Scaramucci may have inadvertently given the best explanation of the president s behavior. He called into cnn to explain a tweet he sent last night and later deleted. In light of the leak of the Financial Disclosure which is a felony, i will be contacting the fbi. It seemed to many that scaramucci appeared to accuse priebus of committing a felonily leaking his financial information. Something he denied in the subsequent tweet. Thats not the case because the information is made available to those who seek it one month after the forms are filed. That one month period for scaramuccis information was last sunday. And in the now deleted tweets he was targeting priebus as a source for this politico story. The feud is another public knife fight for a white house with a surplus of drama. If you want to talk about the chief of staff we have had odds, we have had differences. When i said we were brothers from the podium, thats because were rough some brothers are like cain and abell i dont know in is reparable or not. Thats up to the president but hes the chief of staff. Hes responsible for understanding and uncovering and helping me do that inside the white house which is why i put that tweet out last night. We have a very, very good idea of who the leakers are, who the senior leakers are in the white house. Well get to that in a second. When i put out a tweet and i put reinces name in the tweet theyre making the assumption it is him because journalists know who the leakers are. So if reince wants to explain that hes not a leaker let him do that. The fish stingings from the head down, but two fish that dont stink, thats me and the president. I dont like the activity thats going on in the white house. I dont like what theyre doing to my friend and what theyre doing to the president of the United States. Or their fellow colleagues in the west wing. Joining me now nbcs peter alexander, just out of the Briefing Room in the white house. Shannon pettypiece, Philip Rucker and eli stokals, wall street Journal White House reporter. Peter, let me start with you. Only two fish that dont stink as i understand mr. Scaramucci but i want to ask you about the airing of all this internal chaos. I know the president is a reality tv guy. But do you think this was sort of a play that he called . Well, heres the bottom line. The president several months ago said this administration is working like a finetuned machine and if it is this is a bizarre looking machine. The latest this power play, you know, by Anthony Scaramucci effectively it appears increasingly like hes been outsourced the responsibility of dismissing the chief of staff, Reince Priebus, even as i asked Sarah Huckabee sanders whether hes an officially an employee yet at the white house yet. He didnt take the oath of office yet and hes been standing side by side in recent days. The bottom line is that the white house in the words of Sarah Huckabee sanders insists that the president likes this kind of competition and they say hes not like past administrations in the sort of group think and this game of thrones atmosphere is exactly what he desires. Philip rucker, what do you think about sort of the weakness that it projects that he can never pick a side . That even his fight against sessions he simply took to the not so manly, you know, weapon of his thumbs and his i think he uses an android. When it cops to if he wants to get rid of Reince Priebus, man up and fire the guy. They all serve at the pleasure of the president. Why doesnt he have the sort of character to dismiss people whose services he no longer wants . Well, its a great point because we remember before he entered politics he had his reality show and the two words everyone remembers from that was youre fired. He fired people all the time on television and he cant do its as president. He likes to demean them and mock them but he doesnt pull the trigger and fire them and we saw that throughout six months of the administration. There are rumors time and again hes going to fire sean spicer, hes going to fire Reince Priebus, hes going to fire Jeff Sessions and the people for the most part survive and hang on and thats what seems to be happening for the moment with priebus. Although, you know, something could develop in the next couple of days. Shannon, we went from sessions watch to priebus watch, but its interesting that priebus is so far completely exonerated from having any role in the information that Anthony Scaramucci accused him of leaking, accused him of a felony leak. Really, lets talk about leaking for a second. I mean, there are two kinds of leaks. No president likes information that damages our National Security, our countrys intelligence assets leaks. The person whos done that kind of leaking is actually the president. It seems that he leaked information to of course the russians. The other kinds of leaks are the leaks that we all get everyone who covers this white house gets calls from people who work for him who dont to be tarnished by the lunacy of his white house. What kind of leaks are they more mad about . The president doesnt like any leaks that make him look bad. So the second kind . You know, if it helps make him look good or if its about someone else, fine. If its leaking information about someone outside the white house, a rival or enemy thats fine. I if it makes him bad or the mad king, if it makes him look like hes wandering around in his bath robe late at night and makes his administration look bad from the National Security standpoint he doesnt like those. Its not just the leaks about National Security, about National Intelligence that theyre going after. Its the leaks having