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To me, it says that the issues, the foreign aid money, for ukraine, for israel, for taiwan, humanitarian assistance, that those things were actually important to these members of congress, and so they were willing to forgo, you know, some hours of some days of their recess to get it done. Yeah, its always a reminder that when they actually want to do the work, they can do the work. To see you, my friend. Well see you tomorrow, and good evening to you at home. Tonight, a big day on capitol hill, as we were just saying. The house passing a set of long awaited foreign aid bills. Now, make johnsons speaker job is in jeopardy. We are live with democratic Congresswoman Becca ballot. Why she voted no on Legislation Funding is real. Plus, from the kremlin to congress, the chilling impact of russian Propaganda Seeping into american politics with the far right republicans taking the bait and a growing crackdown on protests in this country. Daughter of Congresswoman Ilhan omar and her first tv interview since her arrest during April Palestinian protest at Columbia University. Lets do it. So after months of delay and dysfunction, house Speaker Mike Johnson finally managed to push through a long stalled aid package. Just hours ago, in a bipartisan vote, lawmakers approved three separate bills that will send billions of dollars in foreign aid to ukraine, israel, and taiwan. A fourth bill, including a variety of National Security priorities, like a prospective tiktok ban and sanctions on russia, china, and iran also cleared the chamber. The senate is expected to take up the package, which totals over 95 billion early next week. That said, i highly doubt that mike johnson is taking a victory lap tonight. Publican speaker is staring down growing threats of an ouster from members of his own caucus, with the motion to vacate that could come as soon as House Lawmakers return from a weeklong recess. But republicans are the only ones dealing with some intraparty fractures. Although democrats held a mostly united front today, 37 members of the party voted against the israel bill, which would send roughly 13 billion in Military Assistance to the u. S. Ally. Progressives and others say the view, they view the vote as a make or break moral choice, one similar to congresss vote to authorize and fund the iraq war back in 2003. They argue that sending more Offensive Weaponry to israel without conditions amounts to an endorsement of Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahus handling of the war, which has left 30,000 palestinians dead and millions on the brink of famine in what some have called a plausible genocide. The Coalition Says they hope todays vote serves as a warning to president biden, underscoring the depth of discontent over his continued unconditional support for israel. 20 of those lawmakers who voted no explained their reasoning in a new joint statement, saying in part, quote, this is a moment of great consequence, the world is watching. If Congress Votes to continue to supply offensive military aid, we make ourselves complicit in this tragedy. Most americans do not want our government to write a blank check to further Prime Minister netanyahus war in gaza. The United States needs to help israel find a path towards peace. Lets discuss with one of the lawmakers behind that statement, Congresswoman Becca ballot, a democrat from vermont. Congresswoman, thank you so much for making time for us. I know today has been a very long day for all of you. Greatly appreciate you joining us. First, explain to our viewers why you specifically chose to vote no on this bill, and whether or not this was a difficult or an easy choice for you. So i did vote no, and i voted no because i felt strongly that there needs to be a more complete conversation happening right now around israel and the war in gaza. And what ive learned from speaking deeply with my constituents back home is that most of my constituents support israel, they support israel as a sovereign jewish state. They want to make sure it is safe and secure. And they also cannot stomach what has been happening in netanyahus war against gaza. So we had to hold both things, and i felt strongly that, Okaying Offensive Military Aid right now would be essentially to greenlight what would be happening in. Netanyahu has not been secret about his plans to invade rafah. We know that theres over 1 million palestinians sheltering there. And i didnt feel like it was an opportunity for us to give voice to what so Many Americans are feeling right now. They want the United States to push israel towards peace, and although we also made a strong statement regarding the hostage, we want the hostages released, we want a lasting ceasefire, we felt like this was an opportunity to make a very strong statement about how there needs to be a Course Correction when it comes to netanyahus war in gaza. Do you feel that some members of your caucus, congresswoman, share your sentiment, agree with your position, but perhaps are afraid to take a public stance on this issue for whatever reason, be it political, or their own electoral chances . But what is the sentiment, or the consensus among your party . I really appreciate that. All i can tell you is that i talked with many, many members of my caucus in the last few days as we were preparing for the no vote, and what we heard over and over and over again was, we know there needs to be a change. There needs to be a Course Correction. I think youre going to see more and more members in the coming days making their own statements, coupling their yes vote with a very strong statements about what we cannot see any longer. I cannot express to you the number of people who had said this to us. We know that we are 37 who were willing to go on the record. There are many more that are not at all happy with the way netanyahu has been conducting this war. Many, many civilians, obviously, have died, but also, there is horrible suffering going on right now in gaza, and we do not feel that netanyahu and his government has done enough to get aid through. You use the word Course Correction, and trying to get the Prime Minister of israel to avoid what is happening in gaza and change course there. You and your colleagues have also said that you hope this sends a message to our president , president biden, to change course. Weve seen a wave of uncommitted voters also trying to accomplish that goal throughout the Democratic Primary season. Talk to us about that, and what you would like to see from the president , and what message this vote today, although it passed, this block of voters who said no, what message does this send to the president from the Democratic Caucus and also from a general election perspective . What i think the message is, and should be, is that we as members of congress are taking our role, both as the, the people who hold the Purse Strings and the folks who are representing our constituents, we are taking those roles seriously to say that what americans are expressing right now is an incredible frustration and anger at the way the war is being conducted, and that we have a voice that we had to use. Now, that being said, i also want to be really clear. We are also a strong voice to say if you are not happy with the way things are going in gaza, if you are not happy with the leadership in israel, the antidote to that is to vote for biden. It is not to vote for trump. So those folks who, i know, are wanting to have their voices heard, being uncommitted, the stark choice ahead of us is if you vote for donald trump, you are enabling netanyahu. If you vote for joe biden, here is someone who is committed. He