For the fourth consecutive day of nationwide antitrump protests. And as we knew the end of final vote tallying were learning secretary of state Hillary Clinton may not may not have only won more votes than trump, a popular vote win on track to be 2 million votes or more. When all is said and done she may have won more votes than any president ial candidate in history besides one, president obama. On a Conference Call with supporters yesterday, clinton blamed fbi director james comey and his unprecedented letter to congress about what proved to be duplicate emails found during the Anthony Weiner investigation for stopping the momentum of her campaign. Meanwhile, with the reality of a Trump Administration setting in, Many Americans are angry. Many are afraid. Democrats want to see their leadership move forward by preparing to fight, but who will lead the charge . Just a few days after Hillary Clinton lost the president ial election and republicans solidified their grip on congress, several democrats are now vying to leave the party. In about five months the Democratic National committee will gather to elect a successor to the Current Interim chair Donna Brazill. So far onetime form er vermont governor has thrown his hat in the ring and twoterm governor of maryland Martin Omalley is also eyeing the role and tomorrow representative Keith Ellison of minnesota, the first muslim elected to congress, is expected to announce his run for the chairmanship and who is endorsing ellison . None other than former democratic candidate for president , senator Bernie Sanders. Joining me now joan wohl, of the nation, Karine Jeanpierre and e. J. Dion of why the right went wrong and strategist kr krystal ball. Lets start with the fact of the vote total. Its pretty stunning when you think of the fact that Hillary Clinton not only won more General Motors than donald trump which we knew the day after the election. Knew that was coming. The margin could be 22 million or more and in fact there wasnt a decrease in the overall turnout. This sort of narrative that people didnt like Hillary Clinton, didnt like donald trump and no one turned out. Its just not true. She got more votes than anybody but bill clinton and mitt romney who got shellacked in donald trump got more votes than donald trump. What does this say to you . This is a dividedcountry, and this is a country that put a lot of resources into a a Republican Party that put a lot of resources into Voter Suppression, and we know that were clustered on the coasts and our votes matter to us. All the antidemocratic forces built into our system including the fact that tiny rural states have two senators as well as new york and california. So this is just another one. Were coming up against it again, and it was so bitter and horrible when this happened to al gore. There is so much worse. Karine, it isnt just a matter of a divided country. Youre talking about a divided Democratic Party. A lot of what happened it looks like is that the clinton machine and the Democratic Party did turn out obama voters, but a lot of those obama voters in states like ohio, pennsylvania and michigan voted for donald trump. I think thats right. The other way that i like to say it is more people voted against donald trump than for donald trump, right. Thats another to lock at it. Or didnt talk about it at all. Look, the Democratic Party has a lot of soulsearching to do, absolutely. Need to look in the mirror and figure out what are we . Where are we going here . They need to figure out how do they get the those white rural voters in michigan, in wisconsin in, ohio, in pennsylvania while still continuing the gains of, you know, the latino vote, the africanamerican vote, the millenials, and in order to do that they need to do some deep diving and look into the data, figure out who are we, how do we go back and being to the party that we once were before but, you know, not forgetting that rising electorate. Krystal, is it about white rural voters who have been republican for 50 years and will be republican 50 years from now or working class voters who walked away from the Democratic Party in the nixon area and White College educated voters voted for donald trump and White College educated women voted for donald trump. This wasnt a loss because rural white voters turned up. A lot turned out, all trump voters, but you had actually people who were in what is seen tonight Democratic Coalition, College Educated white men and women. They voted for donald trump, too. Yeah. Well, weve got a lot of problems i think. Thats definitely one of them. We also lost more Union Members than weve lost in a long time, so i think the issue with blue collar white voters is a problem, too, but, you know, i love the way that karine put it. Weve got to figure out a way forward that includes all of these groups, right, and to me, to my mind the future of the Democratic Party looks like a Multiracial Coalition including working class black, white and brown voters. So as im looking at the future of the party, im looking at what leaders can bring that coalition together because cultural issues have been used brilliantly by the Republican Party to pull those white, rural and blue collar voters away from the Democratic Party, and weve let it happen because we havent offered a compelling Economic Vision that deals with the scale of the problems here. I mean, you know, i wrote in my piece about the fact that we have a massive Economic Transformation under way. And places like the rustbelt dont look like the past. They look like the future of this country if we dont get our act together. Truck driving is the number one job in 29 states, and its a job thats going to completely go away in the future due to technology and driverless trucks. What are we going to do and what are we going to offer in terms of bold radical thinking thats truly going to address that issue . And one last thing. You know, i dont want us to fixate over on the president ial election even though i understand why were doing that right now, but we need to look at the fact that over the past six to ten years weve been absolutely decimated across the country so that now in most states we are irrelevant to governing. Weve lost 900 state legislative seats and we lost control of redistricting and that meant we lost control of the house so rebuilding starts with regaining those statehouses, state senate and being able to control the districting in 2020 so were not out of power until 2030. E. J. , you know, you wrote a book that talked about the giant realignment of the Republican Party after the you know, after the Lyndon Johnson era, after the Barry Goldwater experiment. Democrats are now looking at a situation where to krystals point, i believe democrats control 13 out of 50 state legislatures at this point and then there are some that are mixed, but 13 is not a great number. No. So it is true. The democrats we never thought wed be talking about the democrats facing an existential crisis. All of the talk going into this election was the republicans facing an existential crisis based on demographics and now its the reverse. What are your thoughts . Well, first of all, im glad you began with the popular vote because, you know, there was a dusted off all democrats in disarray chyron and under on the screen on the previous show and yet the democrats, hillary by 1. 