Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20140507

My third mothers day since my mother passed, but i dont need mothers day once a year to remember what a single mother did for me and what single mothers have done for others like kevin durant. For us, every day is mothers day, because we live the dreams that they believed we would achieve. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Monica talks. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in philadelphia. Let me start with Monica Lewinskys new tell all about her time with bill clinton. Ive read the story. Its really about her, not so much the clintons. Its about what happened to her in the years since the world learned of her sexual involvement with a married american president. Will this encourage the republicans seeking to undermine Hillary Clinton, that once charged sexual impropriety to go like henry vs band of brothers . But theres also a tough part of this article i read today by Monica Lewinsky. She says the clintons dont care what happened to her, have no regard for whats become of her, what her future looks like. She hits them hard on how they tried to destroy her in order to free themselves from the facts, and this is the tough part of the new lewinsky narrative that republicans could use well between now and 2016. Its this charge how she makes the clintons, before the dna evidence was claimed, tried making her a scapegoat, someone clinton had no personal connection with, some stranger making false claims. That woman, as bill clinton referred to her in his infamous disclaimer, a loony tune, asHillary Clinton said, a stalker, as a clinton aide was portraying her. Tonight, we discuss whether republicans are the stupid party and go after the story with the same piety or the shrewd party for the callous treatment of a young woman who got in the clintons political way. Howard fineman is an msnbc political analyst and nia Malika Henderson is a National Political reporter at the washington post. Howard, how did you see this . Did you read the article . When you read all the way through, you have to look, i think, as a political analyst, as you do and i do, and see where there might be ammo. Where i see it, its not again whether bill clinton did something wrong. We all know that, or whether Hillary Clinton was hurt by it and embarrassed by it and we all know that, and actually how shes prevailed against it herself. But this whole question of whether the clintons were just too damned callous in trying to make her into a stalker and, of course, Hillary Clinton called her a loony tune, bill clinton said that woman and almost didnt use her name, that attempt to minimize a person in order to get by a problem politically. That might sting. Your thoughts . Chris, i agree with you about the piece. I read the entire piece and the bomb shells are buried in the bottom at the end, where i think Monica Lewinsky allows herself to unburden herself a bit of the bitterness she has about the campaign that was run against her. Chris, i lived through all this, i was at newsweek at the time writing about it. Mike isikoff was our lead reporter on the story. I saw it moment by moment from the inside, and i also saw the campaign that was run against Monica Lewinsky. As she says in the piece, this was a consensual relationship, and then she was destroyed to the extent possible by the clinton administration. She says in the piece, you know, i was the unstable stalker, a phrase disseminated by the Clinton White house. She goes on to say, the clinton administration, among others, were able to brand me, and that brand stuck. And as you say, she says they dont care about her fate. I think thats tough stuff. I think it goes to the question of what kind of people the clintons are as political leaders, if they are too ruthless by half, if they use people, even by the standards of politics, too harshly, and really, ironically, the danger to Hillary Clinton may be as much among feminists, may be as much on the left as it could be on the right, if you want to look at Monica Lewinsky and the way she was treated by the clintons in those times, and as i say, i lived through them all and saw them. Nia, seems to me the background has shifted. Back in the 90s, it was still sort of sex is bad, if you catch somebody involved with it, you nail them, thats your got ya. Today, especially with whats happening over in nigeria, its about protection of women and nonexploitation of women and if the story shifts, the cosmos shift and instead of talking about whether he was naughty or not, which is not going to hurt bill clinton at all or Monica Lewinsky, or Hillary Clinton, its about whether you treat people, especially women, right. And i think the way monica wrote this story, i dont know her, but the way she wrote it was as a victim and as a victim of the clintons. Your thoughts . Well, thats right. You know, heres a situation that was, obviously, a private and consensual affair, had to do with bill clinton and Hillary Clintons