Hosting next years g7 at your property. What assurances can you give americans that youre not trying to profit off the presidency . I used to get a lot of money to make speeches. Now i make speeches all the time. Do you know what i get . Zippo. And thats good. People looked at my sites, all good. Some were two hours from an airport, some were four hours, so far away. Some didnt allow this or didnt allow that. With doral, we have a series of magnificent buildings. We call them bungalows. They each hold from 50 to 70, very luxurious rooms with magnificent views, incredible Conference Rooms and restaurants. Its like such a natural. We wouldnt even have to do the work that they did here. The ballrooms are among the biggest in florida and the best. Its brand new. And they want my people wanted it. From my standpoint im not going to make any money. In my opinion, im not going to make any money. I dont want to make money. Joining me now, Nbcs Kelly Odonnell in france. Msnbc political analyst Eugene Robinson, columnist at the Washington Post, gary locke, former commerce secretary and former u. S. Ambassador to china and former governor, and nick burnses, professor of diplomacy and International Relations at the Harvard Kennedy school and former u. S. Ambassador to nato. Kelly o, youre there in france. More than passing strange when the president , asked about potential conflicts of interest by our white house chief correspondent Hallie Jackson didnt only defer and say theres a long time between now and then, he went into a fullblown real estate advertisement. He was the chamber of commerce director for miami and the doral. Reporter it was the pitch meeting. He did it twice today. Seemed like a bulletin earlier when one of his sidebyside meetings he dropped the first hint. Today he went into greater detail, even informing that there had been site surveys at 12 locations and he was putting the close on with talking about some of the benefits, as he sees it, especially coming off now attending three of these g7 summit summits, he has some understanding of what each of the delegations need. Thats what he was talking about. He largely ignored the issue that he still has financial ties to the Trump Properties even though he doesnt personally run them. So he put that aside. Then he made an assertion that is hard to really get our arms around as how he gets to this number, claiming that he has had lost opportunity of doing paid speeches and other deals where he claims that by running for and becoming president he has lost 3 to 5 billion, a number where we just cant get to the math to back that up. Certainly, the president had potential for deals in his private life that we cant put a number on, but hes also now been put on the world stage in a way that very few businessmen have ever been able to reach. None has become president , as he has. So, the fact that he still has these business ties is something that is part of the challenges to the using the clause that people have raised. He did not address the issue of his family or Family Company potentially benefiting from having World Leaders coming to the United States and paying for services at trumpowned properties. He has, in the past, said the hotel there would pay the government for any foreign based visitors so that there wouldnt be any foreign payment. Of course, remember, if he chooses to go forward with trump doral, were talking about 2020, an election year, florida, sort of his second home, but also very much a battleground state. So it has all the trappings of the president who very much likes to be host, play host and showcase his brands. All of that coming together in one way. Many other substantive headlines in todays activities and in the days weve spent here in france, but this is one of the enduring questions of the trump presidency, the intersection of business and governance and has the president been transparent and appropriate when those two things come head to head . Andrea . When we talk about the Foreign Policy dimensions of all of this, first and foremost, lets talk about iran. Because as we know, zarif, the foreign minister was invited by president macron to come on the outskirts of this conference. He said that it was incorrect reporting, the president did, that he was not surprised by this, that macron and macron confirmed he discussed it with the president the night before and gotten his ac krchlacquiesc it. If the circumstances were correct or were right, i certainly would agree to that. But in the meantime, they have to be good players. You understand what that means. And they cant do what they were saying they were going to do because if they do that, theyll be met with really very violent force. I didnt think it was appropriate to meet yesterday. Too soon. So president macron wants to be the broker here. He and the both the president and secretary of state have said there could be talks with no preconditions but for some reason the time is not right. What is your takeaway, nick burns . Clearly, it would be positive to have a diplomatic with iran. We havent had one since president obama left office. You want to talk about the Iran Nuclear Deal that the president left. You want to talk about irans violent activities