that, people distance themselves and it doesnt seem to me that ts a prevailing attitude in your state. Where are people in your state on this . Well, the mayor does not speak for my office. First of all, thank you for having me on. The mayor does not speak for the state of nevada or citizens and there is no way i will allow the mayor to use our citizens or our workers as a petri dish, controlled group, guinea pig. Let me play for you simply not acceptable. Our cull linary front line im sorry, you cut out for a second. You were talking about the culinary union. Yeah. The culinary 226 is our big union on the strip. Thats the front end workers lost 11 of their members to this disease in las vegas. We lost 11 folks. Im going to do everything i can to protech our front line workers and citizens. Weve lost 190 people as of today and 4200 positives, chris, it would have been multiples of that if we didnt take precise action early. We closed the strip and class and we follow distance education and banned large groups and implemented and made the right moves and thats allowed us to keep the death count and positive we can continue on the stretch. Its interesting because some suggest the Business Class are pushing for the reopening which i thought why is this interview nbc news does with caesars was eye opening. Take a look at your policy and the pandemic more broadly. The governor is under enormous pressure but i agree with him 100 we have to put peoples lives, ahead of everything else. Having said that, i think of our industry, were a little different than other industries and companies that provide a specific product or specific service. I think what we deliver, we deliver experiences and we deliver lifelong memories but were not going to be comfortable doing it until were confident that this thing is moving in the right direction and we can open. Governor, this seems to be the obvious enlightened view here, which is that people have to feel safe and comfortable for a city like yours and an industry like the industry thats at the center of las vegas to come back. Youre absolutely right and tony did a great job of explaining how we feel and daily contact with the gaming indus y industry, they are not deciding to put profit over people. The most important thing is the people in our Community Whether its our citizens, our employees or visitors. There is no better place in the world to come for a great time than nevada whether reno or las vegas or lake tahoe, whatever you decide to do for conventions, for entertainment, for gaming, for shows, whatever it may be. Were not inviting you back today or tomorrow. Were just not ready. When we invite you back, well have a great time and it will be one of the safest places in the world to come to. That i can promise you. Is that given there is a lack of there is an 18page guideline from the cdc phase one, two and three and a lack of federal guidelines and plans. Are you arriving at a plan. The logistic l undertaking at a place like a casino in the face of this is a big technical challenge. Is that something that youre actively working on . We absolutely are actively working on it as we speak. Weve got various plans in place or issues in place, criteria. We need a downward trajectory. I look at certain things. I look at hobsizatispitalizatio ventilator use. I look at percent of positives versus tests that we get and i need a downward steady trajectory in that for 14 days. Were not there yet. Were at a plateau relying on scientific experts and medical experts to give me the information that i think we need to make the right decision and when we make that decision, when the time has come, that we can implement an opening. Its going to be slow and gradual. Its going to be phased in. Well open some businesses that dont have as much contact. Weve got our Governors Office of Economic Development or economic recovery to come up with a plan for various golf courses, various businesses. The plan to open a golf course is different than the plan you need to open a bar, which is going to be different than the plan to open a casino and those are what were analyzing now so well be ready when the time comes to slowly loosen it a bit and hopefully get people back to work and in the community and well be in much better shape. Were not there yet. Were looking forward to the day. Your chart showed a lot there. I challenge our state is better than the 86 . I probably got 90 to 95 of our folks are compiling with the directives. They are doing everything we ask them. They are practicing social distancing. They are avoiding large gatherings and staying home as much as possible. Thats a reason weve been able to flatten the curve and do so well here. All right. Governor steve sis lack. Thank you so much, sir. Joining me now cornell, democratic strategists and pollster and cornell, i got to say after going through this polling , it jives what is going on in the world. I saw a bicycle built for two with camo hats and i thought right on. This is not actually become some huge polarizing thing in American Life despite the attempts by both the president and allies to make it that. Actually, there is really markble unity and selfsacrifice that people have under taken in combatting this. I would say on the surface there is a lot of that, chris. I would say be cautious about saying that the brainwashing hasnt completely worked yet because when you get underneath the surface, there is real differences happening between democrats and republicans par c particularly around intensity around these issues broadly speaking there is not a great deal of difference on democrats and republicans around these issues, however, republicans now do see the economy as being more concerned about the economy than u. S. Health. Which is a big deal and also, when you look at restrictions, while you still do have a majority of republicans very much in line with the rest of air mer ka on america on restrictions, the intensity strongly favoring these restriction measures has been decreasing and its right around 35, 36 right now strongly favor that compared to where its well over 50 of democrats strongly favor these restrictions. So while fox is doing may not be broadly working on the surface, there is underlying things happening in the data where it certainly begins to soften with republicans and the cross pressure broadly around concerning about health and concerns about the economy are incredible cross pressure and i quite frankly dont know which way it will break as we see another 10, 15 million americans go on unemployment. Yeah, i mean, i think that obviously everyone, you know, the question about the