Reaction from to Top Democrats to House RepublicansImpeachment Inquiry inquiry. The inquiry that was launched with no formal vote, no outstanding evidence of wrongdoing, and no hope of being taken seriously by the American People. Here is former House Speaker nancy pelosi, on msnbc earlier. Impeachment is deadly serious. This is a remedy that our founders put in the constitution, to for a rogue official. They could foresee would have a rogue president of the United States they, couldnt foresee that we would have a rogue president , and a rogue senate, a rogue congress. But nonetheless, for them to use this in a frivolous way and that they are, its really a disservice to our country, into our constitution. All right, lets recall what that robe president was, was actually doing back in 2019. Donald trump, using American Taxpayer funded military aid, as leverage, tried to get the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, to dig up dirt on his opponent, joe biden. In a transcript of that phone call came to light, then Speaker Pelosi had no choice but to immediately open Impeachment Inquiry. And that move infuriated that minority leader Kevin Mccarthy. He was supposedly so outraged, because pelosi had not linked her inquiry with a formal vote in the house. Now, in a public letter to pelosi, he asked do you intend to hold a vote of the full house, authorizing your Impeachment Inquiry . By answering no, you would create a process completely devoid of any merit or legitimacy. Im going to repeat that. A process, completely devoid of any merit, or legitimacy. Its pretty rich, considering thats exactly what Kevin Mccarthy did this week. But of course, its really no secret that Kevin Mccarthy contains multitudes of hypocrisys. The real question i have is, why . Why he flipped on impeachment so dramatically . Because putting aside the constitutional implications of what he is doing with this inquiry, his decision is all but certain to impact next year s house elections. There is new reaction from President Biden tonight. What do you think of republicans opening an Impeachment Inquiry into . You lots of luck. Kevin mccarthy, why put your razor thin, five seat House Majority at risk one, that includes 18 republicans who represent districts that President Biden actually won in 2020. The answer is actually pretty simple. He is just simply trying to save his job. As Russell Berman writes in the atlantic, mccarthy does not have the support to open Impeachment Inquiry, through a floor vote, but to avoid a revote from the hardliners, he had to announce an inquiry anyway. And, so for the short term when of maintaining his lead script on the speakers gavel, mccarthy as perhaps doomed his party to electoral disaster. And i say perhaps here, because nothing is ever certain in politics. But, we actually kind of have seen this play out before. Look at 1998. Then House Speaker newt gingrich, who led the successful republican revolution in the 1994 midterms, allowed his disdain for president clinton, and his desperation to remain in power, to override basic political instincts. He and his republicans, chose to spoke stoke the anger of his rightwing base, and impeach clinton for his affair with monica lewinsky, ignoring polls that actually showed an overwhelming majority of americans wanted clinton to remain in office, despite his acts. Gingrichs ego trip resulted another disaster in november, 1998. Republicans ultimately lost five seats in the house, made no gains in the senate, making them the first party since the civil war, to lose seats to the party of an incumbent president , in his second midterm election. And republicans that quickly turned on new gingrich, they forced him to step down as speaker, in the days after that crushing defeat. So, im not a politician, but heres my advice. If i were Kevin Mccarthy, i would be sweating. History doesnt always repeat itself, but, it often rhymes. Joining me now, danny and msnbc legal analyst, and a critical defense Attorney Daniel host of woke a f daily podcast, and coats of the democracy and the new abnormal podcast. And maria teresa msnbc contributor and president and ceo of voto latino. It would have all three of you with us. Danielle, ill start with you. As i noted, the last time republicans ignored the public sentiment, and pursued an impeachment against a democratic president , do you know what happened, the American People hammered them come election season. Do you think Kevin Mccarthy realizes the Political Risk he is taking here . I do, and i also, i disagree with the fact that people arent calling Kevin Mccarthy a hostage. He is not a hostage, a hostage is a victim. He is a willing accomplice to the right wing of his party. He wants power, they promised him power, as long as he would do their bidding. And that is what he is going to. And yes, you are right, history doesnt often repeat itself, but it does rhyme. And it rhymes for looser. He has a five seat, slim majority. He is not going to hold that, in 2024, and he knows it. And so, he has to try to flex now. But he doesnt have the votes, he doesnt have the base, and everyone knows that he is a jellyfish. But you know, go off. So let me ask you this danny, for those of us who have been following this now for months, james comer had an Oversight Committee, he had an investigation, he has been looking into this. What is the legal difference between an Impeachment Inquiry, and the investigation into republicans that they have been doing since day one of their leadership in the house . Is there something different, do they have any more thorny than what theyve had over the past several months . And, why is he catching this as some kind of new twist and turn. Because he is very clear he is like, it may not lead to impeachment, but it is an Impeachment Inquiry. Yeah, ive heard the analogy that just because an Impeachment Inquiry starts, doesnt mean there will be an impeachment. Ive heard that Analogize To Jumping Out of a plane. You cant and jump back into the plane, when youre halfway down, and youre skydiving. [laughter] i cant take credit