Supreme court. We want all voting to stop. We dont want them to find any ballots at 4 00 in the morning and add them to the list, okay . At this hour the electoral count is now biden 227, donald trump 213. Neither reaching the required 270 electoral votes to win the white house. Key battleground states that remain undecided include michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, nevada, georgia, and arizona. On capitol hill, democrats have a diminishing chance of regaining the senate. They even lost seats in the house. Biden has an easier path to get over the top but President Trump could still eke out a victory and is threatening legal challenges that could delay a resolution for weeks if not longer. Joe biden told supporters he feels good about where things stand and that the decision is up to the American People, not either of the candidates to declare a victory. I am here to tell you tonight, we believe were on track to win this election. [ cheers and applause ] were going to have to be patient until we the hard work of tallying the votes is finished. And it aint over til every vote is counted, every ballot is counted. And more ballots have been counted. Nbc news now projects that maine goes to biden, three of maines electoral votes. That is a split. There are four electoral votes, there is one Congressional District that goes to donald trump. Msnbcs ali velshi is at the big board with a look at where things stand. Ali, maine is the latest. Good morning, andrea. If donald trump had one of these, he might be a little less enthusiastic about calling it for himself. 228 in the biden column, 213 in the donald trump column. Youve just given four of those, three of the congressional votes in maine to donald trump. So this is what were looking at right now. There are 26 combinations of these gray states left for joe biden to win the presidency. There are 19 combinations left for donald trump. Now, lets take a look at how these are looking right now. We are still looking, you talked about all the states were looking for. Lets talk about the remaining vote in nevada. 86 are in. Were still looking at a very large chunk of votes coming in in the las vegas area, a little bit in reno. In las vegas, theres a difference of 60,000 separate them in clark county. Were still waiting for 16 of the vote to come in. Lets take a look at a few other places where the vote is going to be important. In georgia, again, the trump lead there statewide is 101,000 votes. Seems like a lot, but lets take a look where the remaining vote is. Again, its in the atlanta area, in cobb county outside atlanta and Dekalb County outside of atlanta, not Fulton County where atlanta is. But between these two counties, well over 140,000 votes still to come in and in those, heavily africanamerican and otherwise more progressive parts of georgia, that could swing toward donald trump. Pennsylvania, weve been talking about this for weeks, pittsburgh, allegheny county, has started to give us some more results this morning. But were still expecting Something Like 2 million votes in pennsylvania. Many of those are mailin votes. Many of those are expected to break for joe biden. Look at these counties around philadelphia. Youre familiar with them, andrea. Youve got Montgomery County breaking for joe biden, 6038. Chester county breaking for biden, 5345, a little closer. Youve got delaware county, south of philadelphia, 5939. Youve got Philadelphia County itself, take a look at this, thats actually closer than you would expect. 77 for biden, 21 for trump. But 62 are in. There are so many votes, these are advance votes, mailin votes that havent been counted, that youre going to end up with much more of a difference here. Take a look at this map, these bubbles, as you know, show whats remaining to be counted. Allegheny county, pittsburgh, lots of votes remaining to be counted there. Philadelphia county and the collar counties around philadelphia, lots of votes to be counted there. Harrisburg, a little smaller. The bottom line, lots to be counted there, and the same story in michigan. Weve got votes outstanding in wayne county which is right around detroit. That is, again, an area that is expected to break for joe biden. So with 92 in there, youve got a 31,000vote lead for joe biden. And thats only expected to increase when these votes come in, andrea. Ali velshi with the very latest. And with so many states still in play, both sides claim they have the edge. Who has the advantage given the outstanding vote . David plouffe ran president obamas successful 2008 president ial campaign, joins me now. The count, 227 for joe biden, 213 for donald trump. David, a lot has changed since we spoke monday afternoon. What do you expect to see in the coming hours and into the evening of this incredible ongoing saga of our election . Well, andrea, theres going to be a lot to unpack in the days and weeks ahead about what happened in these states. Right now, joe biden is in the lead. Donald trump is talking about stopping counting. If the counting stopped, joe biden would be the next president of the United States, and hes going to be. I think we see the lead in michigan growing. Expectations are, as we again the count, the mailin ballots in pennsylvania, again, in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, these are all ballots that were cast in some cases weeks and weeks ago but by state law they were prevented from being counted until today. Georgia will be very close. Arizona may tighten but i expect joe biden to maintain his lead there. And that second Congressional District of nebraska, certain scenarios are very important. This is now, joe biden is in a commanding position from an Electoral College standpoint. I think we just have to wait and see. Looks like well get most of the vote in georgia today, most of the vote in arizona today. We may not get the whole vote in pennsylvania. Joe biden is ahead in the states he needs to be ahead in to get to 270 electoral votes and maybe quite a bit north of that. It does