marriage and, obviously, became very public. I think in some ways thats the way a lot of women look at this. This was something that was between the clintons and their marriage and in many ways, if you look at someone who might be on the other end of an affair like that, they probably would go after sort of the inner loper in a marriage, so i think theres a sort of grand political narrative that republicans will try to stir up around this. No, no, no, Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state, even back then, never said there was something wrong with monica, except she wasnt telling the truth. She said she was a luny tune. She said that privately. That she was somehow not really involved with her husband, that she should be dismissed, her charges, that woman. The whole narrative was, dont believe her, until the blue dress and dna evidence, then they had to change the story. Right, right, they had to change the story and we heard about bill clinton sleeping on the couch, all that stuff. Yeah, thats very well documented. I mean, this isnt really new. I think what youre raising is whether or not in this context when people talk about the idea of shaming, whether or not people will sort of retroactively prosecute and criticize Hillary Clinton for engaging in what would have been called really slut shaming back then, but so far it looks like if you look at, you know, the damage that did to Hillary Clinton and the clintons, it really was none. Hillary clinton had her highest Approval Ratings at that time, 65 , so it will be interesting if they can sort of retroactively paint her as antiwoman. Lets go to the politics, which is our strength, which is not morality, but politics. Lets look at the vanity fair article. Lewinsky talks candidly about her experiences being abused, abused, in the aftermath of the affair by the clintons and the media. She writes, their lives moved on, they occupy important and powerful places on the world stage, i wish them no ill and fully understand what happened to me and the issue of my future do not matter to either of them. Howard, thats buried, as you said, at the end of the piece. Why do you think that was thrown in there, this statement of callousness after this i dont hold any grudge, blah, blah, blah, but then statement of fact they dont care about me. Well, i think she does hold a grudge, and i think if she says i dont bear them any ill will, doesnt mean she bears them any good will. From the passages i read also, chris, its clear to me, and i was surprised at her willingness to express her bitterness here about the campaign that was run against her. I mean, i agree with nia that back in the day when all this was happening, hillarys numbers could not have been higher, because hillary ended up being the victim. Hillary was the victim, and hillarys sort of stoic acceptance of reality in that situation and her willingness to move on and not sort of wreck the presidency was admired by many people. She was one of the most admired people. Very much so. But this is a peak. Lets also keep in mind here, chris, i mean, i agree with your analysis here. I think it shows the clintons in a bad light for the way they tried to destroy this woman, but it also is, to some degree, ancient history. Most people, young people especially, who are going to be critical in the primaries, who are going to be critical in the general election, this is this may as well be something out of 19th century pot boiler to them. The cultural context yes, but its all new to them, too. It cant be both old news and new news. Either they are learning this for the first time or they are tired of it. Which is it . I dont think this is the last weve heard from monica on this topic. I think shes basically saying here, if people would like to talk to me some more about how the clintons tried to destroy me personally, i might be willing to discuss that. Thats what i took from this, and if i were in the clinton world, i would look at this as a shot across the bow from Monica Lewinsky. I really would. Thats right. And it also means that Hillary Clinton, when she goes out there now, shes going to get questions about this. This is in the news, shes sitting down with an interviewer, shes on her book tour, this is going to be a question she gets and who knows what shes going to say at this point. She hasnt talked about this in many, many years, but perhaps shell have some answer to this idea of whether or not she acted more as a wife or more as a sort of calculating political operative back when this was going on. Well, some conservatives are certainly going to try to make use of lewinskys article that just came out today to attack the clintons. Last night fox news guest host Laura Ingraham used the lewinsky article to attack the clintons for their ruthlessness. I think Laura Ingraham is smart here, but doesnt stay consistently smart later when talking to lynn cheney, whos not smart. Lets watch. When she became problematic for the clintons political ambitions, she was