If i win. Good morning and welcome to am joy. If he wins. Thats the theme of the Trump Campaign these days and in about an hour donald trump will give a speech in the historic gettysburg, pennsylvania, the site of Abraham Lincolns address. It will be a serious policy speech outlining trumps plan for his first 100 days as president if he wins. The speech comes after trump promised to keep us in suspense about whether hell accept the results of the election. Trump surrogates then spent the next two days trying to rationalize his f hiremarks. You were asking directly. You said, yes, of course, well respect the outcome of the debate. Why does that change after the debate . It doesnt change for me. What i said, willie, absent evidence of widespread voter fraud or irregularities or malfeasance, thats the conditions im giving. Thats what mr. Trump is saying. He has to take a look and see. Trumps comments about a rigged election have been sharply criticized by some republicans and lots of democrats including president obama. This is more than just the usual standard lie. That is dangerous. Because when you try to sow the seeds of doubt in peoples minds about the legitimacy of our elections, that undermines our democracy. Then youre doing the work of our adversaries for them. But trumps voters agree with him. A new Huffington Post udub survey finds th57 say. According to a surveymonkey poll survey, 45 republicans say they might not accept the Election Results if their candidate loses compared to 16 democrats. And, steve, im going to go to you because you have the disadvantage of not only being with us but being the only dude on the panel. Were going to marginalize and make you answer for donald trump. Its always nice to see you, my friend. Thank you. Lets start with the debate when Chris Wallace asked trump directly if hed accept the Election Results. Take a listen. Sir, this is a tradition in this country is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign, the loser concedes to the winner. Not necessarily saying youre going to be the loser or the winner but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. Are you saying youre not prepared now . What im saying is i will tell you at the time. I will keep you in suspense. Steve, why is your candidate doing that . Why is he throwing doubt as to the results of the election . Joy, listen. Ill be the first to concede. I didnt like the answer. I did like how he clarified the next day. Saying ill keep you in suspense makes it a game and its not game at all. I didnt like the answer. If there was a prize for it, i would concede he won the 12 rounds. Having said that he clarified the very next day. I think its unfair. A lot of shows do it. You just did. You play a clip from ohio where he was being funny. He then went on and gave a searsous quote. He said as always i will follow and abide all the rules and traditions of the many candidates who have come before me always, so he gave a very serious answer that, of course, if we lose clearly, but i dont expect that. Were hopeful and confident were going to win. If we lose, of course, we will accept that decision. I dont think theres a story. Crystal ball, everybodys face i would be gracious if she won at least one round. Is that what youre hearing . We all love steve here. Not sure if everyone believes this. This is just after the debate in the spin room because this is what she said. She went in a different direction. Do you remember bill gore in 2000 . Nobody says ahead of time that theyre going to contest the election. Al gore did. He conceded the election to george w. Bush and then he retracted his concession and went all the way to the supreme court. It was, you know, the d question of whether tore stop and recount. It sounds to me like what Kellyanne Conway is setting up as opposed to what steve said is the possibility of contesting the election in court. Yeah. I think she was trying to figure out some way to dig out of the massive hole that trump dug for himself. What was really incredible about the debate and the things he has been saying in his rallies over and over again, Chris Wallace gave him a second shot at that answer, basically, do you really want to go there . Is that what you really want to say . Trump said, yeah, im going to keep you in suspense. Whats so dangerous here, when you look at the polling, donald trump has a lot of power with his base. They want to believe him. Whether he completely changes the Republican Party on trade or convinces evangelicals that suddenly they dont care about your moral character but your supreme court, he has a lot of power. You see a lot of republicans saying they dont know if theyre going to accept the Election Results. Thats a scary thing. Hes already planted that and the damage is done in many ways. Not only do we have these ideas of the voters. People saying things like we want revolution and pitch forks in the streets if trump doesnt whip, you also have trump allies, not only roger saying people should watch certain communities and the polls but even russia who we understand to be amenable to a trump prez den circumstance claiming they want to send monitors to watch the elections. Three states have denied it, of the russians coming to watch our elections. How dangerous is thissome. Its incredibly dangerous. Lets not forget, hes talking about inner cities. The inner cities are going to steal the election. Whats that . Thats some dog whistle coded language. It makes it incredibly