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MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes October 17, 2020

Plus, why is the president continuing to brag about a very suspicious killing by Law Enforcement in Washington State and could control of the u. S. Senate hinge on the price of soybeans in iowa . Thank you very much. I dont think you answered my question. Whats the breakeven price for soybeans in iowa . You grew up on a farm, you should know this. I think you asked about corn, and it depends on what the input. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Happy friday, theres also going on politically. Theres 18 days to go until the election. Millions of people are voting. But it has never been more clear that we are now in a third spike in coronavirus cases in this country. Just looking at the graphs from the Coronavirus Tracking project, which we use here on all in in a lot, there are 60,000 new cases recorded in the United States just today. To give you a sense of that, they have not been this high since july 30th. That was back during that summer spike. And they are not that for from the record, the recordsetting 77,000 cases earlier this month in july. Also, 37,000 of those people have been hospitalized. And that number is, as you can see there in that blue chart, the third one, is increasingly headed in the wrong direction. And of course, the deaths follow all of that. 877 americans died from coronavirus just today. In a moment, were going to talk to some people in the front lines. Youre going to hear some headlines, and it is all going to sound madingly familiar. And looking at that first spike, if you bend over backwards to be charitable to all the policy makers involved. Democrat, republican, federal, local, you can say, look, this thing was novel and it was difficult and mistakes were made, but they were made under conditions of incredible duress. We certainly did not do very well as a country, there was incompetence at all levels, almost no testing, not enough policy makers heeded the warnings early enough to save enough lives and more leaders should have came forward to say, we messed that up badly. Then came the second spike. A second summer spike that no other country really had. I want to be clear about this. We were really alone here. And that second spike, the one that youre looking at right there, that was just really born of a concerted act of political denial, in which President Trump and sympathetic republican governors pushed to open states in contradiction of the guidelines by the president s own cdc, right . They had a checklist and just blew through it. And that produced, predictably, a spike that killed 100,000 americans. A summer event that was unlike anywhere else in the world. See us there . No one really had that. People had one spike. We had two by the time we headed into fall. And the absolute best that can be said of that summer spike is that they were in denial or subject to wishful thinking. Well, now here we are. Were going into the third spike and theres nothing left to say. Other than the president and the Republican Party supporting him are willfully getting people killed. They all know what theyre doing at this point. There are no more excuses. They just think american lives dont have much value. And while it probably does not meet the legal threshold for criminal behavior in a deep, visceral, moral sense, that is what it feels like. Fresh off his own bout of covid and his own cluster in the white house today the president s Reelection Campaign brought him to florida, where the goal was to woo back the Senior Citizens that have been turning against him in droves. Donald trump deployed his coronavirus lies at the most Vulnerable People in america, indoors with only a smattering of masks, telling them they are sacrificing themselves for the greater good. My message to american Seniors Today is one of optimism, confidence and hope. Your sacrifice has not been in vain. The light at the end of the tunnel is near. We are rounding the turn. I say that all the time. Some of the media doesnt like hearing it. If you are always rounding the turn, then things are not getting better. See how that works . Because here is what rounding the turn this time really looks like across america. 13 more deaths from covid19 in south dakota today, also where a Record Number of active cases on the new number of cases, the total number tops 31,000. And now lets take a look at the latest covid numbers here in indiana. And they are breaking records, unfortunately. State Health Leaders are reporting 1960 positive cases across the state. Thats the most weve had in one day, beating the previous record last friday. New wisconsin secretary for the department of Health Services says the state is in a crisis, responding to the coronavirus covid19 virus. Adding, quote, this is going to get worse before it gets better. Im carrying out a long tradition of republican politicians only seemingly able to understand a policy issue when it directly affects them, former new Jersey Governor Chris Christie who had a very serious case of coronavirus and was in intensive care for seven days after attending several maskless events with President Trump, came out today to say, i was wrong. Wear a mask. Within 24 hours, i went from feeling absolutely fine to being in the intensive care unit. It was a mistake. You know, i was led to believe that, you know, all the people that i was interacting with at the white house had been tested and it gave you a false sense of security. And it was a