demeaned and discredited by the press and clinton protectors, including hillary herself. War on women . You bet. In the 1990s, the clintons pioneered it. Well, on fox later that night, lynn cheney told Laura Ingraham that Hillary Clinton orchestrated the lewinsky article, the one that just appeared. Heres cheney making her paranoid claim. I really wonder if this isnt an effort on the clintons part to get that story out of the way. Would vanity fair publish anything about Monica Lewinsky that Hillary Clinton didnt want in vanity fair . Thats very interesting. I love this theory. It actually makes perfect sense. Actually, laura, your earlier theory was much smarter, the opportunity was not going after the sexual impropriety and pretending to be pious themselves, which a whole string of scandals, david vitter, you want to go through the list . But going after people on callousness towards women, thats a smart move. Anyway, some republicans are hesitant to reli the lewinsky affair. Karl rove has questioned rand paul for beating up on Hillary Clinton and conservative activist Grover Norquist, who only wants to talk about taxes, fired this warning shot today, saying, this is the same trick the clintons pulled on us back in 98. We were distracted by this bright shiny object they handed out, which was Monica Lewinsky. Maybe the same thing this time. Like in baseball if they throw out a bad pitch and you swing at it, youre an idiot. Is this guy, Grover Norquist, crazy . He said the clintons had the scandal with Monica Lewinsky to distract from, what, the tax issue . Are the republicans completely lewiny, to put out a piece attacking the marriage they had, building up Monica Lewinsky with bill, then we had this whole thing somehow the 98 embarrassment of the country, not just the clintons, was orchestrated to distract from what issue . My answer is, i think yes. Your answer . Im not sure, but i do know this, if you read the whole article, theres no way this is something that the clintons would have wanted out there, because as i say, monica is basically advertising her bitterness and her resentment at the way she was destroyed by them, and thats a tantazing thing, as nia said, for other reporters to follow up on and to ask hillary about. Hillary, whos in the middle of polishing up the final details of her book, which i think is called hard choices, shes probably going to want to reread the portion that she wrote about the Monica Lewinsky years in light of this. And as far as Grover Norquist is concerned, even grover can be right for the wrong reason, okay, yes, all he cares about is the tax code, but i think hes got a point as far as the republicans are concerned. If they are going to try if they end up running against Hillary Clinton and they try to run against her by doing a rerun, as you said, a rerun of the 90s, they are going to lose. I agree. I think thats right. I think Hillary Clinton did something really wonderful in the late 90s, she was embarr s embarrassed, of course, personally embarrassed and anger at her husbands conduct, but she transcended that. Okay, i know a lot more about this guy bill than you do, i put it all into a total marital context of many years of marriage, and heres what, im going to carry on. She went up and campaigned for chuck schumer, she was magnificent. She ended up accepting really an invitation to run for senate in new york and had the guts to run for that office. She could have embarrassed herself then and lost. She didnt, she had the guts to run. So many things, how much guts that woman had. They stayed married. And nobody in politics is perfect. Thats the other thing ive learned, and ive stopped looking for it, perfection. Ill still look for it, but it aint there yet. Thank you, howard fineman, thank you, nia Malika Henderson. Coming up, the frenzy over benghazi heated up with the party out there shaking a tin cup raising money, believe it or not, over the death of Chris Stevens. Remember when the americans got blown up in beirut in the 80s . Plus, those dreadful abductions and god knows what else of those schoolgirls in nigeria. All 20 female United States starts have signed a bill to carry tough new sanctions on the group that carried them out. Amy klobuchar is going to join us, shes one of the leaders. Also, remember the 3 00 a. M. Phone call ad . An actual phone call, the angry one bill clinton made at 2 00 a. M. After he was called out by jim clyburn in South Carolina. Finally, how the clintons should deal with monica. Dont hide from it. As Bobby Kennedy would say, hang a lantern on your problem. This is hardball, the place for politics. Theres a saying around here, you stand behind what you say. Around here you dont make excuses. You make commitments. And when you cant live up to them, you own up, and make it right. Some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where its needed most. But i know youll still find it when you know where to look. We are the thinkers. The job jugglers. The up allnighters. And the ones