dangerous because when you tell people look. He said this at the rally most recently, but the last ten days, two weeks, hes been very clear about the election. Everythings rigged. Everythings rig. So when youre telling your voters, hey, this election is rigged, youre seth a hard kor base. They listen to him. He kind of does what he says. When you listen carefully, hes not talking about polling place irregularities. Of course, we should all watch. He specifically said that. We should all watch polling places. Both sides shouchltd thats why we have election judges. Of course there is chicanery at the polling places. I live in chicago where sadly thats the tradition. Make no mistake, im not saying that at all. When hes talking about a rigged election hes talking about a rigged system in washington, d. C. , a crony system that exists for its own benefit to the benefit of the media. Why is he specifically telling reporters to go to certain communities and watch polls . Polls should be watched everywhere. Not by the Republican Party. Theyre under a Consent Decree because theyve been caught in acts of voter intimidation. Ill read a little bit about this. A lawsuit brought by democrats, the rnc curbed the efforts to monitor and challenge the eligibility especially in the districts where the electorate could be a factor in the outcome. Rnc council ryder has talked about the restrigsstrictiorestr. I want to get jay in here. This is a way to drive the base out, get him to the bolls when he doesnt have the benefit of a huge Voter Organization like Hillary Clinton does. It gets them excited. Everyone will say when you look atz the election, enthusiasm numbers are the key demographic that you look at going into the actual voting day, right . How many are going to show up at the polls . How many are going to drive grandma to the polls or take care of the kids as you go to vote. That enthusiasm number is key here. Theres a reuters poll that came out yesterday that shows this poll is resonating with his base, its getting them enthused, riled up, and it will get them out to the polls come election day. My theory, this is his way of getting people to the polls. Thats an interesting point. At the same time getting people to the polls, no doubt about it. Youre seeing a lot, krystal, of the language trump is using. You have Speaker Paul Ryan who came out with a statement that interestingly enough didnt come from ryan itself. It came from his spokesperson, ashley strong, who said our democracy relies on confidence in Election Results. And john mccain said the follow. I didnt like the outcome of the election in 2011. Did so but not without reluctance. Its not just graciousness but an act of you have rchs really running way from this language. A couple of them. A few. Not a lot. Thats the thing to me. Okay, you stood by him when he was denigrating the minorities and disabled and veterans and women and now youre going to stand by him when he denigrates democracy. Ive been amazed. I thought for sure after the debate there would be another flood of republicans coming out to say, this is not my view. The problem is they cant do that. They set up this argument, this idea that weve got to have voter i. D. And restrict the vote because theres problems here and we have to add voter integrity. So when trump goes to the next step which he does and says outright the thing is rigged, of course, voters say hes speaking truth to power. Thats exactly what the Republican Party set their base up to believe. This is sort of just a continuation. You could argue the Republican Party has been a Successful Campaign for 50 years to denigrate the government. It used to be working for the man in the 1950s was considered something great, good, something to be proud of. Republicans say, no, working for the man is bad, equals excess and horrible things and this is just another way of undermining the system, that the system is wrong, broken, throw the whole thing out and move on, and thats what get by the way, on that score on that score, ill say guilty as charged. The system is wrong. We have a crony capitalist system in washington, d. C. Four of the five wealthiest counties in america are in the d. C. Area. What does that tell you . Ital is acting like the capital in the hunger games. Who controls it . Congress. And who controls congress . Republicans. Thats right. A lot of republicans are complicit in this. You mentioned prominent republicans who have said very critical things of mr. Trump during that campaign. I think ive spent more time arguing with prominent republicans than democrats. Thats because were the outsiders in this race. Republicans are not the outsiders in the race. They control the house and the United States senate and about 26 governorships. How can republicans simultaneously argue as other states attorney general have that they can simultaneously argue theres widespread voter fraud so we need to clamp down and make it harder for people to vote and the system is rigged but you should also trust the system if we win. When recalling i. D. , i think thats a red herring. I think its demeaning to make it hard to vote. Are you telling me if i a lot of people do not have the i. D. Thats needed to vote and its been made difficult for them. In some place in north carolina, they put the place where you get i. D. Far away which makes it difficult. If you cant buy beer without i. D. , you shouldnt be able to vote. Well have you back. Coming up, Donald Trumps bromance with Vladimir Putin and what it tells us about Hillary Clintons emails. Stay with us. 