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MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports September 5, 2017

Provocations to put pressure on the dprk. Another hurricane zone. Florida bracing for impact as Hurricane Irma barrels toward puerto rico and cuba, packing 175mileperhour winds. This just ten days after harvey made landfall and south texas begins a massive recovery effort. The water just started rising from the tub, started rising in the shower first. And we realized it was coming up from underneath, nothing we could do. Too much. It is a massive job. It is all good. And were going to get through this. And good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell. Good to be back where attorney general Jeff Sessions here in washington has Just Announced the termination of the dreamers program, six months from now, unless Congress Acts to renew it. Ending the Obama Program that permitted children brought to the u. S. By their parents to stay without fear of deportation as long as they were enrolled in college or served in the military. To have a lawful system of immigration, that serves the national interest, we cannot have admit everyone who would like to come here. It is just that simple. This despite strong opposition from broad sectors of the Business Community as well as many red state governors. This is just another challenge for congress coming back today, already facing a big september to do list. Kristen welker is at the white house, joseph soberoff has reaction from some dreamers. The rational for deciding to end the dreamer program, despite what the president said recently about loving the dreamers, and that they wont be harmed, this is a pretty abrupt cut in a program with just six months notice. It is, andrea. What we heard today is attorney general Jeff Sessions lay out the legal argument, making the case that this goes against the rule of law. And thereby giving congress six months to try to come up with a fix. A couple of notable points, though, this announcement came from the attorney general, not from the president himself, underscoring just how politically thorny this is. Also highlighting the fact that this is something that the attorney general was really pushing for, andrea. We know that President Trump was internally divided. We know this administration was divided over what exactly to do with the dreamers on the campaign trail, the president promised to scrap daca. Once in office, as you say, he talked about trying to handle this issue with heart. Now, already it is sparking backlash on both sides, taking a live look right now at protesters who are rallying in washington, against this move. Theyre right now on pennsylvania avenue, right in front of trump hotel. Theyre going to go all the way to the department of justice. Their message is that this unfairly treats those who are here, who were brought here illegally as children, but who have lived here for most of their lives and who are now working, going to school, in the words of one immigration advocate, these are model immigrants. Now, on the other side, andrea, you have those on the far right, the president s base, who are infuriated as well. They say this is the president punching this decision to congress, they say he should end daca immediately and hes turning his back on this critical campaign vow. Expect a fierce fight to ensue as Congress Tries to deal with daca and a whole host of other very difficult issues on its plate. We may hear in some fashion from president obama, from former president obama, who said as he was leaving office, in his last news conference, that i think you were at the last q a that if there is one thing he would speak out on, despite his deference to his successor, it would be if there were an end to daca, to the dreamers act. An official who works with former president obama tells me that we should not be surprised if we see president obama get into this fight, if he goes out and voices his opposition to this move. No plans yet have been announced, andrea, that certainly is something that we will be watching for. And if you go back and take a look at what former president obama did with this move, to enact this order for daca, he said, look, congress is not acting on comprehensive Immigration Reform, so im going to take action. The Obama Administration looked at this through a legal prism for months if not years to try to see what type of executive action the president could take at the time he felt as though his hands were tied on a whole host of different issues related to immigration. But this was the one area where the former Obama Administration felt as though it could move to protect these 800,000 socalled dreamers who were brought here as children. But, of course, the counterargument is that former president obama overstepped his authority as president. So thats where the legal issue is really going to be focused on. Well be watching very close through see what, if anything, president obama does in the coming days. As we see the pictures from washington, d. C. , lets go to the west coast where Jacob Soberoff is at cal state fullerton. Youve been talking to dreamers out there understandably concerned. California is a big location for those who have taken part in this deferred action program. Reporter 223,000 of the 800,000 dreamers in the United States are in this, the great state of california. And here at the university of Cal State University fullerton, of the 40,000 students, almost a thousand of those students, 900 of those students are undocumented immigrants, qualified to be dreamers. There are so many dreamers at this campus that in the library, behind me, there is what