who turn ideas into action. Weve made our passions our lifes work. We strive for the moments where we can say, i did it we are entrepreneurs who started it all. With a signature. Legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. And were here to help start yours. Bridget kellys attorneys denying the accusations that she, kelly, ordered renna to destroy evidence. Attorney michael krichly says, we said we did not tell her to delete it. Well, yesterday before the state legislative Committee Investigating the lane closures of the George Washington bridge, renna narrated a conversation she said she had with Bridget Kelly back in december when kelly told her to delete an email referring to the lane closures. The legislative committee has also subpoenaed christies chief Campaign Strategist and the onetime Campaign Manager of Rudy Giulianis 2008 president ial run. Well be right back. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Trwith secure wifie for your business. It also comes with public wifi for your customers. Not so with internet from the phone company. I would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. But that would require wifi. Switch to comcast Business Internet and get two Chris Matthews<\/a> in philadelphia. Let me start with Monica Lewinskys<\/a> new tell all about her time with bill clinton. Ive read the story. Its really about her, not so much the clintons. Its about what happened to her in the years since the world learned of her sexual involvement with a married\ramerican president. Will this encourage the republicans seeking to undermine Hillary Clinton<\/a>, that once charged sexual impropriety to go like henry vs band of brothers . But theres also a tough part of this article i read today by Monica Lewinsky<\/a>. She says the clintons dont care what happened to her, have no regard for whats become of her, what her future looks like. She hits them hard on how they tried to destroy her in order to free themselves from the facts, and this is the tough part of the new lewinsky narrative that republicans could use well between now and 2016. Its this charge how she makes the clintons, before the dna evidence was claimed, tried making her a scapegoat, someone clinton had no personal connection with, some stranger making false claims. That woman, as bill clinton referred to her in his infamous disclaimer, a loony tune, as\rHillary Clinton<\/a> said, a stalker, as a clinton aide was portraying her. Tonight, we discuss whether republicans are the stupid party and go after the story with the same piety or the shrewd party for the callous treatment of a young woman who got in the clintons political way. Howard fineman is an msnbc political analyst and nia Malika Henderson<\/a> is a National Political<\/a> reporter at the washington post. Howard, how did you see this . Did you read the article . When you read all the way through, you have to look, i think, as a political analyst, as you do and i do, and see where there might be ammo. Where i see it, its not again whether bill clinton did something wrong. We all know that, or whether Hillary Clinton<\/a> was hurt by it and embarrassed by it and we all know that, and actually how shes prevailed against it herself. But this whole question of whether the clintons were just too damned callous in trying to make her into a stalker and, of\rcourse, Hillary Clinton<\/a> called her a loony tune, bill clinton said that woman and almost didnt use her name, that attempt to minimize a person in order to get by a problem politically. That might sting. Your thoughts . Chris, i agree with you about the piece. I read the entire piece and the bomb shells are buried in the bottom at the end, where i think Monica Lewinsky<\/a> allows herself to unburden herself a bit of the bitterness she has about the campaign that was run against her. Chris, i lived through all this, i was at newsweek at the time writing about it. Mike isikoff was our lead reporter on the story. I saw it moment by moment from the inside, and i also saw the campaign that was run against Monica Lewinsky<\/a>. As she says in the piece, this was a consensual relationship, and then she was destroyed to the extent possible by the clinton administration. She says in the piece, you know,\ri was the unstable stalker, a phrase disseminated by the Clinton White<\/a> house. She goes on to say, the clinton administration, among others, were able to brand me, and that brand stuck. And as you say, she says they dont care about her fate. I think thats tough stuff. I think it goes to the question of what kind of people the clintons are as political leaders, if they are too ruthless by half, if they use people, even by the standards of politics, too harshly, and really, ironically, the danger to Hillary Clinton<\/a> may be as much among feminists, may be as much on the left as it could be on the right, if you want to look at Monica Lewinsky<\/a> and the way she was treated by the clintons in those times, and as i say, i lived through them all and saw