Detention of of migrant families should be taken off the table. But even facing the added pressure of a courtimposed 30day deadline to reunite families, with no clear plan, its unclear how exactly the Trump Administration will comply. Time may not be on their side, meanwhile. The Administration Says that as of tuesday, 2,047 separated children are still in government custody. Only 6 fewer than last week. Joining me now is Garrett Haake on the ground in d. C. Just to warn everyone, there is a little bit of delay between myself and garrett. Garrett, ill start by asking you, what are you expecting to see today . Have you started to speak to the folks who are trickling in to begin participating in the rally . Reporter hey, joy. Guilty or n good morning. Were about 200 yards from the white house and while the president isnt here today, its going to be hard for him to ignore these pictures. We expect to see a massive rally here in d. C. Organizers say that could get as many as 50,000 people here in the streets around the white house, marching through downtown d. C. On this issue. Now, there are boldfaced names involved in this particular protest today, not that you might see in some of these others across the country. We expect to see Linmanuel Miranda here, alicia keys expected to participate, but i think whats going to draw a lot of attention today are hearing from some of these immigrant families, in some cases even through translators. It will be the first time the nation has gotten to see these families on such a big stage. Were still more than an hour from this really getting under way. Folks are fired up about this issue and have been for weeks and i think thats really important. There was that protest on thursday in the Hart Senate Office building that had it not been for the shooting in annapolis i think could have been one of the biggest stories this week. You saw 500 people get arrested, including at least one member of congress. It speaks to just how fired up people continue to be about this issue and frankly, i think, how little faith they have that the court injunctions, the executive orders, and the steps that have been taken politically so far will be enough. These people want to see a lot more get done here, joy. Garrett haake, thank you very much. We are going to come back to you periodically to check in with you to see what youre seeing out there on the ground here in washington, d. C. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Joining me now here in the studio, maria, president and ceo of voto latino. Senior adviser from move on. Org and nbc correspondent joining us from l. A. Thank you for being here. Im going to start at the table. Maria, we know what the demands are, to end the family detentions, to end the zero tolerance policy, to reunite the families. How disturbing is it for you to learn that the administration has so far managed to reunite exact exactly 6 out of more than 2,050 children. I think they did the photo op and figured after they did the photo op of the six children and the six family reunifications, they wouldnt have to do it again. Lets be clear. Industry, organizations have all come together trying to figure out how can they find a database, how can they create reunification. The government can do that tomorrow. If we demand a hearing, oversight hearing for nielsen, sessions, scott lloyd, saying where are the children, where are unifications, all of this is done through government contracts. There are government databases that have both the parents and the children, but were not asking them to actually come over and do an oversight hearing. Congress has to be responsible to the American Public and were not demanding that they do their job. Youve had 18 states sue the Trump Administration over these family separation policies, because even the states are not able to get information about migrants who were in their state, who are in the custody of hhs and npr says a federal judge has told hem you hathem you hav reunite families. You have all this legal maneuvering taking place but theres no evidence that ive seen that the administration has a plan to reunite these kids. There was never a plan. Thats the point. The point was to do this horrible, inhumane act, and not care about reunifying them ever, and heres the thing. Theres a report that came out, i believe, yesterday, that there could be more than 2,000 kids that have been separated from their parents. Apparently they were doing this as a Pilot Program, the government was doing this as a Pilot Program in texas months prior to when it became official. So they were doing it, i think, from october to february, so there could be 4,100 is what i read in the report that could be separated and they have the to and from the courts, they have to reunify them by july 26th. How can they possibly do that if there is no plan and we dont know where the kids are, we dont know where the babies are, we dont know where the girls are. We have no idea of whats going on. Joy, something that most americans dont realize is that after a certain time, the child is with the with the government, then they get tracked into foster care. Once they are tracked into foster care, the parent, by legal right, loses the right to their child. Right. They lose their own parental rights and they have to petition just like any other petitioner. And many of the parents have been deported already. I want to go to mariana because some of the parents have already