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MSNBCW Ayman July 3, 2024

To watch the Solar Eclipse but i think youre leaving the country with an important lesson. Dont be that guy. Right. Dont be that guy. Thats a life lesson for all of us. We can apply that to so many things that trump does that we could all benefit from. Just show him and just do the exact opposite. Great to see you as always. Thanks so much and enjoy the rest of your evening off. Coming up this hour, israel pulls Ground Troops from southern gaza. New talks for a Truce Happening in cairo. Many see this as a Inflection Point. Is it . President ial pressure. Talking to a House Democrat Who Cosigned A Letter to President Biden demanding he stop sending weapons to israel. Florida moving ahead with an extreme abortion lot and putting abortion axis on the november ballot. Are republicans but in florida in play for democrats . Lets do it. A major shift in israels Military Strategy as its war in gaza officially hits the six month mark after four straight months of fighting. The Israeli Defense forces have now withdrawn their Ground Troops in southern gaza, leaving just one single brigade in the area. The move immediately sparked speculation about the militarys possible motives here. Here is what National Security Council Spokesman john kirby said this morning. Its hard to know exactly what that tells us right now. This was an announcement that they made. I would certainly let them speak to their operations as we understand it, and to the public announcements. Its really just about rest and refit for these trips that have been on the ground performance. Not necessarily that we can tell indicative of a new coming up version for these troops. Theyve been on the ground for four months. The word we are getting is they are tired and they need to be refit. Just hours after those remarks by kirby, israels defense minister confirmed troops were in fact being redirected to rough the for a ground invasion. The Southern City has become to nearly 1. 4 million palestinians after israels Bombardment Force the rest of the gaza strip to flee to that part. As the military readies for the seemingly imminent invasion weve been hearing about, just across the border in egypt, and israeli delegation preparing to take part in the latest round of ceasefire negotiations. The talks which are led by representatives in qatar, egypt and the u. S. , as frustration grows with the actions of israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Saturday, Tens Of Thousands of protesters filled the streets of tel aviv, demanding the Prime Minister actually make a deal to bring home the remaining 129 hostages currently being held by hamas and other palestinian groups. Here in the u. S. , joe biden faces mounting pressure from other democrats over his administrations handling of the war. As i said, it is coming particularly from his own party friday, more than three dozen democratic lawmakers signed a letter urging biden and the Secretary Of State to reconsider the decision to authorize anons package transfer to israel. The letter was notably signed by House Speaker emma rattus, nancy pelosi, a staunch supporter of israel. It calls for the u. S. To hold future weapons transfer is pending an investigation into last weeks world airstrike that killed seven World Kitchen workers. He finds himself increasingly at odds with netanyahu, his party in the majority of the American People. A phone call friday with the Prime Minister, biden won that israel would be facing consequences if it failed to protect civilians and aid workers in gaza. As of tonight, it remains unclear what those consequences might actually be. Senator Chris Van Hollen to, a democrat, had some choice words for the administration today. Lets watch. I was glad to see the president finally say to netanyahu that if you dont follow these you know, my requests, but there will be consequences. But the president and the white house have yet to lay out what consequences they have and want to impose. And weve had a situation where for months, the president has made requests to the netanyahu government. They have ignored those requests. We send more 2000 pound bombs. We can pervert back to that. We have to make sure that when the president requests something, that we have the means to enforce it. Here to kick off the hour, ferdinand monday. Democratic pollster and Vice President and principal of indexing. A republican strategist and both are msnbc political analysts. Great to have you with us. The interesting thing, this is not a conversation about Foreign Policy but about domestic u. S. Politics. You heard the senator say hes unclear what the White House Position is when it cuts to israel as it relates to possible consequences for what it is doing in gaza. If a sitting u. S. Senator from the president s own party is confused over the administrations policy, how did the American People feel watching this play out . First off, we know how critical this debate is when it comes to not only u. S. Policy towards israel, but the implications for the region and how it might spark some sort of a political or International Conflict that could draw the United States in. Its clearly an important debate. Having said that, all sides that i see analyzing the situation tell me that the Democratic Party is nonetheless united as a whole and its support for biden at least according to polls on policy. Democrats are in the 70 to 80 percentile range. Even with his comments there, i dont think it is so much a critique of the Biden Administration as much a hey, events have changed. There has been an Inflection Point by all indications under the administration or the leaders of netanyahu, israel has lost a lot of moral authority. And you see the Biden Administration course correcting. They are now bullish on the ceasefire talk. The ceasefire of Production Holding military aid is an unprecedented event both in this conflict and historically speaking when it comes to the u. S. Israeli relationship and i think President Biden is listening to the comments within the party. Is it having a negative impact on the domestic consideration of his Reelection Campaign . I dont see it yet. I really dont. Susan, as i mentioned, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi has joined those calls to halt web and transfers to israels. She herself has been a long, stalwart supporter of