Going, quote, well. Lawmakers who have been diagnosed continues to grow. Just in the last hour we learned that senator ron johnson of wisconsin has tested positive. He joins two of his senator colleagues, thom till lis and mike lee. At least 7 people who attended that event have now tested positive. Joining me now, laurie garrett, author of the plague is coming. Former senior to the white house, olivia troy and yami yamish elcindor. Lori, i would like to start with you. You had a piece today on Foreign Policy headlines saying only state of the art medicine and luck can save trump now. Can you talk a little bit about what you meant . Well, i dont write the headlines so i did not write that headline, but my article says that we know now that trump has a lot more underlying medical conditions than hes ever really allowed the world to know about. He has tried his level best to appear very youthful, to have no trouble walking, no trouble lifting glasses of water to drink, no difficulty slurring words, all these things. Hes gone out of his way to have medical assessments appear that, number one, hes in the fittest state of health and number two that hes considerably younger as joe biden who he likes to portray as old and see kneel. Theyre only three years apart. What were finding is indeed the president has had a number of underlying conditions and may in fact have some cardiovascular issues. This puts him, coupled with his obesity and age, in a High Risk Group once infected with the covid virus. This means he is likely to be under treatment for a considerable amount of time and he certainly cant go out campaigning. He certainly isnt going to be in a position to mix with others in any considerable way that would contribute both to his campaigning and frankly running the government. So my advise is that mike pence should remain close to washington able to step in and run the oval office should the president s condition worsen. Olivia, you were part of the Coronavirus Task force. I want you to take a listen to this please. The cdc is advising the use of nonmedical cloth Face Covering as an additional voluntary Public Health measure. Its voluntary. They suggest it for a period of time, but this is voluntary. I dont think im going to be doing it. A lot of people dont want to wear masks. A lot of people think the masks are not good. Dr. Fauci said they are. Very strongly masks are not good. Then he changed his mind, masks are good. I dont wear masks like him. Every time you see him he has a mask. He shows up with the biggest mask ive ever seen. Olivia, you were inside the white house. You were part of the discussions. Are you surprised . Im not. We saw how cavalier it was. Its a hard 24 hours. I worked side by side with them, but on the other hand, i cant help but think this is plain karma. Everything that the president has been saying to the public has put the public at harm and now youre watching it play out inside the white house. All of these guidelines and everything, the advice that the doctors and the scientists have been trying to get out to the public about why Mass Gatherings are not good, why its so critically important to wear a mask. I was one of them. We were there. I watched it firsthand. They did not follow these guidelines and now the American Public is watching it play out. . At the white house even yesterday we saw senior white house officials not Wearing Masks as they were taking questions from reporters and this is after the president had been diagnosed with covid19. So before this we saw a white house that was holding large events. Thinking back to the Republican National convention. I was there as they were rolling out amy coney barrett. Many, many people that are not Wearing Masks. Kellyanne conway, mike lee. The president of notre dame. Something like seven people have now tested positive just from that event. What you see there is really a white house trying to put the virus in the rearview mirror. Just a few days ago the president said the end of the pandemic is real. You do not see it in other developed modernized nations. Thats a federal government that has up ended because it could not protect itself from the virus. The president has been saying he wants to keep people safe, but now he had to be medivaced away from the white house and taking a number of treatments, at least two, along with supplements. Everything is going well. White house reporters are telling reporters this is business as usual. There is nothing usual about the federal government being in a hospital and having to work from there and now so many people are scared they have been exposed. Youre right. Take a look at the folks that have been infected that surround the president. One of the things that i can imagine the American People asking saying if the president cannot be protected by covid, how can i . Can you just speak talk a little bit about the precautions that people can take right now to protect themselves . First of all, let me note if you went to that picture, if you look at kellyanne and others that have been infected, they were in the first two or three rows closest to the stage where the president was. Theres people that didnt realize they had the virus. Some of the worst super spreading events happened to individuals. When you think of not only your self protection but protecting your selfand others around you and being a decent citizen. You can have no symptoms and be very contagious. Thats why you have to wear a mask. Its not just to protect yourself because there is no mask that you can purchase at your drugstore thats 100 absolute percent protective. You wear the mask because it keeps your virus from going out to others. Youre being a decent human being. One thing that yamish mentioned, we have an outbreak even though we are the most developed, wealthiest country and we havent had this under control. Talk about what other countries are doing well so we can learn and make sure were embracing basic health safety. I think other countries are in a much better place. Many people are comfortable Wearing Masks. Theyre following the protocols. Theyre okay. Its hard. Its hard to shut down. Its hard to shut down businesses. They took this very seriously as opposed to what we did domestically. We had a white house and president who was focused on reopening as fast as possible with complete disregard for what the science and data was saying. He was pressuring governors to open up their states way too fast and way too soon. I saw it in my home state of texas and florida. It will continue to happen if we have it happen this way. A thread with the idea pence should stand by. Are you hearing a your report jerts about the role and the line of presidencies and who would be next in line because they continue to insist that the president is doing well, that he is in good spirits, that hes working. Obviously the Vice President is on alert and he has been working from his residence and was not at the white house from my understanding. Lets make sure Vice President pence has been protected. Senator mike lee is sitting behind Vice President pence. There are a lot of Health Officials