is called the titan dreamer resource center, for the dreamers on campus to come in and actually get counseling, get other services. Not just as dreamers, but in their everyday life as students. And thats the thing that really hits home when youre here on campus, these are students first. These are family members first. These are workers first. Young man, pablo garcia, i was walking to biology class with, happens to be a dreamer. And he needs to deal with getting to that biology class on this second or third week of school, making sure he gets there in time, and doesnt get late marks. In addition to the fact that he is now by the order of the attorney general of the United States potentially going to be deported from the country, faces that possibility. Over the course of the next six months. What a lot of dreamers on the ground here tell me and talk to me about is what happens in between now and then, what happens if congress does act, lets say, six months to the day from now and there is a fix for daca, deferred action for childhood arrivals, what about the 1400 dreamers every single day whose status actually expires and they need to reapply in order to stay in the country legally. With that status that was granted under the Obama Administration. Thats a big unanswered question we have not heard yet from back on the east coast, over the course of the day here, out on the west coast well see massive organizations as we have over the course of the Immigration Rights movement, all the way back to 20 05, when nearly a Million People marched on the streets of wilshire boulevard toward Downtown Los Angeles. They dont expect that turnout in Downtown Los Angeles today, but a short drive from here, we expect to see people gathering in a little bit and were going to continue to follow that closely. Thank you so much, jacob. A lot earlier, three hours earlier on the west coast, but well see action throughout the day and the president has just issued a statement. Joining me is Maria Theresa kumar, msnbc contributor and michael steele, republican adviser, former spokesman for House Speaker john boehner. Let me share with you what was handed to me. The president issued a written statement as Kristen Welker pointed out earlier letting his attorney general carry the ball on this very controversial issue which has very little support overall in terms of our polling. And is even divided the republican base, we see red state governors, people from iowa, senator grassleys state, agricultural sector, business people, very upset about this, wanting these dreamers to be protected, wanting Seasonal Workers to be protected, wanting Immigration Reform in essence. The statement from the president is that he has to defend the constitution and there is a serious legal question about the legality of this executive order. No question of that. He says i do not favor punishing children, most of whom are now adults for the action of their parents. We must recognize were a nation of opportunity because we are a nation of laws. And he then put s it on the legislative branch, ends by saying it is time for congress to act. Michael steel, first to you on this, congress hasnt acted on broad Immigration Reform, what is the likelihood that this congress will get together in the next six months, which all they have to do with with all they have to do with the break over the holidays as well, and decide on this, which is so highly controversial. They have got to do the budget, they have got to do a continuing resolution, they have got to do the debt ceiling. Top priority is tax reform. Let me also point out, i was on a Conference Call with the department of human services, of homeland security, rather, dhs today, they not only couldnt answer very basic questions, but there is no evidence that the president has done anything legislatively to kick this off with congress. Congress has a tremendous opportunity here. There has been a lack of bipartisan action on immigration going back over a decade. We saw this under president george w. Bush, we saw it under president obama, whatever you think of the legality of this program, the legality of the executive action, and ending it would be a humanitarian catastrophe, economic catastrophe and National Security catastrophe. I think youll see leaders on the hill come together to reach a compromise and get something done. But President Trump cant just walkway from this. His involvement, his support is going to be critical. Look, they said that only president nixon could go to china, maybe only President Trump can preside over actual bipartisan Immigration Reform. Let me share with you something we received from president from senator john mccain about the president s decision and point out that the senator is actually in washington, in his office today, and over the weekend was at a National Security conference in italy. So clearly his brain cancer is not slowing him down. He says President Trumps decision to eliminate daca is the wrong approach to immigration policy at a time when both sides of the aisle need to come together to reform our broken immigration system and secure the border. Maria theresa . Thats right. The fact that this was always daca was always supposed to be a stopgap, temporary until congress got itself in order, thats why it is a twoyear program, you have to go back and get revisited. What trump did is set a mine off in the homes of millions of families now who are not sure what is going to happen to them. And it is also unfortunately putting us in a political puzzle where are we going to get the leadership from the Republican Party that we desperately need. I dont know if thats the case. The fact that the white