israel. She also now joins with Chuck Schumer who had strong words about the israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. You could say that you now have two of the most Senior Leaders of the Democratic Party who have come out and spoken critically against the israeli Prime Minister. Joe biden may have those feelings as Press Reports suggest that he does have frustrations with the israeli Prime Minister. He has not made this publicly yet in a way that would suggest he is changing course and policy, although we are getting initial reports of that. But what kind of weight does Nancy Pelosis signature on the letter add to the pressure growing on President Biden . As ferdinand was saying, to course correct now. Her signature certainly mattered. The thing that was shocking is that only there were 37 lawmakers following. Thats not a lot when we look for a big movement within any party. And looking at the support. I think a fundamental problem right now between the two leaders is that netanyahu cant believe that the United States isnt all in No Matter What he wants. And joe biden is looking at it saying how is the American Public not 100 behind israel and giving them everything they want . Now it breaks down to because they are playing games off of each other. Especially netanyahu against President Biden, falsely thinking he can make him look weak. Biden is now going to step up i believe and make some demands, or at least require changes from netanyahu, which he may do without a public reprimand from biden. This is pretty tricky but i think right now that President Biden must continue to look strong on this issue. And listen to what is happening at home. To that point, listening to whats happening at home, all polls suggest President Biden has a tremendous amount of support with the Democratic Party. We saw what happened in wisconsin with the uncommitted vote. I guess in wisconsin i forgot what it was called. Unrestricted. Exactly. Unrestricted. The frustration has been growing among some parts of the party. Should he be worried about what just happened in wisconsin which got 50,000 of those unrestricted votes, given the fact that he won wisconsin by 20,000 in 2020 . Know. I will reject the premise a little bit because i think the data is telling a very interesting story. Im giving you facts. Not even opinions of my own. The last 17 polls that weve seen, joe biden is now moving forward. Gaining support in the National Polls that show in spite of how prickly the important debate within the Democratic Party and family is, its not reflecting negatively on him. The Democratic Party by all indications are united. Weve seen all wings, the Bernie Sanders wing, and all of the democrats in other words who make up the different parts of the party supporting and coming out and saying we are solemnly behind President Biden. By contrast on the republican side you see dissension, mitt romney, liz cheney and other senators coming out and saying they are uncomfortable with trump. I dont really see the dissension so much at play when it comes to biden or his standing. However, biden has said earlier he does have to deal with the ramifications of how he handles this problem. He has basically said look, if theres a bad guy here its how Benjamin Netanyahu has handled the situation. Ive had to take unprecedented apps with our ally and until he starts to be a goodfaith actor, there will be consequences. And still you see support in the polls drop for biden specifically around this issue of the way the war is being litigated, i do not think we can say that biden is suffering politically from it because thats not the case in the polling. I dont see most voters talking about this issue are highlighting this issue as a litmus test. Pretty much how much do you think this is policy even see distancing with netanyahu is complicated by the fact that republicans are scheduled to vote this week on a Measure Rebuking President Biden for advocating an immediate cease fire in gaza . I spoke last night to the former state Department Middle east analyst aaron david miller. Heres how he described how republicans are positioning themselves. You have a Republican Party that has emerged as the israel can do no wrong party. Over the Presumptive Republican nominee who considers himself, the most proisraeli president in the history of the universe. Is the gop in lockstep on this issue . They are pretty much in lockstep, but just to go back to what was said, politically, Foreign Policy doesnt make huge movements on president ial races unless its affecting us at home directly. Right now, it kind of feeds into trump when he is talking about it to us versus them and we are over here as he likes to say on the other side of a nice ocean. But the decisions its about the political infighting right now. I think ukraine and israel and taiwan funding gets passed in the house and in the senate. Its something thats kind of Insider Baseball right now that the president doesnt really have to worry about whether republicans are, whether they are in lockstep or not. Thank you to the both of you. I greatly appreciate the discussion as always. Next up, congressman Joe Ball Bowman to discuss groups targeting him and other progressive members of congress. Stay with us. Us. With mildtomoderate covid19 and a highrisk factor for it becoming severe. It does not prevent covid19. My symptoms are mild now, but im not risking it. If its covid, paxlovid. Paxlovid must be taken within the first five days of symptoms, and helps stop the virus from multiplying in your body. 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For months, progressive lawmakers have been vocally denouncing israels disproportionate retaliation in gaza. Today, six months into the war, the view is held by a majority of americans. According to a gallup poll, 55 of americans disapprove of israels military actions in gaza. Thats the majority. As mentioned before the break, moderate democrats including nancy pelosi who are strong supporters of israel have now joined the course. In a letter, the vast President Biden to suspend Weapons Transfers to israel until a fully independent investigation into the world Central Kitchen Convoy Attack is complete. Democratic congressman Joe Palm Open Jamaal Bowman is among those who signed the letter. One of the critiques was its only 37 lawmakers so far.

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