to do with the internal issues in the white house that make this administration look chaotic and despite what, you know, sarah said from the podium today this is by design, sort of the Chaotic Group of people with different ideas that they put together, sure, they like debate in the room. But i do know from people close to the president that it does drive him crazy when he has this dirty laundry being aired in public. He did not like that infighting between kushner and bannon to be public, he did not like the attacks on reince earlier in the administration being made public. I dont know about this specific case but i know in the past those things have bothered him. Eli, do you think it bothers anyone that the only two who werent accused of being rotten or stinking from i guess the head down is that the expression i have to learn some of scaramuccis italian colloquialisms to follow him as the chief communicator, but did you get any blow back or hear that anyone was offended by the fact that everyone is a suspect, except scaramucci and trump . Well, yeah, theyre offend and a lot of people are fearful about losing their jobs, because they want to stay and hold on to those jobs and continue working in this west wing. But yeah, theres a reason why bannon and priebus and a lot of people close to the president fought to keep Anthony Scaramucci out of this administration for such a long time. Because they sort of had a sense that this is how it would go and he has come in and he has sort of said and made a point of telling everybody that he only reports to the president. Scaramucci was on air force one monday and he came back to the press cabin and he told all of us i dont know why im here. The president told me to come back here. Every times he speaks to the president , reporters find out about it. And today hes talking ago he gives this interview to cnn. When we inquired if he talked to the president about the comments and about his tweets about Reince Priebus, he indicated that he has and that he has the president s blessing. We are watching really the same reality show episode play out over and over again. And you do get the sense like phil mentioned earlier that hes brought scaramucci in to do something to sort of let him be the bad guy and get rid of reince because the president has been thinking about replacing priebus for a long time for months. But doesnt really seem to have the will or the stomach to say youre fired himself and he seems to be content to allow scaramucci to do to priebus what he has been doing on twitter to Jeff Sessions. Doesnt have the stomach to fire staff, but hell be just fine up against americas enemies but i digress. Today Sarah Huckabee sanders was asked this question if the president has confidence in priebus. Lets watch about what she said. Look, i think i have addressed this question when its comes to staffing and personnel many times, that if the president doesnt, then hell make that decision. We all serve at the pleasure of the president and if it gets to the place where that isnt the case hell let you know. So you cant say right now if the president has full confidence in chief of staff Reince Priebus . I think i just answered that. Did i miss it . Did she answer its, help me peter. Theyre not answering that question. Youll remember that we have heard privately behind the scenes of what the president said about Jeff Sessions, what i fired him, the same thing he said about james comey before he did fire him and what hes saying behind the scenes about Reince Priebus right now. But theres new reporting that even scaramucci said, hey, im sanctioned by the president to say this, so it appears that he was out there to deliver that message on his behalf today. Philip rucker, it seems that everything the president touches is tarnished by him. The boy scouts of america issued this statement i want to extend the sincere apology to those who were offended by the political rhetoric, that was never the intent. The president speaking here is a long standing tradition. What do you think of the obliteration of everything thats traditional and normal as a real sign of either his ignorance or his disdain for traditions that some people sort of hold sacred . Well, it was a really fascinating moment a couple nights ago in West Virginia when he gave that speech to the boy scout jamboree. These are children and teenagers and young, impressionable boys who are hearing and seeing the United States of the president and hes talking about Hillary Clinton and electoral map and getting them to boo obama. It was stunning that that happened and even more stunning that the boy scouts of america would issue a public apology like that to scouting families for the president s behavior and rhetoric that night. We have not seen an apology yet from the white house. I dont think well see one from this white house. But its yet another norm that this president is breaking and we saw it all through the campaign and were seeing it now in the presidency. And shannon, i want to bring you into this conversation. Sarah Huckabee Sanders doubling down on the appropriateness of that speech in her briefing today, pretty stunning. But i want to bring you back to where we started and it was this description of that i think scaramucci intended for Reince Priebus, but to me it perfectly described the president as insecurity sort of being what creates paranoia. I wonder if you think that was subliminal, inadvertent, projecting . I mean, i feel like i need a psychological a degree in psychology to understand whats going on down there. Im sure Anthony Scaramucci would not intentionally be trying to describe the