house did not know how many Daca Recipients today serve in our military, they havent done their basic homework of how close and how intertwined these young people are into our community. The fact that that Jeff Sessions stood there and said in convoluted, the refugee crisis and Central America with these dreamers, that is a false, misleading statement. You just teed that up. One point to circle back, i was on that Conference Call, as i say, and the question was asked, by alan gomez, who is such a deeply invested reporter in all of this, and thoughtful reporter and he asked the question how many are in our military, none in our military, you have to ask the pentagon. That is absolute nonsense. Some of the criteria for daca consideration to be a recipient is to be in the military, to have graduated from high school, have a ged, to have been in congress, to be enrolled in clem college, to have a certificate, youre serving or post serving in the military. We need a frank conversation with the american people. We are basically have identified a group of immigrants that we claim we want. Theyre english speaking, culturely american, they contribute billions of dollars to our taxes, they are actually willing to give their lives for this country. And were saying they are not good enough. And michael, let me just play a little bit more of Jeff Sessions, talking about controlling our borders, which has nothing to do with these people who arrived prior to 2007. Thats right. The effect of this unilateral executive amnesty among other things contributed to a surge of minors at the southern border that yielded terrible humanitarian consequences. It also denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of americans by allowing those same illegal aliens to take those jobs. To say nothing of his use of the word illegal aliens, which is offensive it a lot of people, and not correct, but, michael, the fact is i dont know what hes talk ing about when he talks about the border. This has nothing to do with the border. The surge of folks from Central America to the border in 2014 was not related to daca. I dont think there say credible argument to be made it was. This is one of the reasons that congress is going to have to lead on this issue because members have been grappling with this issue for over a decade, a deep reservoir of knowledge, of information, and a lot of thought given to how we can come together to get things done, both in terms of dealing with these folks, the dreamers, daca situation, but also improving border security, which is separate but important priority. I think what is happened is folks are trying to convolute this idea of open borders with this idea of who we already have here, undocumented, theyre two different issues as is our security concerns. We have to be able to separate those three issues, but, again, this idea hes saying that daca qualified individuals are taking jobs from american workers, no, theyre coming out of the shadows, they have a social social security, they are fairly competing for those jobs. Just to nail this down, thats one of the issues, they gave all of their information, they came out of the shadows, registered, gave family information, fingerprints, and now they are completely exposed after six months to and trusting our government to do right by them. They came out of the shadows. These are young people saying i want to do right by the law, im giving my information and exposing my family. We have to make sure were taking care of them. Which is why, no matter how you feel about president obamas action and the constitutionality of it, we need to deal with the situation, congress is up to the task. Michael steele, thanks so much for kicking this off and our thanks to Kristen Welker and Jacob Soberoff. Military hysteria, Vladimir Putins new warning today about the north korea crisis as the u. S. Accuses the north Korean Leader of begging for war. Youre watching Andrea Mitchell reports on msnbc. Stay with us. No, please, please, oh shrieks in terror heavy breathing and snorting no, no. The running of the bulldogs . Surprising. Whats not surprising . How much money aleia saved by switching to geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Hey grandpa. Hey, kid. Really good to see you. You too. You tell grandma you were going fishing again . Maybe. vo the best things in life keep going. Thats why i got a subaru, too. Introducing the allnew crosstrek. Love is out there. Find it in a subaru crosstrek. President trump is announcing a new arms deal with south korea and japan today. This as the north korean envoy in geneva says that sanctions and pressure will never work. And Vladimir Putin weighing in, signaling strong opposition to a new u. S. Effort at the u. N. To embargo Oil Deliveries to pyongyang. Putin warning against military hysteria in his words to a nation that he claims would, quote, rather eat grass than give up its Nuclear Weapons. On that, he may be true. Joining me now, chris hill, the dean of the Joseph Korbel school of international studies. And msnbc military analyst general barry mccaffrey, retired four star army general. About the military options, the president very importantly had a meeting with his military advisers on sunday after that launch and there was a very strong statement as you saw from defense secretary mattis. Let me play that for you. Any threat to the United States or its territories including guam or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming. We are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, namely north korea that is, as i said, we have many options to do so. General mc

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