saying you can test negative one day and positive the next day. Vice president pence is literally in the middle of all of the other people, especially mike lee is literally right behind him. I think theres a lot of concern Vice President pence needs to be kept safe but President Trump and the white house say i continues to remain in control. Laurie, what do you do . Wear your masks, all the time, never stop wearing them. Thats the number one advice. Number two, i think its really imperative that we get to the bottom of this potential cluster situation. If, indeed, there was a super spreader event, then every Single Person who attended that, including the journalist the, camera crews, all of the people must be tested and followed over time. This is the thing a lot of people get a false hope. Sometimes you havent developed enough virus in your body yesterday to pick it up. It is imperative that everybody on the helicopter, plane, perhaps in the debate in cleveland, every single one of these people has got to get tested repeatedly over the next several days and if we did have a cluster moment there, that is a teaching moment. It should help us rethink sturgis, the rallies, tulsa where we know herm maan cane go infected and died. Oh, boy, they should have been giving the right messaging. Their teaching moments, whos at risk in a bar, school, wherever pf r people are. Thank you. Back in the next hour. 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Bounce forward, with comcast business. It says after you said a president can accepted a letter ahead to leaders of congress saying, for instance, im getting power to my Vice President as long as i am under anesthesia or a majority of the cabinet of the president is incapacitated can vote and say we think the president is not capable of being president. The Vice President should take on the powers or Congress Might appoint some other body to rule on this. The prob kblem the president s nowadays dont take the 25th amendment serious enough. Theyre afraid to use it. Ronald regan in 19d 81 when he was shot. He thought a letter was drafted giving Vice President george h. W. Bush the power to be president while ragan was under anesthesia. They didnt do it because they thought it would alarm people. No president used the 25th amendment to do that ever before. Ragan in 1985 had intestinal surgery at what is now walter reed, same place President Trump is now and he did sign a letter saying Vice President of bush can act as president while im under anesthesia but im not fully invoking the 25th amendment. Finally, george w. Bush in 2002, 2007 had col low no, sir skoe pis and he wrote letters before those saying under the 25th amendment i want Vice President cheney to act in my stead. Thats the way its supposed to happen. So this is where i think your expertise is so important because something we do know is that the president likes to appear always strong. He likes to make sure oh, yes. He likes to make sure people recognize he is healthy. Joe bidens junior, granted by three years. Right. What makes this presidency so different than what you just outlined . Because youve got a president that likes to improvise and not share power. Theyre depending on a president s goodwill and leadership. Woodrow wilson in 1919 had a massive stroke at the white house exactly 101 years ago yesterday and wilson didnt want to share power. He was lying in bed upstairs half paralyzed, wouldnt talk to his Vice President. The Vice President could be in the cabinet. He was furious. He gave a lot of the Decision Making power to his wife and covered up the way it was. Thats the way its not supposed to happen. In 1963 john kennedy was shot. Lyndon johnson was in the same motorcade. They both went to parkland hospital. Even though kennedy was not officially dead, you go to johnson, well stay with the president and once, of course, the president was officially declared dead at 1 p. M. , they went with the new president , johnson, who was sworn in on air force one. The picture of that was very reassuring to people. Michael, i want you to take a listen to actually what is so contraduct try of what youre describing other administrations have done. Take a listen to mike pence right now. He says in the book you were put on alert to take control, to take office essentially if he went under for anesthesia. Is that true . President donald trump is in Excellent Health and, brett, im always informed of the president s movements. As far as being on stand by . I dont recall being told to be on stand by. I was informed the president had a doctors appointment. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That was what you just heard mike pence say was exactly what the 25th amendment was passed by congress to avoid. The whole point is to have a formal system to transfer power without scaring anyone if the president gets sick or goes under anesthesia. Hes not under anesthesia but he is sick. Obviously mike pence is afraid of looking as hes seedsing power. Were going to go into these conversations where some people in the public will say, we shouldnt know what is the state of the president. This is something that is private. Explain to the American People why we need to have these type of transparencies when it comes to the health of the president of the United States regardless of who holds office. A lot of people will say, havent you ever heard of hipaa. Everyone deserves privacy about his medical record. Thats true. Its true for you, true for me but we run for president. Theyre saying, make me president. I will defend the free world. Ill defend your children, friends, families and in exchange for being given that awesome power, if i get sick especially with a liech threatening illness, ill give you as much information about that illness and what kind of treatment im getting. That was a precedent set by dwight eisenhower. He went to walter reed that summer for an attack of i will l illeitis. To show the people that im capable of leading, give every bit of information and how thats inflecting me. The come to tors talked in public about his bowel movements. Thats the kind much transparency wed like in october 2020. What would be your advice to mike pence . My advice would be i know youre nervous about infuriating your boss by saying anything that even mentions the subject of transferring power temporarily if necessary, and thank god at this moment theres no necessity for that to happen, but you, mr. Pence, have a larger responsibility. You are Vice President. You were elected by americans to be standing by in case a problem happens. Do you believe that were getting the information we need accurately . Do you believe we need a different level of transparency . We need much more transparency. Number one, donald trump is famously secretive and indirect and not exactly mr. Honesty so thats where were coming from. Number two, you heard from mark meadows, the chief of staff. Of all things, the guy was not even bothering to wear a mask after everything thats happened. The president coming down sick, first lady coming down sick. 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