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MSNBCW Breaking Hate May 20, 2019

Enough to get it taken off. Im whats called a former, someone with street credit who has walked in their boots and left that life behind. All across the country, i help extremists disengage before they destroy the lives of others, but sometimes im too late. Tonight a shocking series of discoveries. The fbi found bomb making materials and radioactive elements they believe could be tied to a neonazi group. I never said go out and kill anybody. I said if you must do it, for god sake, do it right. To pull people out of hate in time. Tell me whats going on. Like whats happening . You have to first understand how they got pulled in. I dont know what this is. That can be dangerous. I dont know if its a trap. I dont really know what im walking into. The end game is simply pure unadulterated destruction. On may 19th, 2017, in tampa, florida, a story about a bizarre series of crimes unfolded on the nightly news. With tampa Police Arrived at this smoke shop on friday, he was holding an employee and two customers at gunpoint. Police responded to the hostage crisis and took this 18yearold into custody. There he confessed to a far worse crime. A double homicide. Arthurs admitted he killed his two roommates who he described as neonazis. When Police Arrived at arthurs apartment, what they found was no ordinary crime scene. Inside were neonazi decorations, hordes of white supremacist literature and a framed photograph of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy Mcveigh. They also found the bodies of jeremy and andrew, both shot at close range with a semiautomatic weapon. Police had no idea they had just stumbled on the headquarters of a newly created neonazi hate group. The vision is a terrorist organization thats part of whats it called . Arthurs told investigators he had a falling out with his roommates, who he identified as neonazis. They would stay stuff like they want to go target like blacks. These people, they were not just innocent people. They werent just my roommates is what i mean. Inside the apartment, the bomb squad also discovered explosive components, including homemade fuses and even radioactive material. Arthurs claimed it belonged to a fourth roommate named Brandon Russell, a member of the Florida National guard and the founder. He is the leader of the organization. I was a senior leader. I thought i had heard the name of just about every hate group in america, but i had never heard of adam. What i find about them online is deeply disturbing. Powerful propaganda that highlights their shadowy Para Military organization. Even their name is extreme. It is german for atomic weapons. And from what i can tell, membership is growing. If im going to prevent more kids from falling prey, i need to find out how theyre getting radicalized and recruited in the first place. The grieving family of andrew, one of the victims in the tampa killing, offering to help. While chris and their daughter emily, who live in an ordinary middle class neighborhood outside of boston are in a uniquely tragic position, they lost a loved one twice. First two an extremist ideology. Then to an extremist bullet. From the outside, like my brother was a neonazi and people would message me on face bike saying your brother deserved to die. He was in a neonazi group, but he was a good kid. Youre like, no, those two things can coexist. I want to understand, you know, who was andrew as a kid . What was the trajectory . Can you tell me a little bit about that . He was this little, lovable, red lipped kid. Always drooling and so cuddly. He was compassionate and he had lots of empathy happy birthday to you. But 15 years later, andrew was a conflicted teenager. How can you have these feelings about jews and africanamericans and on the other side be this loving and compassionate person . Between 2012 and 2016, there was a 600 increase in followers of White Nationalist movements on twitter. Most americans probably dont imagine one of them could be a suburban kid from massachusetts, but theyd be wrong. Happy birthday to you. Andrew was a contradiction, handsome, physically fit and outdoorsy. But also socially awkward, selfserious and obsessed with military history, all of which isolated him from kids his own age. I remember when he was a kid. The kids were really making fun of him one day in the culdesac here, and i remember him stomping off and he was on the stove sitting there with his arms around his knees. That picture sticks with you. In 2010 when andrew was 11, walt, a Lieutenant Commander in the United States navy, deployed to iraq for a year and things took a turn for the worse on the home front. Andrew became angry and combative towards his mother and sister. He spent nights camping alone in the woods behind their house and hours isolated in his bedroom. They asked me to take a look around andrews room to see if i could find clues to his dissent that they might have missed. I discovered numerous warning signs. Of National Socialism. The ideology of the nazi party. Only visible to an experienced eye. So this book in particular, a lot of symbology here. The first thing i notice is the 1488. The 14 words of the mantra. The 88 there stands for the eighth letter of the alphabet, hail hitler. I would not know any of that. Your son comes downstairs, and i dont know what this is. This is the nordic root. Its the tree of life. I have tattooed on me. Its covered up now. And the band here is a norwegian black metal band. The singer of this ban went to prison for burning churches. He is very much a National Social list as, you know, is the seed surrounding this band. Thats whats called a wolfs hook or a wolfs angle. Its an old nazi National Socialist symbol for world war ii. Everything i have seen here is a sign that most parents would never know what to look for. I had no clue about that. For the first two years i was involved in the movement 14 and 15 years old. My parents had no idea. One day i was bold enough to come home with a shaved head and tattoo. My parents said, what is this . I said too late. I see so many kids who had a bright future, who were smart, had the support of a family and most people think these are not the kids that get recruited that go down that path. Yeah. Thats not what you think of. Broken homes, alcohol, addiction, abuse, and that certainly happens. But this is the bulk of what i see. And these days, my inbox is flooded with cries for help like these people who fear they are losing their loved ones to white power extremism. Tonight one message stands out. Christian, i was recently very publically outed as a prominent leader of a White National terror cell. This isnt a normal skin head group. It is a cult on steroids with lots of guns. I have two options now. Make it my life and destroy my family or get out. I just dont know how to do the latter. You are my last option. The email was written by an active member of the same group andrew belonged to. He sounds scared, and he wants to talk. What is that . Uh mine, why . Its just that its. Lavender. Yes it is, its for men but i like the smell of it laughs driver relax, its just a bug. Thats not a bug, thats not a bug burke hit and drone. Seen it, covered it. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum if you have a garden you know, weeds are lowdown little scoundrels. Draw the line with roundup. The sure shot wand extends with a protective shield to target weeds precisely and kill them right down to the root. Roundup brand. Trusted for over 40 years. For people 50 and older colat average risk. Ing honey have you seen my glasses . Ive always had a knack for finding things. 