seem that joe biden underperformed with some key groups in pennsylvania. I was just talking to a philadelphia elected official or someone working with an elected official there who said that they are still trying to figure out why votes they think exist from philadelphia have not been recorded by the secretary of states office, that there is a lag, if you will, not sure why that happens, nothing really mysterious about it, its between democrats and democrats so theres no conspiracy here, its just process. But in any case, right now it is clear that right now, it doesnt look as though philadelphia produced any more and perhaps even less of a black vote out of the city of philadelphia than it gave to Hillary Clinton which we know was not enough to withstand all of the donald trump vote. That is not what we expected. Well, well see, andrea. I mean, this is a tough election to unpack because you have all of the inperson votes. In pennsylvania, thats what we know so far. So even in philadelphia, i would expect those biden margins to expand. Trump, you know, got what he got on early vote im sorry, on election day, in places like milwaukee, in places like philadelphia, but i expect that margin to expand. Clearly you saw the turnout in milwaukee was enough. Same thing in detroit when we see all that. Listen, there was a sevenpoint swing nationally in suburban counties from 16 to 20 and i think thats the most important signal component in joe bidens advantage position. The other thing i would point out is, joe biden is going to be our next president , and young people delivered this victory for joe biden. His margin amongst young people, people under 29, is going to be higher than Barack Obamas in 2012. So i think the reason the race is closer than it looked in polling, and you and i talked about this, ive talked to a lot of your colleagues, a couple of things had to happen to make this a close race. One, the polls had to be off, and they were. In some states like arizona, not terribly off. In others, you might see misses of 5 to 6. But trump needed to get strong election day turnout, which he did. He won wisconsin four years ago. Hes going to lose wisconsin, getting over 1,600,000 votes. The Trump Campaign did a very good job of turning out their voters but joe biden was able to withstand that. Why didnt the democrats do a good job of turning out their voters . Im just they did, andrea. They were able to get over 1,600,000 votes in wisconsin which is a crap ton of votes. Well be able to unpack what happened, where turnout was off and where it wasnt. Donald trump delivered a big turnout. Well have the biggest turnout in president ial history in over a hundred years. We shouldnt focus on how this differs from the polls. That isnt what im asking. Im asking is there something fundamentally wrong theres something fundamentally wrong in our politics in both parties, but arguably donald trump has been breaking all the norms for four years, yet he has higher fafsh favorables in the exit polls than four years ago when he got more votes. Is there something wrong with the messaging, the structure, or the organization of the Democratic Party, that someone who democrats think is so wrong did so well . Well, it is sad and distressing to me that this many people look at donald trump and say i want to sign up for a second term. But we are a very divided country. I think, listen, when all the votes are counted, joe bidens likely to have a bigger popular vote win than barack obama had in 2012. Yet we had a convincing Electoral College victory. I think joe biden is going to win the Electoral College but it will be more narrow. So listen, donald trump is a turnout machine in 2020. I think thats what we saw. Joe biden was able to withstand that. But yeah, i think when you look at this many people around the country deciding that someone who messed up the pandemic, who has caused a lot of death, crashed the economy, clearly is stoking racial divides, is a misogynist, is a narcissist, i would like to see that person get 35 of the vote, not 47 or 48 of the vote. But this is a closely divided country and theres going to be a lot of lessons Going Forward about how the democrats can take advantage of some of the positive demographic trends. But you cant just count on that. The good news if youre a democrat, i think, in 2018 and 2020, you were able to win states like wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, looks like arizona, perhaps georgia. So there are positive developments out there. David plouffe, thanks very much, thanks for engaging, always good to have an afteraction report from an expert. Thank you. And the biden camp is expressing confidence about michigan and pennsylvania. Who has the best shot to carry those states . Joining us, congresswoman Debbie Dingell and congresswoman madeleine dean. Welcome, both. Weve been talking about pennsylvania, congresswoman dean, let me ask you, youre from one of the collar counties and we expect they will deliver a lot of this mailin vote. Are you confident, as the biden camp is today, that youll carry pennsylvania . Im feeling very optimistic. Thank you for having me, and hello, debbie, great to see you and the great work youve been doing. Im feeling confident and optimistic but we have to let people finish the work ahead of us. Its very hard to practice but ive been saying all along, we have to have patience and let the people do the work of counting all the votes. Here in Montgomery County, as you were pointing out on the board, we still have 60,000 mailin ballots, a little more than that, to be counted in Montgomery County. And joe biden, Kamala Harris, have a 6137 point lead. I expect that lead will continue and widen. Im feeling optimistic. We have to do our due diligence, we have to be patient. This process is working and it is secure and its interesting that donald trump would like to stop the count. And congresswoman dingell, and i should be congratulating both of you because both of you came through with flying colors, but congresswoman