question to this is i dont think there is anyone like awesome, were kareeming towards the great depression. The economic devastation here is ink inkakble. Its the federal governments job to kind of convey people through that period but it also strikes me that, you know, from a political standpoint, it is interesting to me that you have seen state after state republican and democratic governors see Approval Rating boosts who have been very clear eyed about fighting the virus. And you have not seen that really for the president of the United States who had a little bit of a bump and back to where he normally is and i think that speaks to the fact that people have a hard time trusting him on Something Like this. Well, it goes back to the point i think you and i have been back and forth over last couple years about is trumps base doesnt leave him. We did see a slight bump in his approval rally but chris, i would even argue that the one or two points that he got rallied, the crisis rally given any other sort of traditional president , you have gotten a larger rally around him. You look at a rally that obama got or bush got even around crisis, you dont see that. So were right back in at roughly, 46, 47 approval of his covid and the same approval of him overall and so its really problematic for him at the national level. Its baked in but i would also say caution and say this, chris, those republican governors, take the republican governor in south carolina, another state that hasnt necessarily shut down. His approval numbers are still fairly solid. And i got a feeling that Governor Kemps numbers in a month or two, i bet he wont suffer a great deal politically for opening up the state unless you see massive deaths but whats the other side of this . If you dont see massive deaths, you see employment drop. Right, thats the thing. It all depends on what happens in the world. Our politics are so bizarre for so long and i want to play this clip of the president speaking of bizarre politics that, you know, youve heard people around the president saying things like maybe its not a good idea to go out there and free style for 90 minutes a day about a matter of great Public Health. Today he came out and sort of just kind of brainstormed and speculated like maybe you can shine a uv light internally into your body or inject a disinfectant into your veins to cure the disease and maybe, dr. Birx we could test that. Take a listen to what he said today. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and i think you said that hasnt been checked but youre going to test it. Supposing you brought the light inside the body you can do through the skin or in some other way, and i think you said youre going to test that, too . Sounds interesting. Then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute and is there a way we can do Something Like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number on the lungs. It would be interesting to check that. Youre going to have to use medical doctors but it sounds interesting to me. All right, doctor, check out some uv light inside a person. I dont know, like how you would get the uv light inside them and some injections maybe of like a cleaner. Im sorry, call my naive, i think the American People are smarter than that. I really do. I think the polling shows that. Chris, i want to be with you, brother but as crazy as that sounds, his poll numbers will not move. They will not move. The same 46, 47 with him now, are going to continue to with him. That ts great. You and i, lets talk in a month. I honestly genuinely, i think its an open question and i think your take on this is valuable and i dont know. Im not sure if im sold on that. I think that people are seeing through it but maybe not. Ive been here before but i just cant believe the scale of the disaster were living through and its so upsetting i want to think there is some reality shining through. Cornell, thank you so much, man. You have faith and hope. Exactly. Ahead, why the hhs response to the once in a century pandemic is being led by a former dog breeder, people in charge of keeping america safe after this. In charge of keeping america safe after this you are concerned about keeping your customers, patients, and employees safe. Fastsigns understands. Helping you solve your communication challenges so you can run your organization smoothly is our commitment. With locallyowned Fastsigns Centers operating as essential businesses, were in this together. Trust us. Us kids are ready to take things into our own hands. Dont think so . Hold my pouch. Its more than just fast. It keeps all your devices running smoothly. 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So, hhs got rid of the guy heading up the department focused on Vaccine Development in the middle of a Novel Coronavirus outbreak. Were also learning today that back in january, hhs secretary alex aczar tapped his trusted aid to head up the departments day to day response. The aids name is Brian Harrison, thats him right there. He seems not to have much Public Health experience. Ill quote here, quote Brian Harrison joined the department of running a dog breeding business for six years. Five sources say some official the in the white house called him the dog breeder. Until 2018 he bred and sold australian laberdoodles, which are cute, they are a breed across a lab dorador and poodle. He is running the day to day federal government response to once in a century pandemic at hhs. Joining me is the former head of health and Human Services in the Obama Administration and also served as the governor of kansas prior to that. Secretary, you know, i want to stipulate up front that governing is very hard. Hhs a enormously sprawling agency and the pandemic is difficult and fighting it is difficult and challenged every government around the world. All of that said, what do you make of hhs response thus far . Well, i think its unfortunate. Alex aczar as secretary has actually been in the department for eight years and the Bush Administration he played some key roles. He knows the department. He knows the assets in the department. Ive been absolutely baffled by why we havent seen cdc front and center. Cdc is the epidemiologist of the world. They are the lead investigators. They should be mapping and tracing and tracking and teaching all the governors in the country how to do Contact Tracing and telling us what the patterns of disease are. We should hear from them every day and we really havent. Im thrilled that tony fauci is front and center. I have the privilege of working with tony during my five and a half years there and he again is the Gold Stan