them. Nia, seems to me the background has shifted. Back in the 90s, it was still sort of sex is bad, if you catch\rsomebody involved with it, you nail them, thats your got ya. Today, especially with whats happening over in nigeria, its about protection of women and nonexploitation of women and if the story shifts, the cosmos shift and instead of talking about whether he was naughty or not, which is not going to hurt bill clinton at all or Monica Lewinsky<\/a>, or Hillary Clinton<\/a>, its about whether you treat people, especially women, right. And i think the way monica wrote this story, i dont know her, but the way she wrote it was as a victim and as a victim of the clintons. Your thoughts . Well, thats right. You know, heres a situation that was, obviously, a private and consensual affair, had to do with bill clinton and Hillary Clinton<\/a>s marriage and, obviously, became very public. I think in some ways thats the way a lot of women look at this. This was something that was between the clintons and their marriage and in many ways, if you look at someone who might be on the other end of an affair like that, they probably would\rgo after sort of the inner loper in a marriage, so i think theres a sort of grand political narrative that republicans will try to stir up around this. No, no, no, Hillary Clinton<\/a>, the former secretary of state, even back then, never said there was something wrong with monica, except she wasnt telling the truth. She said she was a luny tune. She said that privately. That she was somehow not really involved with her husband, that she should be dismissed, her charges, that woman. The whole narrative was, dont believe her, until the blue dress and dna evidence, then they had to change the story. Right, right, they had to change the story and we heard about bill clinton sleeping on the couch, all that stuff. Yeah, thats very well documented. I mean, this isnt really new. I think what youre raising is whether or not in this context when people talk about the idea of shaming, whether or not people will sort of retroactively prosecute and criticize Hillary Clinton<\/a> for engaging in what would have been called really slut shaming\rback then, but so far it looks like if you look at, you know, the damage that did to Hillary Clinton<\/a> and the clintons, it really was none. Hillary clinton had her highest Approval Ratings<\/a> at that time, 65 , so it will be interesting if they can sort of retroactively paint her as antiwoman. Lets go to the politics, which is our strength, which is not morality, but politics. Lets look at the vanity fair article. Lewinsky talks candidly about her experiences being abused, abused, in the aftermath of the affair by the clintons and the media. She writes, their lives moved on, they occupy important and powerful places on the world stage, i wish them no ill and fully understand what happened to me and the issue of my future do not matter to either of them. Howard, thats buried, as you said, at the end of the piece. Why do you think that was thrown in there, this statement of callousness after this i dont hold any grudge, blah, blah, blah, but then statement of fact they dont care about me. Well, i think she does hold a\rgrudge, and i think if she says i dont bear them any ill will, doesnt mean she bears them any good will. From the passages i read also, chris, its clear to me, and i was surprised at her willingness to express her bitterness here about the campaign that was run against her. I mean, i agree with nia that back in the day when all this was happening, hillarys numbers could not have been higher, because hillary ended up being the victim. Hillary was the victim, and hillarys sort of stoic acceptance of reality in that situation and her willingness to move on and not sort of wreck the presidency was admired by many people. She was one of the most admired people. Very much so. But this is a peak. Lets also keep in mind here, chris, i mean, i agree with your analysis here. I think it shows the clintons in a bad light for the way they tried to destroy this woman, but\rit also is, to some degree, ancient history. Most people, young people especially, who are going to be critical in the primaries, who are going to be critical in the general election, this is this may as well be something out of 19th century pot boiler to them. The cultural context yes, but its all new to them, too. It cant be both old news and new news. Either they are learning this for the first time or they are tired of it. Which is it . I dont think this is the last weve heard from monica on this topic. I think shes basically saying here, if people would like to talk to me some more about how the clintons tried to destroy me personally, i might be willing to discuss that. Thats what i took from this, and if i were in the clinton world, i would look at this as a shot across the bow from Monica Lewinsky<\/a>. I really would. Thats right. And it also means that Hillary Clinton<\/a>, when she goes out there now, shes going to get