Yeah, i know her. I know of her. And again, i dont want to rule out having crossed paths with her in high school. Similar to your statements about knowing dr. Ford . Correct. Senator feinstein . Judge kavanaugh, its my understanding that you have denied the allegations by dr. Ford, ms. Ramirez and ms. Swetnick. Is that correct . Yes. All three of these women have asked the fbi to investigate their claims. I listened carefully to what you said. Your concern is evident and clear. And if you are very confident of your position and you appear to be, why arent you also asking the fbi to investigate these claims. Senator, ill do whatever the committee wants. I wanted a hearing the day after the allegation came up. I wanted to be here that day. Instead, ten days passed where all this nonsense is coming out, you know, that im in gangs, im on boats in rhode island, im in colorado, you know, im sighted all over the place. And these things are printed and run breathlessly by cable news. You know, i wanted a hearing the next day. My family has been destroyed by this, senator. Destroyed. And and whoever wants whatever the committee decides, you know, im all in. But the question is immediately. Im all in immediately. And a terrible and hard part of this is, when we get an allegation, were not in a position to prove it or disprove it. Therefore, we have to depend on some outside authority for it. And it would just seem to me then when these allegations came forward that you would want the fbi to investigate those claims and clear it up once and for all. Senator, the committee investigates. Its not for me to say how to do it, but just so you know, the fbi doesnt reach a conclusion. They would give you a couple 302s that just tell you what we said. So im here. I wanted to be here. I wanted to be here the next day. Its an outrage that i was not allowed to come and immediately defend my name and say i didnt do this and give you all this evidence. Im not even im not even in d. C. On the weekends in the summer of 1982. This happened on a weekday . When im not at a High School Game for a Summer League game . Im not at a movie with suzanne . You know, i wanted to be here right away. Well, the difficult thing is that it these hearings are set and set by the majority. But im talking about getting the evidence and having the evidence looked at. And i dont understand, you know, we hear from the witnesses, but the fbi isnt interviewing them and isnt giving us any facts. So all we have youre interviewing me. Youre interviewing me. Youre doing it, senator. Im sorry to interrupt, but youre doing it. Theres no conclusions reached. And what youre saying, if i understand it, is that the allegations by dr. Ford, ms. Ramirez and ms. Swetnick are wrong. That is emphatically what im saying. Emphatically. The swetnick thing is a joke. That is a farce. Would you like to say more about it . No. Thats it. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Ms. Mitchell . Dr. Ford has described you as being intoxicated at a party. Did you consume alcohol during your High School Years . Yes, we drank beer. My friends and i. The boys and girls. Yes, we drank beer. I liked beer. Still like beer. We drank beer. The drinking age was 18 so the seniors were legal. Senior year in high school, people were legal to drink. And we yeah, we drank beer and i said sometimes sometimes probably had too many beers and sometimes other people had too many beers. We drank beer. We liked beer. What do you consider to be too many beers . I dont know. You know, whatever the chart says on blood alcohol chart. When you talked to fox news the other night you said that there were times in high school when people might have had too many beers on occasion. Does that include you . Sure. Okay. Have you ever passed out from drinking . Passed out would be, no, but ive gone to sleep, but ive never blacked out. Thats the allegation, and that thats wrong. So lets talk about your time in high school. In high school, after drinking, did you ever wake up in a different location than you remembered passing out or going to sleep . No. No. Did you ever wake up with your clothes in a different condition or fewer clothes on than you remembered when you went to sleep or passed out . No. No. Did you ever tell did anyone ever tell you about something that happened in your presence that you didnt remember during a time that you had been drinking . No. We drank beer, and you know, so did i think the vast majority of people our age at the time. But at any event, we drank beer and still do. So whatever during the time in high school, when you would be dri k drinking, did anyone ever tell you about something you did not remember . No. Dr. Ford described a small gathering of people at a suburban maryland home in the summer of 1982. She said that mark judge, p. P. J. Smyth and leland ingam were also present as well as a wellknown male and that the people were drinking to varying degrees. Were you ever at a gathering that fits that description . No, as ive said in my Opening Statement. Dr. Ford described an incident where she was alone in a room with you and mark judge. Have you ever been alone in a room with dr. Ford and mark judge . No. Dr. Ford described an incident where you were grinding your genitals on her. Have you ever ground or rubbed your genitals against dr. Ford . No. Dr. Ford described an incident where you covered her mouth with your hand. Have you ever covered dr. Fords mouth with your hand . No. Dr. Ford described an incident where you tried to remove her clothes. Have you ever tried to remove her clothes . No. Referring back to the definition of sexual behavior that i have given you, have you ever, at any time engaged in sexual behavior with dr. Ford . No. Have you ever engaged in sexual behavior with dr. Ford even if it was consensual . No. I want to talk about your calendars. You submitted to the committee copies of the handwritten calendars that youve talked about for the months of may, june, july and august of 1982. You have them in front of you . I do. Did you create these calendars, in the sense all of the handwriting thats on them . Yes. Okay. Is it exclusively your handwriting . Yes. When did you make these entries . In 1982. Has