dingell, what about michigan . Were seeing the biden vote coming in throughout the morning. What do you think, when do you think the state can be called . I think our secretary of state said it takes until friday. I think we could know as early as Late Afternoon today. Were waiting for the counts to come in for a number of the larger cities, which just as madeleine said, its the absentee ballots were counting, and their split has been almost identical to pennsylvania, 61 for joe biden, 38, 39 for President Trump. Look, andrea, as you know, i refused to say what was going to happen, what i thought would happen in this election until over the weekend. I have been out there, ive been talking to people, ive been looking at the numbers. Women came out and made a difference, voted in far larger numbers than they did four years ago. And as madeleine said, and i love being with her, love being with you, none of us have been to bed, probably, in two days, but when all the votes are counted, and we all that to every Single Person across the country, to count them in a methodical, calm, secure way, joe bidens going to win michigan. Youre waiting on detroit, flint, grand rapids. Where do you see it coming down, whats your best estimate now, based on what you know is coming in . I think it will be ive always said maybe 4 , 5 . I think that it is going to be it will be larger than donald trump won michigan four years ago. And its going to be a clear it will be by a large enough amount that it will not get an automatic recount, though we know the lawyers are there. Everybody has to stay calm and let the votes be counted. All of us, republicans and democrats, have to learn how split this country this and why, and we all have a responsibility to try to do something to bring us together when this is done, no matter who is president , though i think it will be joe biden. If joe biden is elected, he is going to face the same problem a newlyelected democrat had, hes got Mitch Mcconnell who will vow from day one to block any of his initiatives. Let me ask you, congresswoman dingell. Well, for starters, that number will be even smaller. I think that many of those senators are going to be looking at elections in two years from now. And this is where i say to the American People, you need to tell the people that represent you, you want action. I know they want action on a heroes bill. There are people that are republicans and democrats that are hurting from covid right now. They are desperate for the United States congress to stop this partisan bickering and get something done thats going to help them. There are a number of issues that weve got to roll up our sleeves. And people like madeleine and i who are committed to working with our colleagues across the aisle are going to do just that. And thats our job. And i think joe biden will do that. Hes said he will be the president of everybody. He has a history of bringing people together. Thank you both for joining us. I know its been a long night for everybody. Thank you, congresswoman dean and Debbie Dingell, of course. I want to turn to nbcs blayne alexander in atlanta where were getting updates from georgias secretary of state. Blayne, what are you hearing . Reporter andrea, we just heard from the secretary of state about 30 minutes ago. He told us a number of things. One, that there are about 200,000 outstanding votes still waiting to be counted and tabulated and scanned here and the vast majority of those are absentee ballots and the vast majority of those come from Fulton County and Dekalb County, counties were watching very closely. Both are in metro atlanta. Thats significant because when you look at georgias map, you usually see a vast majority of red. But you see a blue clump kind of right there in the middle, and that is metro atlanta. And thats the area that gives democrats so much hope for flipping this state blue. It typically breaks democratic. Once we get those votes counted from fulton and dekalb counties, of course, its expected to give at least a moderate boost to the democrats. When we talked to the the secretary of state, he said that he anticipates having all the votes counted by the end of the day. But again, andrea, that all comes down to the counties. Thats really what the secretary of state tried to emphasize. We know that both fulton and dekalb counties, speaking with officials there, theyre working diligently. Fulton county had people counting, scanning all morning long to get those ballots tabulated but the state can only do as much as the county can do. I asked him, does he believe theyre on time. He said, despite what appear to be delays, he does believe their timing is right where he expects it to be and he hopes to have those numbers by the end of the day, andrea. Blayne alexander, thank you so much. Lets go to nbc correspondent Peter Alexander and kristen welker. The president said in the middle of the night that millions of votes shouldnt be counted, including pennsylvania. Is he taking further action today or is he backing off . Reporter andrea, in the last 20 minutes on twitter he wrote, they are finding biden votes all over the place in pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan. He says, so bad for our country. To be clear, theyre not finding biden votes all over the place, they are counting biden votes and trump votes in many parts of the country right now including those states, as they try to tally up the conclusive numbers from those locations right now. Thats just one of whats been a series of sort of points of disinformation from the president as it relates to what he said at 2 30 in the morning in those remarks, again, prematurely and falsely declaring victory. This morning, twitter flagged him with one of those warning labels calling the content of one of his tweets misleading and disputed when he said, among other things, about the numbers that hes seeing right now, he said that his numbers, his lead was, quote, magically disappearing, as he described it, saying surprise ballot dumps