for, i read it somewhere, i dont remember where. But the point is, the distinction isnt so much legal, as it is political. Because, there is precedent for it by passing the entire Impeachment Inquiry process, and just going straight to impeachment. Almost every present, i think with the exception of obama, since 1981, has had Impeachment Resolutions introduced against him. However, impeachment inquiries, there have only been a handful of president s who have faced them. But, the net reality is that it is really just a political formality, congress can still issue subpoenas, they could have issued subpoenas before. So, the change is really more symbolic. Yeah, i was going to say that. Because really, its about how much these subpoenas can be enforced. Congress does have a subpoena enforcement problem, to be sure. And as difficult as we have seen for them to enforce subpoenas, they have to make referrals to doj, they want to take it to the alternate level. And then, the doj can still declined to prosecute them, because the doj ultimately retains independents. So, the distinction is not so much legal, it is much more political, and probably even more than, that. Symbolic are you suggesting that Kevin Mccarthy has engaged in a political gamesmanship, and yet a theater . I guess i would have to say impossibly this weekend, minority leader Hakeem Jeffries said the house gop is in the midst of a civil war. I mean, its obvious that anyone who is watching this can see. That impeachment, potential government shutdown, are just the latest leaders of this battle, where the extreme right of the party are going to go against the less extreme farright of the party. What is your reaction . Well i think goes back to this idea that, Kevin Mccarthy needs to keep his job at all cost. And he recognizes, while impeachment may be farfetched, he needs to get matt gaetz and the Freedom Caucus in line, to avoid a government shutdown. So he is using this as a strategy, as a tactic to get the most extreme part of his party at the table, to a void of government shutdown. Because you know what voters dont like . They like less than this ability not to impeach a president . What they like less is not getting a paycheck, but they like less is a spiraling economy. So the end of the day, this is a tactic that we have seen. We recognize that right now while the election is right around the corner, we have, right now, a possible government shutdown, at mccarthys front door. And danielle, speaking of the impeachment, as me and mattie were talking about here, the Texas Attorney general ken paxton, he was acquitted on his Impeachment Trial this week. There was a lot of pressure in the campaign that was launched by steve bannon, and other trump allies. If the house ever does vote to impeach biden, i imagine, will we see similar threats directed at republicans in the senate, who are hesitant to fall in line . Absolutely, i mean this Republican Party, thats what they do, is that they threatened one another, right. They use the power of their weaponized base, in order to threaten these people. I mean, we were listening about mitt romneys upcoming book, in the fact that oh, we dont want to vote for impeachment of donald trump, because we are afraid for our families. So, in any way that they can lie over these people, threats of violence, they will. And so, its just, this Republican Party is its not your grandfathers Republican Party, its not your fathers Republican Party, and they need to be called out for what they are doing. That impeachment down in texas, it was a sham. Of what they put together, and the fact that steve bannon could walk in, and just flip the switch, is wild, its wild, and its dangerous. Let me ask you about, just looking at. I dont know how, to an extent you have seen the kind of merits of the conversation around the impeachment itself, and what republicans consider to be evidence. But as a lawyer, what do you make of what has been presented publicly so far, by republicans . Because they keep seeing to the American Public, there is something there. And then when you asked him, when reporters asked a well, whats the evidence . They i, they dont really present anything concrete, definitive and say, here it is, we have the receipts of the 10 Million Dollar bribe that is alleged to have gone to the bidens. There is no hard proof, but as a lawyer, objectively speaking, have you seen anything that you think warrants this Impeachment Inquiry . Yes, and i will summon up quickly. There would be yes, there is evidence of impeachable offenses, if, hunter biden where the president. And he is not. So therefore, the answer is no. There doesnt appear to be any evidence, other than suggestions. We can dive into the evidence. Some of the evidence that joe biden may have profited from Hunter Bidens misdeeds, or alleged misdeeds, or shenanigans, are really little more than rumor, and innuendo at this point. Is there evidence that hunter biden has done notsogreat things . Yes, absolutely. But he is not the president. And that he connection, you need that nexus between hunter biden, and the president. Now, is their rumor and innuendo, sure. And that is the republicans bassist for going forward. They are saying essentially well, there seems to be some smoke, lets go look for some fire. But thats my point really quickly, is that for the last nine months, they have been doing that in these committees. And i said this last night on the program. Hunter biden, if you dont like hunter biden, if you think hundred biden has done something illegal, everyone is saying, clearly he should be held accountable. He is not running for office, he has never been in office. The question, is whether or not and i say they have hunter iespe c t would be totaand for ewhat role do facts even its comple americans, deth are going into this ana right, not so t all the a fight this Impeachment Inquiry. Has productive conversations with forward today. Proposal, and will resume talks monday. 13,000 auto workers, now on strike for a third day. 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