questions about this. This is in the news, shes sitting down with an\rinterviewer, shes on her book tour, this is going to be a question she gets and who knows what shes going to say at this point. She hasnt talked about this in many, many years, but perhaps shell have some answer to this idea of whether or not she acted more as a wife or more as a sort of calculating political operative back when this was going on. Well, some conservatives are certainly going to try to make use of lewinskys article that just came out today to attack the clintons. Last night fox news guest host Laura Ingraham<\/a> used the lewinsky article to attack the clintons for their ruthlessness. I think Laura Ingraham<\/a> is smart here, but doesnt stay consistently smart later when talking to lynn cheney, whos not smart. Lets watch. When she became problematic for the clintons political ambitions, she was demeaned and discredited by the press and clinton protectors, including hillary herself. War on women . You bet. In the 1990s, the clintons pioneered it. Well, on fox later that night, lynn cheney told Laura Ingraham<\/a> that Hillary Clinton<\/a> orchestrated the lewinsky article, the one that just appeared. Heres cheney making her paranoid claim. I really wonder if this isnt an effort on the clintons part to get that story out of the way. Would vanity fair publish anything about Monica Lewinsky<\/a> that Hillary Clinton<\/a> didnt want in vanity fair . Thats very interesting. I love this theory. It actually makes perfect sense. Actually, laura, your earlier theory was much smarter, the opportunity was not going after the sexual impropriety and pretending to be pious themselves, which a whole string of scandals, david vitter, you want to go through the list . But going after people on callousness towards women, thats a smart move. Anyway, some republicans are hesitant to reli the lewinsky\raffair. Karl rove has questioned rand paul for beating up on Hillary Clinton<\/a> and conservative activist Grover Norquist<\/a>, who only wants to talk about taxes, fired this warning shot today, saying, this is the same trick the clintons pulled on us back in 98. We were distracted by this bright shiny object they handed out, which was Monica Lewinsky<\/a>. Maybe the same thing this time. Like in baseball if they throw out a bad pitch and you swing at it, youre an idiot. Is this guy, Grover Norquist<\/a>, crazy . He said the clintons had the scandal with Monica Lewinsky<\/a> to distract from, what, the tax issue . Are the republicans completely lewiny, to put out a piece attacking the marriage they had, building up Monica Lewinsky<\/a> with bill, then we had this whole thing somehow the 98 embarrassment of the country, not just the clintons, was orchestrated to distract from what issue . My answer is, i think yes. Your answer . Im not sure, but i do know this, if you read the whole article, theres no way this is something that the clintons would have wanted out there, because as i say, monica is basically advertising her bitterness and her resentment at the way she was destroyed by them, and thats a tantazing thing, as nia said, for other reporters to follow up on and to ask hillary about. Hillary, whos in the middle of polishing up the final details of her book, which i think is called hard choices, shes probably going to want to reread the portion that she wrote about the Monica Lewinsky<\/a> years in light of this. And as far as Grover Norquist<\/a> is concerned, even grover can be right for the wrong reason, okay, yes, all he cares about is the tax code, but i think hes got a point as far as the republicans are concerned. If they are going to try if they end up running against Hillary Clinton<\/a> and they try to run against her by doing a rerun, as you said, a rerun of the 90s, they are going to\rlose. I agree. I think thats right. I think Hillary Clinton<\/a> did something really wonderful in the late 90s, she was embarr s embarrassed, of course, personally embarrassed and anger at her husbands conduct, but she transcended that. Okay, i know a lot more about this guy bill than you do, i put it all into a total marital context of many years of marriage, and heres what, im going to carry on. She went up and campaigned for chuck schumer, she was magnificent. She ended up accepting really an invitation to run for senate in new york and had the guts to run for that office. She could have embarrassed herself then and lost. She didnt, she had the guts to run. So many things, how much guts that woman had. They stayed married. And nobody in politics is perfect. Thats the other thing ive learned, and ive stopped looking for it, perfection. Ill still look for it, but it aint there yet. Thank you, howard fineman, thank you, nia Malika Henderson<\/a>. Coming up, the frenzy over\rbenghazi heated up with the party out there shaking a tin cup raising money, believe it or not, over the death of Chris Stevens<\/a>. Remember when the americans got blown up in beirut in the 80s . Plus, those dreadful abductions