mistake. Huh. Theres a sense false of security at the white house that was a mistake that led to people getting sicked and being hospitalized and coming within inches of his life. Lets be clear, christie saying these basic truths is essentially a repudiation of donald trump, because thats where were at. In fact win noticed this. I dont know if you did. It was incredibly creepy to me and bizarre and heartless that one of the president s most loyal advisers, who almost definitely got covid from the president , was incommunicado in a hospital for a week and as far as i can tell not one person in the white house said a single thing publicly about him. Because to do so, to talk about the close adviser to the president , who is in the icu would be to acknowledge the seriousness of the virus. And to acknowledge the seriousness of the virus is to insult dear leader donald trump. But now as their electoral fortunes look more and more dismal, we are watching some republican officials start to create some distance between themselves and the president. But it is way, way, way too late for that. They have all brought this moment about together. And it is hard to come to any other conclusion that the deaths of tens of thousands of americans are on their hands. In one of the states where the coronavirus is again spiraling out of control is wisconsin. Today saw yet another record for new cases, for more from the front lines of this spike, im joined by dr. Paul casey, who serves as the medical director of the Emergency Department of belen health in green bay, wisconsin. And i know youre busy and i really appreciate you joining us tonight. Can you give us a sense of what youre seeing in your hospital . So not only in my hospital, but all hospitals in green bay and the surrounding counties, were seeing a marked rise in coronavirus cases. We didnt have a second wave. We are having our second wave now. We didnt have that. We had a very small first wave. It wasnt really that dramatic and we thought we dodged the bullet. Now, for the last three to four weeks, weve seen a dramatic rise in coronavirus cases that need to be admitted to the point that its straining every single local hospital. What is your bed capacity like in your icus and your ers and your provider capacity . So the problem is not our total bed capacity. Its covid bed capacity. Because you have to have a special type room called a negative pressure room to treat covid patients. So our problem is that were trying to do what we call coexist with covid and treat all the patient who is need routine health care, nonemergency, but needing surgeries like hip surgery, so unlike in the spring, we have not shut down. So we are already very busy, and if you throw today our covid census was close to 40. So our total bed capacity was 160. So 25 of our hospital is filled with covid patients. So that puts us a strain on everyone else who needs routine care. You had shared this chart with us to give us a sense of what these trend lines look in your hospital and in your area, where you can just see, its really exploding. When did you you know, one of the things thats been maddening about this is the sort of, you know, this latency between when the fuse gets lit and when testing or hospitals realize how bad it is. When did you and your colleagues start to realize what you had on your hands in your region there . So i first realized it in late september. I get a daily report concerning the number of patients that we have in the hospital with covid19. And i started to see that it had been running in the single digits. And i started noticing it rise i think it was the 24th of september, i plotted the numbers on that report, on that excel spreadsheet and created that graph. Thats when i said, my goodness, look at this. Were headed for trouble. And thats continued to rise at a very steep rate. There was a lot of, obviously, that first experience, that Front Line Health Care workers had in march and april particularly was really overwhelming and brutal. And i talked to a lot of doctors who felt like there was no real treatment protocol and seven months later, we have learned a lot. But its also the case that the treatment picture i think is not as good as maybe we were led to believe or as hopeful it might be at this point. Do you feel like you have, you know, welltested sort of datadriven empirically grounded treatment protocols that work . We actually are far better than we were in the spring. In the spring, we had nothing that had been tested. So we were using things that anecdotally could help coronavirus, particularly hydroxychloroquine and aazithromycin, because there was some in vitro, meaning in the test tube, indications that these medications could help covid. So early on, we were giving people those two treatments that were completely unproven. Since then, studies have come out absolutely disproving those meds for covid19. There have been a number of studies that show that there are three potentially useful treatments. One is dexamethasone, a very old steroid. There was a large trial done at Oxford University called a recovery trial that showed that there was benefit for patients with an oxygen requirement who needed to be in the hospital, so thats a proven treatment. The second is remdesivir. Thats an antiviral medication that also has some proven efficacy. And the third is more of an experimental treatment, convalescent plasma. Were using it on an emergency use authorization. We dont really know whether it works or not. Theoretically, it should work, because youre taking antibodies derived