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MSNBCW AM Joy January 6, 2018

Is, that spills all the tea about what his staff and family really think about i had mental capacity, his emotional stability and his fitness to perform his job as president. The book, fire and fury inside the Trump White House is the culmination of writer Michael Wolffs 18 months of fly on the wall access to Trumps Campaign and his white house. Trump cannot stop obsessing over the book. Last night he put it like this. Michael wolff is a total loser who made up stories to sell this really boring and untruthful book. He used sloppy steve bannon who cried when he got fired and begged for his job. Now sloppy steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. Too bad. Wolff says he has recordings and notes to back up his reporting. This morning trumps rage tweeting continued as he declared himself a stable genius. The First Casualty of the book bombshell is the relationship between trump and his former chief strategist, steve bannon who is quoted extensively in the book including calling Donald Trumps jr. Meeting at the trump tower with a russian lawyer, treasonous. This earned an attack from trump, including that new nickname, sloppy steve and led him being dropped by rebecca mercer. All of this comes at a time when we learn lots of new details about the Russian Investigation. Well have more on that later. First, im just sipping on all this hot book tea with my panel. Here with me now are jenn kerns, tim obrien, Democratic Political consultant, tara dowd. Im trying to decide to two of the trump whisperers i will go to. Ladies first. Tara, you know donald trump from th the apprentice. The things said in the book about his intelligence, his attention span, about him being child like. Were those things true of him at the time that you first got to know of him in the apprentice. There was a side of donald trump that fit all of those characteristics. But there was also a side of donald trump at that time which was much more disciplined, much more focused, particularly around things he cared about. So prent wthe apprentice was something he cared about, he put a lot of time, energy, focus on the apprentice. I said this before, he could be charming. Everything im seeing now, is that the side, the low attention span, the erratic, those negative things, that side has taken over. Its very clear. This book is not breaking really any new ground. Its taking all of those things and putting them in one place. But everything that is said in this book are things that people like i have said over the course of his campaign. Other people who know him have said the same thing. Now its getting focus and the reason is because its coming from people who are his supporters. And people who wanted him to be president and worked towards getting him there. I want to come to you on this, tim. You are a biographer of donald trump. I want to read an excerpt from this book, fire and fury which people are lining up literally to get. A lot of people who donald trump does not want to know about these things will know about it. This says on trumps nightly routine, if he was not having his 6 30 dinner with steve bannon, more to his liking he was in bed at that time with a cheeseburger watching his three screens and making phone calls. The phone was his true contact point to the world. To a small group of friends who charted the rising and falling levels of agitation through the evening and compared notes with one another and leaked that information out. Is that the way donald trump has operated . He needs to constantly call and get reinforcement from friends and eating in bed . Not only that he constantly needs to call and get reinforcement from friends but that he lives an isolated existence. He doesnt like to socialize. Hes never been visible on the charity circuit. He doesnt go to black tie events in manhattan. His ideal evening is to sit with a cleez buheeseburger in front tv watching sports. Liz smith once said to me the only thing you need to know about donald trump is hes a 7yearold growing old. Theres a lot of truth to that. Jen, you have people on the staff, these are people who are working for donald trump, who wanted him to be president , they are still working towards a successful presidency for him. They say insulting donald trump is the thing you could not do and the thing drawing there but for the grace of god guffaws across the senior staff, that everybody was guilty of. For Steve Mnuchin and reince priebus, he was an idiot. For gary kohn he was dumb as expletive. What do you make of the fact that people are referring to donald trump as a dope and idiot. The biggest premise of this book that is false is that somehow like this chaos in the west wing is somehow a crime. We know of people that are ceos, entrepreneurs, inventors, people like donald trump, they love chaos. They love a difference of opinion, diversity of opinion. I did ver diversity of opini intelligence . Would you allow somebody who was dumb, a dope, idiot, chaos to reign. Does that sound like a sound organization . I think people knew what they were getting. Did they know they were getting a dope, idiot, dumb. One of the criticisms so far of the book has been the sourcing of mr. Wolff. In his own introduction he said there were differing opinions, differing sources, and he even said he believed that some sources were not factual. He didnt say that. Yes, he did. Its in writing and its in Donald Trumps demand letter. The cease and desist letter but anybody who covered trump for a long time knows everything in this