5 million, maybe more. This isnt 1984. This isnt 1988. That complicates things. Secondly the Obama Coalition came through nationally. It came through in a lot of states. What we forgot is that the Obama Coalition in the White Working Class, in the midwest and northeast was a crossracial working classicolition. It included latinos, africanamericans and a significant number of white voters. There was a decay there, and democrats need to put this back together, and i dont look forward to a simple leftright fight in the Democratic Party. Right out of the box theres going to be big fights with the Trump Administration, i hate to say those word, over appealing obamacare. Left and right may have disagreements over the health care system. They agree we need to keep obamacare. Repealing wall street reform. Left and right may disagree on where to go forward, but they sure dont want to get rid of those, and we have a whole lot of fights to have where i think its very important that the center and left of the Democratic Party understand that they have to fight these fights together and five months of an ideological argument will only make it more tempting to put those dems in disarray kay rons at the bottom of every television screen. Yeah, absolutely. Getting shellacked in 2012 and losing white voters in 2008. That was not across the country. There were states where he won a majority of white voters. Correct. And it was some of the same states where Hillary Clinton just lost a majority of white voters. You cannot say that enough. E. J. Makes a good point. I want to play one person who was laughed at for making this prognostication in july of 2014. I want to play what proved to be the most prescient piece of sound from the calendar year 2015. Lets play it. All i want to say is that anybody from the democratic side of the fence who thinks that who is terrified of the possibility of President Trump better vote, better get active and better get involved because the this man has some momentum, and we better be red for the fact that he might be leading the republican ticket. I know you dont believe that, but i want to go on. Sorry to laugh. George, we had Jesse Ventura in minnesota win the governorship. Nobody thought he was going to win. Im telling you. Stranger things have happened. The laughter of the elites at Keith Ellison when he made the most prescient peeves sound in 2015. Lets play that same gentleman Keith Ellison, congressman from minnesota who is up for dnc chair potentially. Lets play him on meet the press this morning. How did this happen . Well, i think that people have been looking at 40 years of flat wages, you know, the reality is you got folks in diners and hair shops and barber shops all over this country who look at their own lives and think, you know, my parents did better than im doing and my kids might not do as well as im doing. The truth is that we have got to make america work for working people again. Round robin. People are laughing, karine, about the idea of Keith Ellison. Thereto was a New York Times where they said dont pick a black muslim. Your problem is with White Working Class person. Should people be laughing at the idea that have guy leading the dnc . Not at all. Just to put it out there. Moveon actually said we put out a statement saying we thout h ellison would be an excellent chair. Yeah. I think the one thing hell have to worry about is that hes a sitting congressman and people the time. And we do need somebody who is going to be able to focus on this. Do you think he has had a shot, and should he do it . He has had a shot and he should do it. There are other good candidate in there, but i think he would be a great choice. E. J. Dionne, what do you think . One of the things about Keith Ellison, i agree with what karine said. Hes very plausible and they got to think about fulltime. Those are in contradiction but they are both important. Keith ellison understands religious voters. Hes muslims but hes worked with christians and jews thats progressive. Thats real important for the Democratic Party after this election. He gets that in a way other politicians dont. Krystal ball . You know what i like about Keith Ellison, hes a dramatic break from the past and he was president bushient and had some of these things right so i do like the idea. One thing would i love to see is back in 2004 we had had a lengthy Public Campaign for those folks who wanted to be dnc chair, and i think we should have that same thing here so that the party really has a chance to think about who they want to see in leadership going forward, but i do like we cant tinker around the edges here, folks. We have to make big changes so we can win in states across the country, and i think he does represent a big change. Well bring all of our guests back later. A Public Campaign for dnc chain, that may be a good idea. Let people talk about it instead of having the establishment pick. Thats one of the big fights, establishment versus the base. Coming up, tuesdays shocking result follows the gutting of the voter right act. Well take a look at the impact of that next. Can i give it to you straight . That Airline Credit card you have. It could be better. Its time to shake things up. 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Joining me is ari berman, author of question give us the ballot and democratic strategist Karine Jeanpierre and your latest article is called the gops attack on Voting Rights was the most undercovered story of 2016. What did we miss . The media missed that this was the first president ial election without the full protection of the Voting Rights act. Did you such a fantastic job of covering this, joy, but many of our colleagues on cable and broadcast news totally ignored it. There are 26 president ial debates and not one question about the gutting of the Voting Rights act. They couldnt have found two minutes somewhere in 26 debates to mention that voters in 14 states were going to go to the polls with new restrictions, and we spent so much time about talking about who people were going to vote for, but we didnt ask the other question which is were people going to vote, be able to vote in the first place . Yeah. I mean, im sitting here holding this is a memo put out by the North CarolinaRepublican Party in which they are bragging about how few black people voted early. They are quite proud of what they did in North Carolina to reduce the number of africanamericans who went to the polls. They are sort of chocking it up to they didnt care, they werent enthusiastic. What do you chock up that reduction in black early vote, too . The numbers show that for the first week of early voting in 40 majority black counties there were 158 fewer polling places. There were cities like greensboro where the county had 16 early voting sites in 2012 and only one early voting site in 2016 and black turnout dropped 16 in that