anything changed been changed for those since 1982 . No. Do these calendars represent your plans for each day or do they document, in other words, prospectively, or do they document what actually occurred, more like a diary . Theyre both forward looking and backward looking as you can tell by looking at them because i cross out certain doctors appointments that didnt happen or one night where i was supposed to lift weights. I crossed that out because i, obviously, didnt make it that night. So you can see things that i didnt do. Crossed out in retrospect and also when i list the specific people who i was with that is likely backward looking. You explain that you kept these calendars because your father started keeping them in 1978, i believe you said. Uhhuh. Thats why you kept them. In other words, you wrote on them, but why did you keep them up until this time . Well, hes kept them, too, since 1978, so hes a good role model. Ms. Mitchell, youll have to stop. Im sorry. Judge kavanaugh has asked for a break so well take a 15minute break. Hard to sum up what it is we just witnessed, but a federal judge at a point in his remarks where it could have gone either way, quite frankly, has decided to fight this and go all in. It was emotional. It was angry. And what we as viewers and witnesses are left with here is somebody is not telling the truth. Someone is not remembering the truth properly. What is normally Nicolle Wallaces hour of television, deadline white house, nicolle is with us in the studio in new york along with, Gene Robinson and cynthia and mara gaye. And nicolle . Im thinking about Donald Trumps inauguration address and the line about human carnage. Weve seen a lot of it today. The stories from professor ford and what theyve been through and the story about judge kavanaughs daughters, talking about praying for professor ford and ashley kavanaughs face while he was telling that story and Brett Kavanaugh crying every time he talked about his parents and his wife and his kids and all his friends, men and women. Thats the human carnage that donald trump promised in his inauguration address. Here it is. A couple things i learned about how this speech came to be, Brett Kavanaugh ripped up a set of remarks circulated for feedback and notes and approval yesterday. He wrote this himself. I heard from two sources close to kavanaugh that this was not a performance that had anything to do with the Supreme Court. Its a performance that had to do with his life. And i say performance because i knew Brett Kavanaugh for i worked with him in the white house for years and i never saw that side of him. So it was authentic and real. It may not have helped him. It may have hurt him. It may have helped him. But it was raw emotion, and ive never seen that side of him. It was a rebuke of this moment in politics, and i think the question now is, does that overlap with his legislative goals, which is to win enough votes on this committee to have his nomination forwarded to the full senate . And i have no idea. Eugene, we have a federal judge being questioned right now by maricopa county, arizona, sex crimes prosecutor. Thats just todays thing that you never thought would happen in a million years and its throw it on the pile of things. Throw it on the pile of unprecedented things. You know, obviously the striking thing about judge kavanaughs presentation, up to now, has been the emotion. Has been i dont know if one would call it rage, but the it was raw. He was yelling. And we need to keep that in perspective because, at first, frankly, its it just comes off as weird and you wonder is this someone fall apart before your eyes . And i think we need to step back and say and realize that, you know, he ripped up those remarks. He wrote it out himself. It, obviously, was edited by no one. And so it was very real sense that he is fighting for his reputation and for him, that is literally fighting for his life. Yeah, he said, i dont know if ill be able to teach again because of all of this. He has on his brain today his life, his, what hes going and how it may change. Not the Supreme Court. I thought human carnage was a good summary of what weve seen today. I watched all of dr. Fords testimony this morning which was riveting and which was, i believe one of the prosecutors we had on the air said youve never had a witness that credible. You said it, i think. You dont it was and now we have judge kavanaugh passionately, passionately denying everything. I mean, you know, not giving that sort of inch. I continue to wonder about that. I continue to wonder whether the picture thats painted of an excessively boozy and rambunctious period in his life goes well beyond what we acknowledges. I continue to wonder if that picture that weve gotten isnt closer to the objective truth, and i also wonder if thats the kind of thing that we know more about if there were a proper investigation of these charges. Cynthia, then mara. I thought it was a temper tantrum. He wants to be on the Supreme Court, and hes not going to be. And he has in fact, its been human carnage. He has been humiliated, and hes angry and you get the feel that you have a feeling for what hes like when he is, as his roommate, from yale described him, when he drank that he could be an angry and belligerent drunk. He didnt seem drunk. Im not indicating that, but he was angry and bellig rent and it was kind of scary. And youve got a side of him that you didnt expect to see. Moreover, you dont expect to hear from a federal judge conspiracy theorys about the clintons and this is all about you dont expect to hear that and its so partisan its hard for me to believe you can then rule on cases with that kind of partisanship. Its just not what we expect. Thats not the temperament of a federal judge. It was its completely everything that a federal judge isnt, was that 50minute rant. So i think hes done himself a great disservice in his judge role, whether or not the American People think his outrage is justified and as a result, he didnt do these things. I guess well have to wait and see on that. But as a judge, hes hurt himself immeasurably. Fascinating. Mara . Im thinking much like eugene on a human level. Either someone is lying, or, you know, the