in yemen and in iraq and syria and lebanon that are of great concern to u. S. And israel and the arab states. This is a difficult one for President Trump. I think if the channel is open, its good for the United States to have those conversations. Im not sure that the iranians will be ready. As you know, andrea, a divided government between the Supreme Leader and revolutionary guard on one hand and president rouhani on the other. The president was talking about war with north korea in 2017. Were better off having diplomatic conversations. If he can replay that, its positive. He will have to strike a tough bargain with the iranians about whats on the table. Zarif has been sanctioned as well as the revolutionary guard by the state department. So, you know, both the political and the military parts of the iranian government are under sanction right now. The other thing the president said about talking to iran is he sees iran as he has said in the past about north korea, as another real estate deal. Lets watch this. I actually had friends years ago, many years ago, in iran and they were building houses and housing and Office Buildings and apartment houses and they did very well. They made a lot of money. To this day, theyre not exactly the youngest developers anymore. Its a country with tremendous potential. Eugene robbenson, go back to winston churchill, jaw jaws better than war war. It is better. And i said that about the president s interaction with north korea and ill say it about iran. If they had a meeting and start talking, that would be great. I agree with nick burns thats kind of unlikely if the president believes that his play book with north korea, which involved dealing with one absolute ruler, who had the power to say, you know, lets sit down and talk. And also a meeting with the president of the United States, kim jongun. The iranian situation is much different with these two almost diametrically opposed. And i dont think the hard liners want to sit down with President Trump or ease up in any way with their canceling of the nuclear deal. I dont think this is a particularly promising initiative. But it would be great if it worked out. Ambassador gary locke, i want to ask you about china. You know it so well, having been posted there. The president says in the vice premiers statements last night, they want a deal. Then he talks about, in answer to a question about, the back and forth and reversals and volatility in the markets as a result about all the things he said, pro and con tariffs, and this is the president s answer. The back and forth and the changing of statements from yourself, so that sorry. Its the way i negotiate. Look. Here is the story. I have people say oh, just make a deal. Make a deal. They dont have the guts. And they dont have the wisdom to know that you cant continue to go on where a country is taking 500 billion not million. Billion, with a b out every single year. 500 billion. You just cant do that. Somebody had to do this. And he was the chosen one, i guess. Ambassador locke, isnt it true that president xi can outwait donald trump . Both sides need to reach an agreement. Its hurting both countries and the pocketbooks of americans. Federal reserve indicated the current tariffs already in place, never mind the ones contemplate contemplated or the ones that might be increased are costing the average American Household 1,000 a year. With the tariffs were going to impose on chinese goods starting september 1 and later on in december at the middle of the Christmas Shopping season, thats going to cost the American Consumers even more. So, both sides need to reach a deal. But for the president to be so shocked and surprised and offended that china would retaliate with its tariffs on 75 billion of u. S. Goods going into china after he announced that tariffs were going to go into place on some 300 billion of chinese goods coming into the United States effective september 1, for him to be outraged really shows arrogance or lack of understanding of what happens in a trade war. I mean, you cant keep lobing shots at the other side and not expect the other side to retaliate at some point. Its in the interest of both sides to get a deal. This president , i think he loves trade wars. He thinks its costing china. Its really costing the American Consumers, american businesses and with china retaliating, with tariffs on u. S. Made automobiles. 25 of the bmws made in South Carolina are exported to china. We build and ship over to china some 250,000 made in usa automobiles fords, gms and bmws to china every single year. This tariff that china is now putting on u. S. Automobiles is really going to cut down on the production of u. S. Automobiles. The export of u. S. Automobiles and, therefore, american jobs. Eugene, what about the president says about Climate Change . Watch this. He is calling himself an environmentalist. I feel that the United States has tremendous wealth. The wealth is under its feet. Ive made that wealth come alive. Its tremendous wealth. And lng is being sought all over the world. Im not going to lose that wealth on dreams, on windmills, which frankly arent working too well. Im not going to lose t josh, in a nutshell, i want the cleanest water