has said it publicly. Hes committed to a two state solution, lasting peace, sovereignty for both israelis and for palestinians. Thats what im focused on. All right, democratic Congresswoman Becca balint of vermont, thank you so much for your commentary and insights, congresswoman. Really appreciate it. Thank you so much. So it lets continue this conversation now with my saturday night panel. Florida republican congressman david jolly and msnbc political analyst eugene daniels, playbook coauthor and right house reporter for politico. He is also an msnbc political contributor. Its great to have both of you with us. David, ill start with you. Some democrats comparing this moment with the israel aid debate to a moral position back in 2003 against the iraq war. What do you make of that, and the number of democrats who came out today to vote no on what once wouldve been almost an automatic yes vote in support of funding more money to israel . Thats right. The no votes today are significant, ayman. Look, i think its clear that the policy of the United States is still overwhelmingly pro israel, to ally with israel in their current war. But we cannot overlook that the domestic politics, particularly within the democratic party, have shifted from what weve seen over the past several decades, and you see joe biden realizing that and trying to Pay Attention to those concerns. We have seen this in vote at the bell xbox during the biden Democratic Primary race. Were now seeing it on the floor of the u. S. Congress. I think the white house is doing the best they can to attend to these concerns without actually breaking that Strong Alliance with israel. I suspect this conversation, though, is going to dog joe biden all the way through november. Lets talk about that for a moment, eugene. Resident biden has been pushing congress to take action for months how much of a win is this for his administration that he will actually want to take credit for . Yeah, i mean, and his statement afterward, right, it wasnt a victory lap, but, like, inc. You guys for doing your job lap, i guess, which is probably what were going to keep seeing from the administration, you know, as this has toiled and toiled for months. The thing that he and his aides have said both publicly and to us on background and privately is that this is on then. This is on congress. They dont want to stay as involved. But where you saw their hands, and where they might grow a little bit, is convincing mike johnson, the speaker of the house, how important ukraine aid was, right . He became speaker, they brought into the Situation Room in the white house. They went through all of the Different Reasons why aid was important. Every single time that he came to the white house or they had a. I. D. S. From the Intel Community go to capitol hill to meet with him, they went through line by line, date by date what would happen if ukraine, or ukraine ran out of money, right . And so that might be where they crow a little bit, but i think at this point, what we start to see from this white house over the last months, especially after october 7th, is not trying to brag too much about things that are happening, right . Not trying to brag too much about getting this kind of money to ukraine, or brag, especially, about giving money to israel, because, as david just said, the domestic politics within the party have, are completely different, and thats where youre seeing people vote and talk the way they are. Its a whole different world. Its changing little by little, but its something that this administration and democrats are going to keep talking way past november. David, johnsons detractors have basically now called him a lameduck speaker. They havent yet said when they plan to call for a motion to vacate, or to effectively remove him as a speaker. Let me play for you what he had to say about that right after today. Watch. As ive said many times, i dont walk around this building being worried about a motion to vacate. I had to do my job. We did. Ive done here what i believe to be the right thing, and that is to allow the house to work its will, and, as i said, you do the right thing and you let the chips fall where they may. All right, so, i mean, johnson trying to play it cool there, right . Hes like, hey, i got to do what i got to do. But how much do you think this constant threat of him losing his job is actually preventing him from effectively doing his job . Yeah, first, look, credit where credit is due. Were seeing mike johnson mature a little bit in this job. Now, hes still a hardline conservative, but he has decided to lead in this moment, and you saw democrats recognize that and offer support. I have long believed that mike johnson is not the speaker of the house come january. Largely because its probably Hakeem Jeffries. But even if republicans keep the majority, i think thats where you see mike johnson come up short with the votes. If they were to call for a motion to vacate now, and it appears that they will, i suspect democrats will back mike johnson, and the reason why, ayman, is this. There is very little legislation of consequence between now and the end of the year. On matters that really do count, including keeping the government open past october 1. Johnson has shown us that hes willing to work with democrats to make that happen. So i would say to Hakeem Jeffries and democrats, look, its okay to date mike johnson for about seven months. It doesnt mean you have to marry him, right . This is going to be a short term relationship until you take a gamble. I dont think anybody wants disruption at this point. I think mike johnson hangs on through the end of the calendar year. Okay, interesting take on why to stay in a shortterm relationship there. But, eugene, i got to ask you, though, with, i guess, johnsons majority set to shrink even further when lawmakers return to washington to pick up on davids point how much dating do democrats and House Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries and mike johnson have to do, how much do the democrats have to date maga mike . Not long, right . It doesnt have to be long. He can date a couple of democrats, right, because of how thin the majority is going to be. All of this is going to come down to how Hakeem Jeffries feels about it, right . Whether or not he is telling his folks behind closed doors. Hes mentioned this before publicly that as long as mike johnson works with and in good faith, and brought these, most important, the foreign aid bill to the house floor for a vote, that democrats might be, you know, kind of giving him a little flirtation there. We might be interested in dating you. Ill keep this going. And at this point, theres no reason to believe thats not going to happen, because democrats know a couple of things. One, that he has offered, in good faith, in a way that Kevin Mccarthy did not, right . Kevin mccarthy oftentimes was accused of talking out of both sides of his mouth to different, to the white house, to members of congress, and his own party, to different folks in his own party, and also to democrats. But also, democrats know very clearly that if Marjorie Taylor greene and massey and goesr have their way, whoevers next is going to be worse for democrats. They dont think they can work with whoever might be waiting in the wings. So thats kind of where their heads are right now. All right, thanks to the both of you for starting us off tonight. Started up next, doing russias bidding. Top republicans are sounding the alarm as members of their own party push kremlin lies in the halls of congress. Congres. . Nah. Not me. In a relationship. 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