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MSNBCW First Look November 7, 2017

Holt. She was shooting toward the church, and he ran around the church, shooting until he came to this other side and we were trying to get the people to safety, trying to get them down, the customers and get them in the store, and letting the people that were pulling up that there was a shooter, and the gentleman came around and then there was silence. We didnt hear anymore shots for a couple of seconds, and then we heard a massive load of shots. I believe thats when he was in the church. And we couldnt do anything, because we didnt know if there was more of them, and all of a sudden we see one of the victims running out, and he came across the street toward the store, and he was bloody on his arms and part of his face, and we let him in the store. We had him on the ground, and then we see hes telling us that his familys in there, and that somebody had gone in and they had shot up everybody. Meanwhile the military is now investigating how the air force failed to enter the gunmans Domestic Violence Court Marshal into a database that would prevented him from owning a gun. Were learning more about the extent of the violence. While stationed in new mexico in 2012 he tracktufractured his st skull and repeatedly hit, kicked, and choked his exwife. He pled guilty to cruelty of animals. He still was able to purchase guns since leaving the military. Joining us now, steve patterson. Good to have you with us this morning. What are you hearing on the ground in terms of the investigation and a lot of unanswered that questions that police have been addressing in their News Conferences over the last 24 hours. Police are looking into the connection of kelley and the church, believe his stepmother was a member of the church. Theyre looking at that as pointing with the motivation as to why he went in and killed 26 people. Most of the people came in families. Half of that number, at least 12 to 14 of the people who were killed inside that church for children. We talked to some people who lost three generations of family members inside the church. And then what was incredible was what happened after as the suspect was leaving the church. We were talking to people, Good Samaritans who wanted to stop the suspect. One of them, was living next door, heard the gunfire and started loading his weapon with clips, ran out barefoot, and then started exchanging gunfire with the suspect. Struck him at least one time. He then saw another guy who was driving to his girlfriends home, saw this gun battle was ensuing and stopped. Those two guys met eyes and chased the suspect some 95 miles until he wipes out on the highway, side of the road, and police were able to get there and find him with a selfinflicted gunshot gun. Our craig melvin spoke to johnny about why he put himself in a dangerous situation. Listen to the sound we got. I didnt have time to react before the gentleman with the rifle got in the truck with me, and he told me that he just shot at the other man just shot at the church and we had to go get him, so i said okay. And you went and got him . Yes, sir. You chased him . Yes, sir. Reporter however . About 12 miles up the road. Reporter when what happened. Im trying to keep the gentleman with me calm and talking to dispatch. Im doing about 95 Miles Per Hour down the road, he lost control on his own and hit the bar ditch, and at that time i parked the truck as close as i felt comfortable. Me and the other gentleman got behind it, and the other gentleman drew his rifle on him, told the shoot tore get out. He never got out. About then traffic was coming so i went from behind the truck to go and stop traffic just in case there was any exchange of gunfire. So no one else would get hurt, and Police Arrived very quickly. Reporter police announced last night a full autopsy has been conducted on the shooter, and, again, they found him with a selfinflicted gunshot wound they believe to the head. All right. Steve patterson live for us in texas. Were learning more about the victims. Officials say about half of the 26 People Killed inside the First Baptist church were children, the youngest just 18 months old. Eight members of one extended was gunned down as they prayed, husband and wife. Brian and carla holcom, one of their sons, a wife who was pregnant, the pastor and wife lost their 14yearold daughter, an anna belle. We lost more than belle yesterday. One thing that gives me encouragement is the fact that belle was surrounded by her Church Family that she loved fiercely. There were at least 20 people injured in the shooting. Officials said at least half of them were in critical condition. One woman shot in the shoulder said the congregation was singing when they heard gunshots. She said she hid under a church view. Everybody die mother [ bleep ]. Thats what he said, everybody die, when he came inside. He came through the front door. Everybody thought he was gone. People were whispering hes in here. Everybody is crying. And i could see. It looked like i could see him, but i could see him. I was hiding under the benches. And i could see him, diz feet, walking back and forth through the aisles. Last night the Community Came together for a vigil to pray for the victims of the shooting. Mike pence announcing he will be traveling to Sutherland Springs tomorrow to meet with families of the fallen. Joining us now is a yamiche. Allie batali asked the president about the issue of guns. She said basically you said you want extreme vetting of people coming into the United States after the attack in new york. Would you want the same for people buying guns. Take us through exactly what the president said. Essentially the president , i think, was taken aback by the question because of the setting. He said that if there had been extreme vetting the two men that chased the shooter would probably have been deterred. He basically had the idea and his answer was essentially that the more guns in that situation, helped save lives because the shooter was able to get away, and he didnt actually get into whether or not actual Gun Legislation would solve this issue. Essentially he didnt want to engage in the question. As allie prezzed him, he i think he got the idea you got the idea listening to him you didnt think any kind of legislation would stop this shooting or subsequent shooting. You felt as if he shut it down when the question was asked. But the air force is looking into the fact that certain things werent listed for him that would have prevented him from buying that gun. The Domestic Violence charges he has against him y. Yamiche, thank you for joining us. President addressed the major problem in the area, north korea. We cannot allow north korea to threaten all we have built, and weve built it very much together. We call on every responsible nation, including china and russia to demand that the north korean regime and its Nuclear Weapons and its missile programs, and live in peace as the south Korean People know so well, its time to act with urgency