on earth. I want the cleanest air on earth. Thats what were doing. Im an environmentalist. The president did not even attend g7 meeting on climate. They did not have a communique and similarly in osaka they took climate out of the communique this summer at the insistence of the u. S. He didnt attend and didnt have a communique here. If the president were an environmentalist, i would think the environment would disagree. On the most pressing and Global Environmental issue that faces us today, Climate Change. There is no g7. Its a g6. The United States is totally on the sidelines. As you said, the president didnt even go to the environment part of the meeting. He believes Climate Change is a hoax. And so it was just words. I mean, it was just noise coming from the president , at least from the perspective of all the other governments there, who frankly the other leaders seem to have said okay, you know, were never going to get anywhere with trump on Climate Change. We will do what we do, and if he doesnt want to come to the meeting, then thats probably all right. Which was to agree separately helping them deal with the amazon fires. Leading edge of work on the environment, this must have struck you as passing strange. For him to say he is an environmentalist is absolutely absurd and defies belief. The rest of the world is moving aggressively to combat Climate Change without the United States. In fact, many states in america are going it alone and forming pacts and coalitions among the other states and ignoring the Trump Administration in this effo effort. Theyre seeing and feeling the impacts of Climate Change from droughts to severe flooding. So weve got to be very, very serious about this. Even if the president wont. He certainly is not an environmentalist. Former governor, thank you so much. Kelly odonnell there in france, Eugene Robinson as well. And if youll stay for a bit, well talk about russia and Vladimir Putin come iing to the. Could that come in the form of a personal invite to next years summit in miami . Despite the ongoing cyber threat that russia poses to our National Security . A poses to our National Security . Upport, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. Stop chantix and get help right away if you have changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions, seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking, or lifethreatening allergic and skin reactions. 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Is it politically popular for me to say that . Possibly not. I think a lot of people would agree with me, frankly, but possibly not. I do nothing for politics. I know a lot of you are going to smile at that. I do nothing for politics. I do whats right. Why did you give the misleading statement that prussia outsmarted president obama . He did. When other countries said the reason russia was kicked out because they annexed crimea . I know you like president obama but it was annexed during president obamas term. Harvard kennedy school, former u. S. Ambassador to nato and here on set, david ignatius, Washington Post columnist and msnbc contributor. David, first of all, she was absolutely correct, according to Evelyn Farkas just on with craig melvin in the previous hour, she was in the situation room, a consensus decision by the g7 to kick putin out of the g8 because of the annexation of crimea. Its strange, part of trumps obama obsession. The idea for blaming obama for the invasion of another country by russias president Vladimir Putin, as if thats obamas fault is no good explanation, as you and evelyn have made clear, this was a collective decision. Europe was reacting to violation of european borders. Europeans these days feel more strongly about it than the United States does under President Trump. But the obama twist here is so strange. It just seems clear that trump would like, you know, his g7 next year to be even bigger and better. Its a g8 you know, he just wants to do something thats his. And, of course, one of his properties. Nick burns, the fact that this president would reengage Vladimir Putin during an election year, when other parts of the government are trying to, you know, counteract anticipated russian interference again with our elections is just so stunning. You have Vladimir Putin in miami on a trump property being, you know, reinvited into the fold. Well, thats right. And this is going to be during an election campaign. Obviously, the democratic nominee will have been selected by then. And for the American People to see in our country honored at a g7 meeting the person who engineered the interference in our elections in 2016 and midterms in 2018, i think, will hurt donald trump. Its part of his, i agree with david, strange fascination with authoritarian leaders. He admires them. The g7 is a group of democracies. Thats what it was created for. President clinton brought president Boris Yelstin into the g7 in 95. I was part of that discussion, because russia was trying to be a democracy. Russia is far from a democracy. Ambassadors part of the g20, part of the u. N. Security council. Theres no reason to do this on Foreign Policy grounds, particularly given what the russians did in crimea in march 2014. Its just