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I have a rare chance to learn how this frightening organization linked to the murders of five people in the last two years is radicalizing recruits. I see this as really an opportunity to help people who might turn into active shooters or might be planning a terrorist attack. This is a critical stage. And hopefully it will help stop people from getting killed. Any time somebody tells you that, you know, they were part of a group that murdered people that were preparing for a race war, i take that seriously. I dont know if its a trap. I dont know if this guy is genuine. I dont really know what im walking into. The man who has asked for my help is a leader in the new ranks. He has concerns about revealing his identity, so i agree to obscure his face, his voice and his real name. For now, ill call him richard. So, you know, you reached out to me. Tell me whats going on. Like whats happening . I got caught up in what is basically becoming a White National terrorist group. How does one become a leader in the cell . It just means you are basically the first one in a specific area. You dont tell people to do any particular one thing or another. Its a collection of lone wolves. If you were to estimate how big of an origination is this . I dont think they have more than 40 to 50 people. But 40 to 50, you know, terrorists could cause a lot of damage. Sure. I was watching one of the propaganda videos which, to me, looked exactly like an isis video. What are people learning how to fire automatic weapons doing that for if theyre not preparing for an armed race war . That is what theyre preparing for. Their end game is simply pure, unadulterated destruction. It is a death cult. Are we going to see the day where theyre walking into a school or to a mall or to a government building and, you know, opening fire on everybody . If they are, theyre not going to tell anyone about it until it happens. Given what richard tells me, you might wonder why anyone would join a group as extreme as this. Andrews family tells me he was a lonely kid who had difficulty finding a group of friends or a community he could truly call his own. He didnt pick up on social cues. He couldnt engage in normal conversations like he could kind of play the game with adults but with peers he couldnt. You know, there are a lot of kids that are struggling that dont tell us what theyre going through because they dont want to be seen as broken or odd because its further isolating. What they dont understand is when they grav vat towards these movements, theyre becoming more isolated. As andrew got older, he would spend hours all alone, researching conspiracy theories on the internet. Sandy hook was a setup, right. The holocaust. Men didnt land on the moon. Or the vaccines. You just stare at him like, are you serious . Do you really believe that, andrew . It was so frustrating. Andrew did believe it. And he began advocating his far right ideologies. His family got concerned. Spendsing thousands of private school. Out door Leadership Programs and psychologists. Desperately trying to help their son. Andrew had every resource available. They sacrificed everything. I think every time we talked it was like, what can we do for andrew . Andrew was young and idealistic but socially isolated and confused. Ripe for the picking for hate recruiters on the lookout for new blood. But i still need to find out how andrew found this division or if they found him. I switched to Liberty Mutual, because they let me customize my insurance. And as a fitness junkie, i customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Plants capture co2. What if other kinds of plants captured it too . If these industrial plants had technology that captured carbon like trees we could help lower emissions. 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If you watch one or two videos, cure ration technology will continue feeding you similar content, not based on factual accuracy but on popularity with no reliable guide to help discern whats true and whats not. A persons world view can become poisoned. Thats what happened to andrew. And richard tells me it is what happened to him, too. For me it just started with online activities. You know, just floating around on white boards. There is like a step process where you go from the alt right, then you start to get a little more extreme. Then you get your fullfledged National Socialist. Like andrew, richard tells me hes never had many friends. He went online in search of a brotherhood he could call his own. They automatically accept you for who you are and tell you you are the top dog and you fall for it. You really do. I know exactly how that feels because it happened to me 30 years ago. It was easy for them to put their hooks into me because i was looking for acceptance, and i was willing to do awful things to maintain that level of acceptance. The desire to fight for a cause and community is a power intoxicant for Vulnerable People. Andrew found an obscure onehalf a world away. He became obsessed with a Para Military group in ukraine and watched videos of their exploits online. He saw them as Freedom Fighters battling prorussian separatists. In reality, it is also an infamous neonazi batalion. The Group Submission the group has learned to exploit the internet as an International Recruitment tool. Good evening and good morning to our listeners in the u. S. You are listening to when he was just 16, ukrainian supporters found andrew online and invited him to speak as an expert on their podcast. After andrew died, a journalist gave this recording to the family. Today we have a life discussion with andrew who will discuss with me the situation and the right Wing Movement in the usa. Hello. Good morning. What is the current state of the National Movement in the United States . You know about the fbi, which is the internal Security Police for the United States. They have been doing a lot of work turning different nationalist organizations against each other. There is a change a little bit with donald trump. Hes the most far right politician that we have had in this country in a very long time. And many people have come out in support of him. So this is pretty standard recruitment right here. Theyre empowering him by putting him on these platforms. Yeah. Andrew and i both wanted something we could believe in. I wanted to join the military. I wanted a cause and a purpose. And andrew kind of floundered and hes like thats not cool enough. I need to do something edgier. I think he was intercepted. An adult took that 16yearold kid and manipulated him. Twisted him. Exactly. Thats what the influencers do. They find Vulnerable People and promise them paradise. Yeah. His interest in a teenager from boston may seem farfetched. But for years i have seen evidence of russian and ukrainians recruiting vulnerable americans. Drawn to the slick propaganda. It is a frightening pattern confirmed by multiple sources, including this member richard. These groups are approaching people from the ukraine. And train. It is not just adam. It is a lot of National Socialist groups. It turns out at least one member of an american hate group charged with inciting violence in charlottesville las

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