president as insecure or incompetent. I think this type of remark is the type of thing that the drama around these comments this morning is a type of think we can just expect from having Anthony Scaramucci there as communications director. You know, like his Communication Style or not, agree with him or not, he is a Big Personality. He is not cautious with his words or his tweets. Maybe hell learn to be. Hes not known for being someone whos politically correct or whos cautious about what he says. Hes a Big Personality that they have added into this white house of already big personalities. Someone told me after he was named it was like throwing gas on a tanker fire. More fuel on the flames of the white house, its going to be drama and its going to be continue. Theyre not putting someone in there whos cautious and conservative and going to watch what theyre saying. I think this is par for the course as long as hes there. All right, thank you to peter alexander, shannon pettytice and eli is sticking around. Joining im going to drop the deutsche and just say donnie. You have become like madonna. Rick stengel from Public Affairs and an msnbc political analyst. Elise jordan also an msnbc analyst and a Time Magazine columnist. From washington, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. Matt, i saw you on fox news this week sticking up for your old friend Jeff Sessions. How do you think about the banging on the pinata that is this president s cyber torture of Jeff Sessions . I just looked before he went on the air and me made some comment, he said it was a bit hurtful. Its been painful for me. I have a high regard for Jeff Sessions and i support the president and its been hard to watch these the president s tweets against Jeff Sessions. I for one do understand why hes frustrated and all this. Its frustrateling for people who frustrating for people who support President Trump well, wait, let me stop you. I understand being president is being frustrating but our old boss didnt send me out to the white house Briefing Room to publicly attack any sitting member of his cabinet. I mean, he was frustrated all the time, go to the gym, take a pill. You dont attack the members of your cabinet on twitter when youre frustrated. I need a better excuse than frustration. You dont need an excuse at all. Im just telling im answering your question and telling you how i felt about it. The thing is this. You could spend every hour of your show talking about how this presidency communicates in a completely different way, its completely not conventional. But it is. And it is the reality that were in. Its the reality that the American People voted for. They wanted a lot of change to how things are done in washington and the president is changing almost everything about being president. Do you think they wanted to get things done . Do you think theyll be yes. So yeah. Look, if we dont do things like repeal obamacare i think its very difficult for us to go back to the American People, even to our republican supporters and say it matters to have us in office. If we dont have a real tax cut bill passed and get signed into law i feel the same way about it. So i think that the stakes are incredibly high for the Republican Party. Donny deutsch, you know all the men involved. You know the president , you know Anthony Scaramucci. Are they are they sort of did the president call this play . Was scaramucci very deliberately trying to drive Reince Priebus out of the west wing . I think so. I think the day that scaramucci got the three cnn reporters fired he became a man crush of trump. I spoke to him over the weekend i said be careful. He didnt listen to my advice as most people dont. To put in context of just the last 24 hours of the white house, ranging from the interior secretary basically threatening a u. S. Senator if they dont vote on the health care bill, to scaramuccis silliness, and the transgender ban without the generals knowing, and continuing to trash Jeff Sessions, this is the last 24 hours. Beyond all of the political nonsense theres a level of incompetence. And weakness. Its interesting that a pop culture side bar. On the apprentice, one of the person said he was never decided who to fire and he was given the words each time. Even that symbolic thing was fake. From the man who calls us fake news. Hes never run a Big Organization or had serious people working for him. He doesnt have that skill set. Hes doing everything fundamentally wrong that a ceo does. Particularly letting people fight in public. Hes never worked in an institution before. Forget the fact that hes never been in washington. Hes never been in an institution where theres chain of command. Hes worked in a family business. He doesnt know how this works. Much less institutions in washington which we built up over generations when you go abroad, you talk to other countries about building up their institutions. He is dismantling it by one tweet at a time. Very quickly, you guys have well, he was voted for, we want something different. You know, is he going to run naked across the white house lawn, we wanted something different, america voted for me. Theres got to be why do you two get naked . Accountability that the American People voted for him and we want something different. Im going to stay fully clothed and i want to go ahead, matt. This is hard for people in new york city and washington, d. C. To get most of my friends to get as well which is why none of them thought hed win. Even with everything going on in the west wing, i talked to people today when i was on capitol hill. The people who voted for him in the states that voted for him, t