book rings true. You can go back and forth on the sourcings and methods, but the donald trump in this book is the donald trump the press has been covering for the last year, and its the Donald Trump New yorkers have known for three decades. Do the things said about donald trump in this book ring true to your reporting of this president . Very much so. A lot of it. Its not it is barely even an open secret that people closest to donald trump, including his top political advisers and senior officials in his administration think hes an idiot. Thats not even an opinion. Its just a fact that they believe that and say that all the time when they have the benefit of not having him in the room. Thats something that has been confirmed report after report after report over the first year of the Trump Presidency at the daily beast and at myriad other publications. What Michael Wolff is doing right now, as salacious and at times compelling his book may be, its just basically all hes doing is confirming what is already out there. Just in his own words. A lot of this is name calling. I go back to wolff its their opinion of him. You have to this is a reporter who covers the white house. This is tara, who knows donald trump, and this is tim obrien who is a biographer of donald trump who are all telling you the people around donald trump to a person believe him to be unintelligent and an idiot and in some cases to be impaired. Do you know donald trump personally . I do. I dont find him to be an idiot. Youre alone in this. No. This is their opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether theyre a member of the cabinet or a senior staff in the white house. Heres what i do know, the American People did not elect a traditional republican or a traditional candidate. They intentionally sent donald trump to washington to blow up the boxes and drain the swamp. Were suggesting through this book by Michael Wolff that somehow chaos in the west wing is an unknown thing . Look at the clinton years. We had the Monica Lewinsky scandal this is not typical chaos. Weve seen it before. No we have not seen anything like this before. I think its fair to say we have never seen anything like this. Ill let you guys in. I wanted to make a point. One of the big issues for trump is that he is surrounded by a bunch of mercenaries. If hes all of these negative things, why are these people working for him . Theyre all mercenaries. These are people advancing their oeb own agenda. They have been leaking from day one from the campaign into the white house, theyve been leaking every single day. All of this stuff we know, all of these leaks are coming from inside the white house. These are not coming from outside sources. So, when youre surrounded by messaries i worked in the do governors office, but these people want somebody they can take advantage of. Go ahead. For as much as the president and the white house like to bash the what they would call the fake news media, what the press had to say about donald trump, in analysis, opinion, reporting, as rough as it has been, its nothing compared to what his own advisers and senior Officials Say about him when hes not in the room. Thats a fact. Your guest might have a different opinion about it. But theres not that many people who would agree with her on that point, both publicly and privately except for, save, the president of the United States himself, who has been ranting on the internet this morning. Y yes, he has. About. How genius he is and how perfectly okay his head is. For the president of the United States, im not exaggerating when i say i cannot think of a Single Person in this country who cares about media feuds or media gossip more than this president. Thats been true for a long time before he entered the white house. Honestly, this book is tailor made for his specific obsessions. Tim, i want to get to that. Part of the reason it seems Michael Wolff was able to ingratiate himself, he is from the Hollywood Reporter, donald trump is obsessed with hollywood and being liked. Mike set himself up as a trump friendly voice, and trump gave him access. I want to ask you this, this is one of the more disturbing things we heard about donald trump from the people around him. It says this is from the Hollywood Reporter writeup about the book that Michael Wolff did. It used to be inside of 30 minutes he would repeat word for word and expression for expression the same three stories. Now it was within ten minutes. Indeed many of his tweets were the product of his repetitions. He couldnt stop saying something. At maralago, a heavily made up trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends this is not suggests just eccentricity but impairment. We can go the impairment thing awaits more evidence. No question hes profoundly narcissistic and wildly insecure. He has spent his whole life creating an alternate reality for himself. One of the reasons he was an effective candidate and good salesman is he focuses on a few things and beats on thos relentlessly. And hes telling himself these same myths. Any time anyone pokes his intellect, mental stability, wealth, success, how attractive he is to women, he goes ballistic. Hes doing it on twitter this morning. You have seen his speeches. He meanders. His mind meanders all over the place. He cant stay on topic. If hes repeating things over and over again, used to be 30 minutes, now ten, couldnt recognize old friends, no concern on your part that there might be impairment here . The American People did not the majority of the American People voted for the other candidate. Even the minority who