and god knows what else of those schoolgirls in nigeria. All 20 female United States<\/a> starts have signed a bill to carry tough new sanctions on the group that carried them out. Amy klobuchar is going to join us, shes one of the leaders. Also, remember the 3 00 a. M. Phone call ad . An actual phone call, the angry one bill clinton made at 2 00 a. M. After he was called out by jim clyburn in South Carolina<\/a>. Finally, how the clintons should deal with monica. Dont hide from it. As Bobby Kennedy<\/a> would say, hang a lantern on your problem. This is hardball, the place for politics. Theres a saying around here,\ryou stand behind what you say. Around here you dont make excuses. You make commitments. And when you cant live up to them, you own up, and make it right. Some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where its needed most. But i know youll still find it when you know where to look. We are the thinkers. The job jugglers. The up allnighters. And the ones who turn ideas into action. Weve made our passions our lifes work. We strive for the moments where we can say, i did it we are entrepreneurs who started it all. With a signature. Legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses,\rturning dreamers into business owners. And were here to help start yours. Bridget kellys attorneys denying the accusations that she, kelly, ordered renna to destroy evidence. Attorney michael krichly says, we said we did not tell her to delete it. Well, yesterday before the state legislative Committee Investigating<\/a> the lane closures of the George Washington<\/a> bridge, renna narrated a conversation she said she had with Bridget Kelly<\/a> back in december when kelly told her to delete an email referring to the lane closures. The legislative committee has also subpoenaed christies chief Campaign Strategist<\/a> and the onetime Campaign Manager<\/a> of Rudy Giulianis<\/a> 2008 president ial run. Well be right back. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else<\/a> as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems<\/a> technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States<\/a>, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Trwith secure wifie for your business. It also comes with public wifi for your customers. Not so with internet from the phone company. I would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. But that would require wifi. Switch to comcast Business Internet<\/a> and get two Wifi Networks<\/a> included. Comcast business built for business. Welcome back to hardball. Any doubt that benghazi is a fundraising base mobilizing boondoggle for republicans was erased today. The National Republican<\/a> congressional committee, which fights for republicans to get elected to the house, sent out this fundraising email, stand with congressman trey gowdy and House Republicans<\/a> as we fight for the truth about what happened with the benghazi terrorist attack. Help fight liberals by donating today. Sounds like rush limbaugh. Earlier today, House Speaker<\/a> john boehner, who called for the establishment of a select committee to investigate benghazi reenforced it would be republicans main vehicle, their main vehicle of attack, this november. When is the administration going to tell the American People<\/a> the truth . Theyve not told them the truth about benghazi. Theyve not told the truth about the irs. Theyve not told the truth about fast and furious. Now, only one would have to guess if they are not willing to tell the American People<\/a> the truth, it must not be very\rpretty. Thanks. I think it was Jack Nicholson<\/a> who said you cant handle the truth. One writer recalls a string of attacks in beirut, lebanon, during Ronald Reagans<\/a> presidency back in the 80s. Mayor compares how lawmakers then investigating the attack, versus what republicans are doing now. Heres the timeline for what happened in beirut during those years, april 18th, 1983, militants bombed the embassy in beirut, killing 63 people. A suicide bomber drove an explosiveladen truck into u. S. Marine compound in beirut killing 241 servicemen. Three moents after a bipartisan report on the Marine Barracks<\/a> bombing, militants again struck, this time kidnapping, torturing, and murdering a cia station chief. In september 1984, for the third time in 13 months, jihadists bombed an outpost in beirut. Again, 21 people were killed,\rincluding two americans. Following the horrific bombing of the Marine Barracks<\/a>, a Bipartisan House Committee<\/a> investigated. Jane mayor writes tip oneal was no pushover. He, like todays opposition leaders in the house, demanded an investigation, but a real one, and only one. Instead of playing it for political points a House Committee<\/a> undertook a Serious Investigation<\/a> over what went wrong in beirut and two months later issued a report, as well as responsibility up through the military chain of command and called for better security measures against terrorism in u. S. Government installations