Good day to you, im Peter Alexander wrapping up this week for my friend, Andrea Mitchell. Today tens of thousands of Muslim Brotherhood members across egypt are refusing to back down to the interim government guided by the nations military. Once again there have been deadly consequences there. Nbcs Ayman Mohyeldin, we want to get to him right away, he is live for us in cairo right now. Ayman, more casualties after what was already the worst mass killing in that countrys modern history. Before we ask you a thought about whats going on now, i want to show you a picture that struck us this morning. This was taken near alexandria, egypt, of egyptians on the beach there. Even as violence raged in the city behind them, we cant verify the person who took this shot. Nonetheless its worth showing because it provides some small window of normalcy and perhaps optimism. Are we heading into another weekend of violence . Peter, the short answer to that is yes, absolutely. Were looking at a death toll that is climbing by the hour here in cairo. Now, this comes, as you mentioned, on the day that mu Muslim Brotherhood supporters have called the day of rage. More than 28 different marches were scheduled across the country today, allment went to converge in this square in the capital. It was there that clashes broke out according to eyewitnesses and others. A short while ago, the anticoup coalition, various groups that oppose the militarys removal o0 people had been recovered inside one of the mosques. The official death toll right now from the ministry of health, a little less. It stands at 27. You can certainly expect that number to rise as some of those bodies from the mosque make their way to official hospitals and morgues. Right now its about 7 00 p. M. Local time. It is the third night of a militaryimposed curfew on the city of cairo and elsewhere across the country. In fact the government reaffirmed its seriousness of this curfew. Does not want anybody out on the streets past 7 00 p. M. Military tanks or apcs have been deployed all day long to prevent those marches from getting to the center of cairo. Right about now they are still positioned but they are checking cars and are checking people who are still out on the street. So a very tense situation that is still developing, not only in cairo but elsewhere across the country, peter. Ayman, how the islamists respond is really going to be critical in determining how this plays out going forward. Does it have the potential to devolve into an armed insurgency . This becomes a more lasting civil war . Reporter absolutely. And you really just have to take a look at some of the violence that has ensued today. Make no doubt about it, the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood and anticoup coalition are calling on this to be peaceful, but the reality on the ground is very different. Weve seen images of protesters carrying weapons. The police force here says they have come under attacks, police stations have come under attacks with molotov cocktails. By no means are all of these peaceful and by no means are both sides restraining themselves. There is violence on both sides which is making it extremely dangerous and volatile. The question, though, is who can actually now control the street. The military and the government want to use maximum force in doing so and they have put this curfew just to regain the upper hand. At the same time, the defiant tone coming out of the Muslim Brotherhood and anticoup coalition is really making it difficult for any type of atmosphere of reconciliation to emerge and thats why were seeing so many of these pockets of violence popping out everywhere. Not only cairo but other cities likes alexandria. The death toll in those cities continues to rise following this very deadly day in egypt, peter. Ayman mohyeldin whos been helping us out all week from cairo, egypt, thanks so much for your reporting. Joining us now on set for more, robin wright, the senior fellow and distinguished scholar at the Woodrow Wilson center and charlie senate is the cofounder and editor at large for the global post. Robin, nice to see you in person. Charlie, i will begin with you quickly, if i can. The Muslim Brotherhood a major faction showing no desire of backing away from this fight. The u. S. , we know, is speak as chuck hagel, the secretary of defense, had numerous conversations with his counterpart in egypt. Those conversations have continued. But is there anyone having a dialogue with the brotherhood themselves, urging them to step back . Well, i think the Muslim Brotherhood has had something of a company log with the state department really from the earliest days of the revolution in tahrir square. My understanding is it continues in back channels, but publicly the Muslim Brotherhood is saying that they have nothing to discuss until president morsi is restored to power. From their position they were elected as a party, the Muslim Brotherhood as a party. That party was elected to 40 of the parliament. The president is from that party. And the first free and fair democratic election in 5,000 years of egyptian history has been thwarted by what they would very clearly call a military coup and theyre very critical of the state department and the white house for, as they would see it, backing that military coup. Very tough spot. Very tough spot for the state department. As charlie just indicated, the administrations tough position is the fact that they supported this military coup. They said they promoted democracy and yet theyre allowing this to take place, which is what so frustrates the brotherhood. So what is the u. S. Government focused on right now . What are they paying attention to right now . The administration didnt support the coup, just refused to call it a coup. I think the administration was taken by surprise by the extent to which the military turned against the brotherhood and cracked down on it. The United States now is looking for what happens in the political process, not just the deterioration of the physical security. And next week on wednesday, the new constitution is scheduled to be unveiled, according to the original road map. Its then supposed to go to a 50member committee reflecting all egyptian political interests for review and then six months after that to have elections for both the president and the parliament. And the political process is tremendously important, because if there are parties that refuse to participate, besides the Muslim Brotherhood, but groups that feel that the coup has gone too far, the military has gone too far, then the danger of the political process eroding becomes very real. And those groups insist that there was a political process. This was the first free election in however many thousand years in that country, and now its being basically tossed out the window. Charlie, i posed a question to you about the impact that this has regionally, especially as the u. S. Tries to initiate its peace talks between the israelis and palestinians right now. Obviously what happens in egypt doesnt necessarily stay there. Right. I mean i think this is really rippling through the region. You see saudi arabia strongly supporting the Egyptian Military for the reasons of its own. Which is they really dont want to see the Muslim Brotherhood gain power all throughout the region. Remember, the Muslim Brotherhood is a decadesold organization, really a social movement connected to movements like hamas and some of the other islamist organizations across the region. The saudis, the gulf states, they do not want to see this, so they support