pleaded guilty to unlawful entry meaning now, when theyre petitioning to get custody of the child, on their record is pleading guilty to a crime and i know youve talked to a lot of parents that were separated from their children. Do you get the sense that the parents believe that the government even knows where their children are . Its devastating, joy, and i think the outrage for many of the parents i have spoken to is that they do believe the government has the information. Theyre just reluctant to give it out. Meanwhile, you have these immigrants who have been released from these Detention Centers who dont speak english, dont have any of their belongings. Theyre trying to get somewhere and some help to be able to be reunified with their children. I spoke to maria, for example, shes an immigrant from el salvador who came here with the migrant caravan, meaning she turned herself legally at a port of entry seeking asylum. She was kept at the Detention Center for weeks. Her little boy, marcus, is 7. She has a 2yearold named nelson. She knows theyre somewhere in new york. She has just been released and is trying to make her way to them but she says the government told her that she has to provide dna proof that shes the mother, more documents. Things that were actually taken from her in detention, so just hearing from this mother is absolutely devastating, and an example of what these families are going through. I spoke to a lawyer in brownsville whos representing a man from guatemala trying to get reunified with his 12yearold daughter, and she told me that she calls the caseworker, and she knows that they have the information for both because the parents information is on a dhs track. The kids information is on an orr track, but theyre just reluctant to give it out. So, its really just proof that there seems to be no plan, no consistency, and no relief for these families. The people from the texas civil rights project told me that they represent almost 400 families and theyve only been able to confirm 4 reunifications and in fact 5 people who already have been deported without their children. And theres no relief for them in that injunction. Oh, my goodness. You know, maria, so not only do you have the parents who, as, you know, point that she made, theyre tracked into a department of Homeland Security system. The children are tracked through the office of Refugee Resettlement so tracked in two different directions. In two different agencies and that is the challenge. Thats the challenge. So hhs, their involvement has to be safety of the child. So, then theyre going and investigating the parent or if there is a custodial aunt or something, theyre saying, give us your fingerprints, tell us your papers so theyre also putting people in jeopardy of themselves tracking for deportation. Exactly. What the the challenge is that were not getting a straight answer from any of the heads of the government agencies. They have no plan, they dont seem to care. The American People, again, not to drive home the point, when the American People say that they want to help, the best way they can help is call their m z members of congress and demand an oversight hearing. This is outrageous. We have to make sure these children are reunified and a lot of these children are getting separated from their parents over a misdemeanor charge. Its a misdemeanor to cross the border. Can we play this vice audio . You talk about it and its theoretical and horrifying to think about but when you hear the voices of these distraught children, its hard to listen to but i feel like we need to confront i. This confront it. This is a little boy talking to his mom. His mom is from guatemala and he has been theyve been separated from one another and vice news recorded audio of their phone call. Take a listen. [ speaking Foreign Language ] and im sitting here on the set with two mothers of very Young Children. You know, my children are, you know, basically adults at this point. But even for me, i just take myself right back to them as that little boy, and its and do i have to play to juxtapose that for our audience, just so you understand the mentality of the people were dealing with. This is the attorney general of the United States, jeff sessions, who i wonder if hes moved when he hears that audio, when i hear this audio of him. The rhetoric we hear from the other side on this issue has become radicalized. These same people live in gated communities, many of them, and if you try to scale the fence, believe me, theyll be even too happy to have you arrested and separated from your children. They would like to see that. So they want borders in their lives but not in yours. Karine, when i lived in florida, my kids and i lived in a gated community, if someone had come and taken one of them, i dont understand that. Im sorry, i dont. Weve talked about this, joy, which is the dehumanization of a group of people. Weve seen this in the past and this is whats happening. When you do that and you hear the way hes speaking, sessions is speaking, you feel like you can do anything to groups of people. You can treat them like animals, as the president has called. Hes called them infestations. So, it is really sad because it is a it is a way of taking peoples rights. When you were playing the vice tape there, the video, it made me think about earlier in the week there was a young boy who was separated from his family, taken to new york, and he tried to jump out of a twostory