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They have hacked american websites, american accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to wikileaks for the purpose of putting it on the internet. This has come from the highest levels of the russian government, clearly from putin himself, in an effort as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed to influence our election. Jay newtonsmall is with me as is steve cortes and malcolm. Malcolm, i want to start with you. Good morning. Good morning. I just want to work out with you my own personal anxiety about these wikileaks documents. Im uncomfortable with them partly because of what you said many weeks ago on this show. Theres no way for us to know once a document comes that comes through the fsb, how much is authentic, how much of it is edited, weird, fachlkt since we dont really know, how much confidence can we have in the content . Well, you can have zero confidence. Actually it was july 27th that we made the pronunciation that when you hack information from your opponent, lets say your russian intelligence, what you want to do is get a stream of real information, but within that stream youre going have selectively edited or selectively timed releases of data which will make your opponent look bad. Some of that is real but within that stream of real theres always false documents. Weve already seen false documents edited by the fsb and trump supporters. You know, i want to play marco rubio, of course no fan of Hillary Clinton and hes only a new fan of donald trump, he talked a little bit about wikileaks and his own discomfort with it. Lets take a listen to marco rubio. I personally will not be talking about any revelations that come about solely as a result of wikileaks. Our intelligence officials who are not partisan people have told us this is the work of the foreign intelligence agency. What i would say to some of my colleagues, today its them. Tomorrow it could be us. Steve, do you share that discomfort . Right now its obvious that Julian Assange and russia desires to see donald trump as president. Its pretty clear. All of the hacks were of the democratic organizations or entities. Theres nothing that comes out thats negative to donald trump. Thats pretty clear. As marco rubio correctly pointed out, maybe Julian Assange wont get whatever he thinks he would get out of a Trump Administration and then he turns on your dream. Are you comfortable with being in bed with these particular leakers . No, osk, im never comfortable being in bed with hackers. Theyre criminals. One of the main reasons shes unfit is the fact she had a private email server that tens of thousands of emails have permanently disappeared by her deliberate actions and that tells me by the way of her susceptibility of being hacked that she put herself and by extension our National Security at enormous risk. So i dont think i need to go down the packet of the content of wikileaks. We know how reckless she was and this hacking risk is very real as we can see. You know whats interesting about what you just said, steve . Hillary clintons emails werent hacked. We know they were hacked. It seems that hillary carolina tonights private email server were safer than the government servers broken into. So its interesting to say we dont know. The fbi spent a year and a half investigating Hillary Clinton and they said very explicitly. I dont think jam comey is a Democratic Party. Hes a republican. They could find no evidence that her servers were hacked. Let me go to you on that, malcolm. It seems the only server that had any question in relation to the government was Hillary Clintons private email server. Right. And you can see the outlines of how russian intelligence agencies, their version of nsa, Russian Military intelligence of the kgb fsb as we call them now, how they didnt get into the server or allow targeting at the time to penetrate the serve. What theyve done is a circle of intercepts around her by people who would have access to the Key Information she would have communicated with. So they went to softer faster easier targets. Thats how we would do it if we were focusing on an individual like trying to get putins input on things. We would go to people who use email. So for the most part. Hillary doesnt have to actually be you know, actually have to get into her server to get information related to her as were seeing on these hacks. But then again this is a russian intelligence agency, targeting the United States in an active cyber warfare operation. And if you side with that. If you side with wikileaks. Thats what youre asking for. On the journalism front, we are in an awkward position. Its stolen documents, fruits of a theft. A foreign government. Adversary of the United States and yet the media is eagerly plowing through. Were eagerly reading through Hillary Clintons trash ultimately. Its sort of a its a very tough situation because on the one hand theres a long tradition of whistle blowing in the United States. Ive received documents from people on the hill and i know where the providence comes from. For example, Donald Trumps taxes were sent in a blarng envelope to the new york times, but we also make efforts to validate those documents before we run with them. Thats the danger here. I never ran with a document i never beforehand validated because i wanted to make sure what i leaked was correct and the d