it. Regionally, i think what you have going on is a very tough question. The United States talks about democracy. And it says that it supports democracy. And it also has to be concerned with stability. U. S. Foreign policy now is right on the edge. Do you support stability even if it means pulling back on the democracy and the democratically elected government that was put in place . I think its a very tough spot. I think its going to have big ramifications in the region, because, you know, al qaeda and the much more militant expressions of islam have always said that the Muslim Brotherhood is foolish. Theres a deep divide between al qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. They say the Muslim Brotherhood believes in democracy. So i think this plays into the hand of the islamists. Let me bring in robin one last time. What should we be focused on . As we go into the weekend, what are you paying attention to . I think were all very concerned about how far this goes. One of the great problems in egypt is theres no middle ground. You have two extremes that have taken very firm positions that are not willing to compromise and that means, you know, that civil strife is more likely to continue and the great concern is whether that strife then deteriorates into a repetition of what happened in algeria 20 years ago when it devaufld into a civil war. Is there any debate within the Egyptian Government do you suspect . I think there are fragment that say both the military and the government on one side and the Muslim Brotherhood have diverse voices, arguing over what the best course is. But theres no indication yet that either side is willing to compromise on these fundamental visions of what the future holds. Robin wright, nice to visit with you. Charlie, we appreciate your time as well. For the first time the u. S. Government has confirmed the existence of area 51. 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He would have gotten to the same place, which means that ed snowden has ruined the president s surprise. Speaking of surprises, yet another one from Edward Snowden today. This latest one courtesy of the Washington Post reporting on thousands of instances where the nsa violated privacy rules put in place for the americans, the organization the same americans theyre trying to protect. Joining me now for our daily fix is crystal izza, kate taylor and nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly odonnell. Kelly, good to visit with you right now. In the most charitable of terms, what the nsa was doing, at least according to the Washington Post reporting was sloppy. We learned of more than 2700 of these incidents where unauthorized records were collected. How does this impact the debate . Well, one of the things were finding out is that they keep track of their own mistakes and we, the public, really didnt know much about it. A number like 2700 in a oneyear period sounds like a big number. Members of congress didnt know this as well. No, they didnt. Thats part of why this is sort of shaking things a bit today. Youve got the chairman of the judiciary committee, patrick leahy, saying he wants to hold another hearing because hes frustrated that hes not getting what he calls straightforward answers. We should point out this isnt listening in. This is really those big sweeps of data that sometimes wrap up americans phone numbers when the nsa says its going after a foreign intelligence target. Chris, you say, you argue that this most recent leak may be the most politically significant moment of this debate over surveillance. Why . Well, a couple reasons. One is one that kelly just mentioned which is members of congress were not fully aware of this. When members of congress are not made fully aware of things that they have gone out and defended as many did when the initial snowden leak broke, youre going to see some unhappy members of congress. Youve already seen nancy pelosi say these new revelations are extremely disturbing. Secondly, i think because, peter, this is about things that have happened, that these are mistakes that have been made as opposed to sort of a broad overview of what the program is. Specifics, and kelly is right, its a small number. But specifics can actually be more telling and more hurtful politically because people can hone in on them. Kate, i want to wrap you into this conversation and focus on a different topic thats a little closer to you. Youve been covering the new york city mayoral candidates, the new poll making it clear that this is a runoff between Christine Quinn and bill d de blasio. Even between quinn and d de blasio. Should we brace for any more surprises before the primary . Absolutely. One really interesting thing in this poll was that none of the leading candidates, those being quinn, de blasio and thompson had a majority of their supporters saying they were firmly committed to voting for that candidate. So were going to see these numbers move a lot more. Right now youre seeing d de blasio doing really well. I think thats reflecting a lot of frustration with bloombergs issues, including stop and frisk where we saw a very Critical Court ruling this week. Thompson may still have room to grow right now. Hes tied with de blasio with black voters or leading with a plurality of 40 . They think more black voters may support thompson. Whats more striking about this is if the two of them are 24, 24, that means theres 52 Percentage Points still out there that are up for grabs. Obviously thats got to be the consideration for these candidates. How do we find a strategy that opens ourselves up to the others . Right. First of all, i think when you know theres going to be a runoff and i think no matter whos going to be in it, everyone knows theres going to be a runoff, as kate pointed out, youre looking not just at the day of the primary is but the day the runoff is too and how do you manage your campaign over that time. The point kate makes, though, bill thompson, the only africanamerican candidate in the race, is underperforming drastically among africanamericans. If he can get himself up over 50 , over 60 among black voters, i think he makes a real run at chris quinn for that second runoff spot. Kelly, i want to ask you since you covered anthony weiner, we havent mentioned his name until now for so long when he was in congress, just some of your thoughts as youve witnessed the way this has played out. The thinking was that even if he couldnt get all the way back to win, this would give him a good, firm footing for a future campaign. Doesnt look like its helping him that way. While he has hung in there and continues to go to events on a daily basis and has made the argument to be new york city mayor youve got to be tough and resilient and come back, the question really is when you look at 11 support, people may really be at a point where they understand what the issues were and they just dont want to have him sort of in their living rooms. It is one of those things thats such a short final stretch. No real reason to get out at this point but certainly the rehabilitation that we might have seen really does not appear to be developing, even though some of the moves hes made have been to try to quiet the storm and explain himself a little better but it just doesnt seem like new yorkers are buying it. Kelly, kate, chris, kkc, thanks to you guys very much. Thank you. Yet another example of boston strong. This is 7yearold jane richard. This is really striking. She lost part of her leg in the boston bombing. Here she is now. 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