and with great determination. As we Work Together to resolve this problem, using all available tools short of military action, the United States stands prepared to defend itself and its allies using the full range of our unmatched military capabilities if need be. Lets go live to seoul, south korea with Kelly Odonnell joining us now. Obviously, kelly, south korea on the front lines of the conflict with north korea. A tense place at that. Im curious as to the reception so far the president has received. Reporter well, good morning. From president moon and his wife, there has been a very generous reception in the diplomatic realm. By that i mean president moon extended himself going to visit President Trump not waiting for the president to come to him as small as that might seem, it does carry considerable weight. Some of the gestures of sharing tea together, inviting President Trump to the blue house. Those sorts of gestures are an important show of president moon trying to build a relationship with President Trump. President moon also praising the president s first year in office and remarking about his upcoming anniversary of his election victory. Things that speak to donald trump in trying to forge this relationship. Also, there is the issue of trade where south korea has agreed to renegotiate and reopen its one on one agreement with the United States. Something that President Trump has made a very strong point about saying that you need both economic and National Security partnership to be on good footing together. Heres President Trump talking about trade. I feel confident that well be able to reach a free, fair, and reciprocal trade deal waez renegotiate our current fiveyearold trade document. Were looking at ways of improving our economic relationship. I would like to thank president moon for instructing his trade negotiators to work closely with us to quickly pursue a much better deal. A deal that, frankly, has been quite unsuccessful and not very good for the United States. President trump has been willing to say some of those critical comments both here and previously in japan when it comes to trade. As in many ways a negotiating point where he is trying to work with south korea, and also encouraging them to buy billions of dollars worth of u. S. Militarymade equipment, and so by forging this connection between the economy and National Security, President Trump is trying to represent the United States and push the homebased economic interests of the United States while also building this relationship with president moon. Well have to see how the strategy plays out. Thank you. For more on the president s remarks, lets bring in editor at large for the atlantic, my good friend steve clemmons. Lets talk a little bit about the president s comments in south korea and separate really substance from the cosmetics and the tone of it. If you look at what President Trump said when he was running as a candidate, then candidate trump, he had some very harsh words for countries like south korea and japan when it came to their issue of National Security, but now it seems hes striking a different tone. He also said diplomacy wasnt working. It seems the only option available right now for the president at least publicly is diplomatic talk with north korea. Well, look, this is a toned down message the president provided today. I think one of the objectives that both the americans and the South Koreans had was to show they were consultanting, talking together in the press conference they both committed to more consultations. He said during the campaign that north korea south korea and japan should both consider getting their own Nuclear Weapons and questioned whether or not the United States should really be out in these countries at all. His tone as moved and changed and shifted quite a bit. That aside, and even though donald trump, i think, was quite gracious toward the moons and in accepting saying nice things about the welcome ceremony and being there, he said a very interesting comment that i think was subtle thats going to make some of the South Koreans a bit worried. And with the comments about camp humphries which was just built there, and saying that humphries, if he had been doing it, he would have done it cheaper. He said it was there to defend south korea, not the United States. I think that is at least the source of a lot of south korean insecurity about the nature of the relationship. Is are south korea and the United States joined at the hip . Is subtlety of that comment is in Donald Trumps mind, answer the is no, that were doing this for them. The South Koreans will renegotiate a trade deal with us and were selling billions of dollars of equipment. Its sort of like the american presence is there for a price, not because we look at the Core National interest of the United States. Talk about the president s choice not to visit the Demilitarized Zone that many have visited in the past. His administration saying he doesnt going to make that visit there. Whether or not that will change well see. Looks like hes not headed in that direction. I think that sends a message to some degree. I know its controversial. Many president s do that. Its a sign of commitment that were going to stand with the South Koreans at that line and t toe that line with the South Koreans very closely. I think at the same time, the president s rhetoric has been so bombastic and so considered so reckless that his presence there could cause a provocation that led to north korean actions. Its been interesting thus far at least in the first day there that there have been no missile tests, no provocations from north korea. Thats probably a good thing. Had the president gone there, i think his military adviser says, that alone may have precipitated a response from north korea and disintegration. That the United States is not going to precipitate itself, actions that may destabilize it. I actually support the notion that President Trump not going to the dmz because that could have been a destabilizing moment. And we know the north korean government has been putting out signals they are watching this trip very closely and prepared to respond to anything they could deem offensive. Steve, thank you. Still ahead, voters across the country will head to voting booths today. Were looking at some of the key contests in this off year election. House republicans a making changes to their long awaited tax plan. Well look inside the legislation this morning. Those stories and a check on your weather when we come back. I had some severe fatigue, some funny rashes. Finally, listening to my wife, i went to a doctor and then i became diagnosed with hodgkins lymphoma. That diagnosis was tough. Im a concrete mason. I own my own company. I went from being a guy that could pick up anything i wanted, to having to ask for help. Im a person that likes to take control. At that point in my life, i said theres nothing i can do. I have to rely on physicians information, physicians recommendations. 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