from patients who have had the coronavirus and putting them back into active covid patients. Those are our current three main treatments. And we should note that two of those were used on the president himself and the third a sort of synthetic form of it essentially was administered to the president in his personal treatment. Final question to you, i guess, is can you see the other side of this spike from where youre sitting right now . What are you girding yourself for in the days and weeks to come . So we have done local modeling in our community and we predict this current second wave will peak midnovember sp. So if you look at a bellshaped curve, that takes the entire wave out through christmas new years. Thats what were looking up against. Dr. Paul casey who is on the front lines in the green bay, wisconsin, area that has one of the worst outbreaks in the country at this point on a per capita basis and doing incredibly important work, thanks for taking a little bit of time to splexplain what you doing tonight. I appreciate it. Youre quite welcome. The third spike of coronavirus cases is spread across the country, probably the most diverse version of this weve seen. In utah, the number of hospitalized patients shattered previous records. Joining me now is the mayor of Salt Lake City, erin mendenhall. Great to have you on. Can you tell us what things look like in your part of the country. This is the most precarious situation weve been in with the pandemic since it started. Today was the highest case count for Salt Lake City and for our entire county where the majority of icu beds are for the entire state of utah. And one of our major hospitals just a few minutes ago announced that they breached their icu bed capacity at about 104 , which means that any additional beds now are basically overflow icu and surge staff that are working overtime on hours and its not sustainable. Do you have Surge Capacity at your disposal in that city there . You obviously have there are a lot of great doctors in that city and there are some great med school. Do you have the Surge Capacity to extend now as its breached . We have the capacity, but for how long . And how long can these skilled doctors, nurses, continue with these overtime hours and additional shifts. And to hear the doctor previously talking about this wave in other states, looking that it may continue into the Holiday Season and the new year, thats probably not sustainable. We do have three major hospitals in this area and patients in the icu beds kind of fluctuate among the three. So us being at capacity and over capacity definitely means that the other two are on the line and theyre working together to try to make every accommodation they can. And i imagine your hospitals like the hospitals in green bay, and unlike hospitals in april and march, are still functioning, you know, normally, rig right, that there are scheduled surgeries and care for other folks and theyre trying to do both of those things at the same time. You know, my own motherinlaw was scheduled for elective surgery on her spine next week. Those elective surgeries are canceled and some of them were able to be moved up to this week. But as you might know, our governor made a pretty dramatic shift in the way that we categorize risk and the restrictions in the state of utah, just on tuesday, the reality is most of the state didnt have a mask mandate and now many more do. Many people arent wearing the masks in the social situations, they wear it to work and then take it off to see friends and family. From the statewide governor perspective, do you think theres been sufficient message and policy sufficient to medicate the risk . Or do you think theyre chasing the reality . I think there has been consistent messaging. The policy has been difficult, as it has been across the country. Some of the politicization around mask wearing and around the need to restart the economy without restrictions is always part of the conversation and the context. The shift that weve just made to this covid transmission risk, which is databased instead of a politician like me having to ask the governor to shift our color code restrictions, its all databased now, which is transparent to the public, to our business owners, and its the Public Health officials who set to set out those thresholds and i think well be on course to better numbers if this works. Do you have Indoor Dining or bars open in your city . We do with the social distancing protocols and if they cant do those, theyre smaller operations, they arent able to operate. But uniquely, in utah and Salt Lake City, we have a lot of bars and restaurants despite what National Thoughts might be. Thats not where were seeing the spread. Its really with our 15 to 25yearolds in social settings outside of establishments. We have a 90 or so acceptance in use of masks when people walk into businesses in Salt Lake City, so pretty high mask utilization, but its backyards and barbecues and parties at peoples houses where were seeing that spread. Yeah, that, family gatherings and friend gatherings, indoor gatherings without masking has been a really driver of this this time around. Salt lake city mayor erin mendenhall, were wishing you all the bs and thanks for talking to us tonight. Thank you, chris. Next, if theres one major takeaway from the two candidate town halls last night, its that trump is boring and america is President Trump ov pretty much over it. What that means for his reelection, next. Means for his reelection, next. 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