voted for donald trump im sure didnt vote for somebody who was impaired or wanted somebody impaired. This suggestion that donald trump did not recognize old friends at a new years eve party. He met thousands and thousands of people. But theyre not all his friends. In a busy room, youre greeting people. You dont have any concern donald trump the tweeting this morning, this sort of series of tweets about how im so smart, im so intelligent, none of that concerns you . The tweeting is a side show. It has been the behavior. These allegations that hes unfit to be president , hes mentally unstable 100 of the people who work for him believe that. Not 100 . Michael wolff said every Single Person who works for him believe hes unfit. Michael wolff also said he had opposing sources. He felt some sources were not completely truthful to him. He did not say that. Yes, he did. Trump can do what every other president has done. Submit himself to a physicians exam and make the results of the exam public. Why should he have to do that . Because every other president has. Its a question of his mental stability. I would caution every psychiatrist on this 27 of them 27 of them are on record. They warn people against diagnosing people they have not examined. I dont think it benefits anybody here who doesnt have a medical degree to play arm chair physician or psychiatrist. But i wanted to make a simple point, could you imagine what the right would be doing to barack obama if there was a hint of this focus on Barack Obamas Mental Health during the administration . Its insane. We dont have to prefend aboten it. That very thing was done to Hillary Clinton during the campaign. There was all of this speculation. About her health. The right did that to the enth degree. Why isnt it proper right now to question whether or not the president of the United States is stable . We have to go. We have to go. Thank you. Appreciate you. Happy new year. Up next, the latest on Jeff Sessions attempt to smear james comey and more. Im smart like everybody said. Not dumb, but smart and i want respect we got a yes what does that mean for purchasing . Purchase. Lets do this. Got it. Book the flights hai si si ya ya ya what does that mean for us . We can get stuff. Whats it mean for shipping . Ship the goods. Youre a go you got the green light. That means go oh, yeah. Start saying yes to your companys best ideas. Were gonna hit our launch date scream thank you goodbye let us help with money and knowhow, so you can get business done. American express open. Hey, need fast so yotry cool mint zantac. Ne. 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Two days after comeys testimony last may, an aide to attorney general Jeff Sessions asked a Congressional Staff member whether he had damaging information about mr. Comey. The attorney general wanted one negative article a day in the news media about mr. Comey, according to a person with n knowledge of the meeting. A spokesperson says that meeting did not happen. At the time trump was enraged that sessions distanced himself from the investigation. Joining me now is former Justice Department spokesperson, matthew miller. Former u. S. Attorney, joyce vance, and fbi double agent, naveet jamal. The idea of the attorney general of the United States sending a staffer to Congress Looking for dirt on the fbi director, we talked about this, you and i talked about this before, we talked about it 24 hours ago, how unprecedented is that . How disturbed should we be by that . Yeah. Ill leave the criminal violation piece to joyce. Just the fact that hes the attorney general, the head of that department, supposed to be looking out for the employees of that department, supposed to be protecting them, defending them, in this case he seems to be acting like a Campaign Opposition researcher, sending operatives out trying to dig up dirt on comey and have them placed into the media. That will have huge ramifications for him to lead the department. Not just because of this anecdo anecdote, but its the latest in a series of Jeff Sessions not doing his job as attorney general. When the president has come under attack, he has not stood up to defend the men and women of the department, and not only has he not stood up to defend them but hes one of the people going out trying to further that narrative and advance that narrative. It will be hard for him to lead the career men and women of the Department Going forward. Joyce, on the question of whether what he did is not just distasteful but potentially an element of obstruction of justice. Adam schiff said that suggested they wanted to build a case publicly to fire comey. If this was part of an effort to conceal the real motive for firing comey, thats pertinent to obstruction of justice. Your thoughts . One thing for sure, if eric holder tried to do Something Like this when jim comey was his director of the fbi, there would have been called for holders head and a criminal investigation opened. That said, i think we dont know quite enough about the facts yet to determine whether theres criminal liability. It is certainly possible. Obstruction of justice here would require a construct motivation to curtail an investigation. It would have to be a pending legal proceeding. So, our laypersons understanding of what obstruction is is different than proving these elements of a federal crime. Thats a little bit more technical and difficult. Well have to watch these facts unfold. But it is certainly worth watching. Naveed, the other element of the reporting were getting on Jef

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