and i dont want to speculate, go down too far this path, but its certainly possible i myself have had certainly family members who have struggled with alcoholism. Either who are life long alcoholickers or suffered from alcohol abuse. Its very possible that, you know, he just doesnt remember this. And so that really leads us back to the mark judge, you know, testimony that is missing here. And so i was thinking about that. But, you know, the other human carnage here is every american who is watching this today, both judge kavanaughs testimony, but also this morning, dr. Fords. I cannot tell you the number of emails and phone calls and Text Messages that i got from men, a lot of women, friends who are asking each other, we are all asking each other, are you okay . I know this is a hard day for you. I had to stay home from work because i was too emotional. I couldnt stop crying. I am shaking watching this. You know, the extent to which american women and all women feel that, you know, dr. Fords pain is our pain is quite visceral. And i think that really goes to the heart of the matter which is that weve been saying this for months. This is not a courtroom, right . This is about character. And this is about whether an accounta credible. And ultimately those senators have to make that decision, but i just have a hard time after watching dr. Fords testimony, i think a lot of us have a hard time seeing her as not credible. And i think, you know, no one is entitled to a job on the Supreme Court is the other thing here. You know, and thats you hear a lot of entitlement from him today, i believe. Ashley parker is a pulitzer prizewinner with the Washington Post. Covers the trump white house. Ashley, queue it up wherever you wish. So what weve seen from judge kavanaugh, especially in his Opening Statement, is him really doing what the president and people in the president s orbit wanted him to do. He came out. He was sort of screaming almost. He was angry. He was defiant. Outraged. Which white house aides had privately said if you believe hes telling the truth and that hes totally innocent of this and has been accuse of these horrific things, you would expect him to be angry, too. We didnt see that in the fox news interview. We want to see that on thursday. The other thing that judge kavanaugh has addressed in terms of white house concerns and concerns from president trump, was there was this idea that he had sort of boxed himself into a corner with his initial choir boy defense. That he sort of was only doing Service Projects and being a good friend to boys and girls and going to church. So you again saw a little bit from him of a deliberate effort to say, look, i drank. Sometimes i drank too much. I liked beer. I still like beer. The question is, he has to win over the president. Were still sort of reporting out what the president thinks of that defiant response. But again, the key people are actually that small handful of republican senators, including senator collins, senator murkowski who may not have necessarily wanted to see that from him. We just dont know that yet, but he is doing exactly what the president and the white house wanted him to do as of yesterday evening. Nicolle wallace . I think that we are weve all been sitting through this all day. Weve, you know, to a person, we all have empathy for what we witnessed. If you strip away some of the emotion and look at the structural challenges of trying to take this in and offer analysis and explain it, the structural problem is were not permitted to believe both of them, and yet in their own ways, theyre both incredibly compelling. So i think if this nomination comes up short, one of the strategic mistakes they made was the day that account in the Washington Post appeared, they should have done one of three things. They should have demanded, as professor ford did, an fbi investigation. And if that fbi investigation or the fbi for some reason hadnt been willing, and its my understanding that the president had so ordered, they certainly would have, then, you know, people investigate cold cases all the time with their own resources. Brett should have insisted upon the same sort of investigative rigor that professor ford did because she appeared to be the one telling a truthier story by being the one that wanted the fbi to investigate. That would be one sort of fork in the road where i think the kavanaugh side took the wrong path. The second would be not permitting this very human reaction of finding both individuals credible. And you offer a plausible way that we could have found that to be the case. He talked so much about beer, i think cheers was the last time i heard anyone talk about beer that much. And i dont know if that was strategic. I dont know if that was subliminal or a nervous reflex to try to put some levity in there. I worked with Brett Kavanaugh for six years and never saw him drink a beer or talk about a beer. In that 50 minutes he said the word beer two dozen times. If that was such an important part of the story to maybe open up the door to say it the way you just articulated. Maybe there was one occasion where and i cant imagine that it went down the way she describes it, but if it did, that im terribly sorry. They never took that step. And then the third place where i think we were all sort of led to where we are today which is just these two incredibly law appe appearances is the fact that theres this bizarre, you know, incredibly partisan dynamic on the committee. It would be very comforting if a democrat and a republican could ask the same question or seem to treat both witnesses with the same amount of openness. But we see from the republicans, this almost reflexive defense of kavanaugh and the opposite of professor ford. And it would have been comforting if republicans had been as generous to professor ford as democrats were, and if democrats had some you know, just if it hadnt been so partisan, that committee. That was our own filter. We were relying on them and the questioning itself of both of them was so partisan. And sadly, we dont live in that day right now. Allow me to go to someone who has been most patient with us, and thats barbara mcquade, longtime former federal prosecutor and form