building because he was so devastated and heartbroken and so theres also two part to whats happening today. Yes, its demanding that we bring these families back together, but theres also part of, if they are brought back together, what does this Administration Want to do . They want to detain them permanently, which we cannot have either. Right, so during the Obama Administration, we had similar problems of families facing a refugee crisis, and what they did is they put ankle bracelets and they released them and theyd have to come in and check in. It worked. It was a program with basically 90 efficacy. They were able to resolve whether the person was here seeking asylum or they had to be deported. What were doing is inhumane and costs billions of dollars. Now theyre going to build detention camps. Last word to you, because you have a Trump Administration plan that they say is going to fix this by essentially saying that anyone who enters the country illegally would be barred from getting asylum, no matter what they we fleeing, gang violence, war, it doesnt matter what theyre fleeing, if they are convicted of illegal entry, they would be prevented, prosecuted, and would immediately be denied asylum period. Your thoughts . Theyre not making it easy for these families to do this the right way, joy. We have been reporting for the past week in arizona, in that border, they are keeping dozens and dozens of families with little babies outso in the blazg shot s hot sun waiting for an average of two weeks trying to seek asylum the right way. What do you think a mother, who is 21 years old who has been harass and had beaten and raped by some of the same smugglers that are bringing her over and is carrying a young child, what do you think she will be tempted or told to do after shes been waiting on the other side for two weeks . To come in through a port of entry of just to try to come in any way she can because shes so desperate. Theyre not making it easy for these families and now that will mean they will automatically get prosecuted. So when the messaging coming from this administration, you had mike pence and nielsen in guatemala this week saying you want to come to the United States . Do it legally. Or dont come at all. Theyre making it nearly impossible for these people to come here legally. And if they dont do it, theyll bet prosecuted. Last question, very quickly. I know were out of time. Just from your reporting, is the administration indeed have they stopped separating families . I have not heard of any recent separations after the executive order. But what i do keep hearing is of people being detained, being stuck at ports of entry. What i do keep hearing is people who try to seek asylum legally being placed with ankle monitors, being separated for short periods of time from their children inside detention, which is a form of dehumanization, which is a form of criminalizing these people who have an international right to seek asylum. Just as your round table was discussing, when they talk about an infestation, when they talk about these hoards that are coming, it dehumanizes all of us, the legal immigrants like myself who are here and the undocumented immigrants and the ones who are coming with every right to seek asylum the right way and seek a better life for their children. Joy . Thank you, mariana, thank you for reporting. Maria teresa and karine and mariana will be back later. 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Were going to see but we believe that families should be together also. So theres not a lot to fight. We believe families have to be together. But what we really do is we believe in very strong borders, no crime, and the democrats believe in open borders and plenty of crime, because thats what you get with the open borders. Well, it is still unclear how the government will comply with the federal judges order to reunite Migrant Children already separated from their parents. The Trump Administration has less than a month to reunite the families, and less than two weeks for children under five. But in a court filing overnight, the Trump Administration argues that the order actually means that it can detain immigrant families until their cases are complete, meaning families, even if theyre reunited, could spend months or even years, years in detention. Meanwhile, the Trump Administration claims to know where all the children who have been separated are being held. There is no reason why any parent would not know where their child is located. I could, at the stroke of at key strokes, ive sat on the o. R. R. Portal with just basic key strokes, within seconds, could find any child in our care for any parent. Its available. Its right there. Mr. Secretary, suffice it to say, portals are not part of the daily existence thats why we have joining me now is congresswoman pramila and laura pena, former i. C. E. Assistant chief counsel. Congresswoman, i want to start with a very basic question. Congress has oversight responsibilities that are in play here. As a member of congress, are you able to get access to information on where these 2,400 children are . No and that terrifies me because we have sent letters, weve been on the phone and in fact they told us, i. C. E. Told us, told my staffer, that they have spreadsheets that they can try to go into and try to pull up the information, but they dont actually have a place where it comes together and theyre not sure exactly what information is there. When