throughout the world. In other words, Congress Actually<\/a> undertook a useful investigation and made helpful recommendations. Well, david corns an msnbc political analyst and brian is a senior fellow at the center for american progress. Thank you, gentlemen, for joining us. David, and brian, youre both up to date on this. I remember, im going to start with this, after the horrific\rbombing of our Marine Barracks<\/a> in october of 83, speaker oneal, tip oneal, myboss, stuck with the president. They stayed together on this without any real fingerpointing all the way through until the following year, and it wasnt until reagan basically said, were pulling out but didnt tell anybody and after tip said we should pull out that it got bitter and negative, but for a long period there, including the period they had the Committee Investigating<\/a> it, it was bipartisan. Your thoughts, david . You know, chris, that was a great example of government working as it should, and its not the only example. After 9 11, democrats and some republicans in congress pushed for an independent bipartisan, fully bipartisan, commission, the 9 11 commission. Were all familiar with the great job it did. Also, during the iran contra investigation, arthur lyman, the director, the staff director of the senate committee, which was controlled by democrats, said very early on, were not going to get into impeachment on this, even though some members of\rreagans own circle feared that it might be impeachable, so he right away took politics out of this. Again and again and again we have really good examples in history of a tragedy happening and investigation being put under way to see what happened and to prevent it from happening again, not investigations into talking points, not having a House Speaker<\/a> come out and saying they are lying. Where . You know, john boehner should not be allowed to say that without coming forward and saying what is the lie, what did they get wrong and evaluating it. Brian, not only are they raising money on this, the way they sell the story is, Chris Stevens<\/a> and the other americans are dead because of the democrats p. R. Campaign. An absurd sort of taking what happened afterwards, which they can argue about, to what happened at the time. They keep trying the rightwing trick, conflated. And somehow make this absurd charge that was described afterwards on meet the press led to the death of chris\rstevens and the other americans. This is what tip oneal never did back then, 9 11, as david points out, nobodys running around saying somebody had to be blamed. They tried to understand how this thing could happen. Terrorism was coming at us and we try to figure it out before figure out whose fault it was. Your thoughts . I got back from beirut a couple of days ago, i saw our ambassador and personnel. Our exclusive focus should be protecting these individuals. These individuals are serving and sacrificing for our country, and this investigation thats just been announced has nothing at all to do about enhancing the security and the effectiveness of our diplomatic professionals. It is simply the Republican Party<\/a> trying to raise money off the deaths of four americans serving their country in benghazi, and weve had multiple investigations, 25,000 pages of reports coming from investigations, and the state department, the pentagon, others, have enhanced their procedures. Theyve learned from the\rmistakes that were made, and there were mistakes made in benghazi, but theres no coverup, but my main point is this, those people that are sitting in our embassies overseas, that should be our exclusive focus and thats not what the Republican Party<\/a>s talking about right now. You know, in graphic, bigtime terms, talking about beirut and the particulars back then in 83 and 84, but david, seems to me the democrats never crassly blamed w. For 9 11. They joined in a bipartisan, truly Bipartisan Campaign<\/a> to go to afghanistan and try to get the people who were behind it. They really did try to get together and try to catch bin laden. It was all united. This, after this tragedy, the reaction has been, how can we blame the other side, and its really different, not just from beirut, but all these tragedies. Every time you get hit by terrorist, its going to be by surprise, not expected, and youre going to have to deal with it and pay for it and people are going to get killed and hurt, and you dont go every\rtime and try to raise money on it, i dont think. Thats not good politics. You remember back in the beirut attack, particularly the one on the marines, that at that point in time, reagan and others had been warned that keeping the marines deployed in that fashion could lead to a major disaster. Yet he still did it, and we lost 241 lives, on top of the other dozens that came before and after, and even after that, even after that, democrats were not calling for impeachment, calling for his scalp, they were asking what went wrong on the ground, in the chain of command. They didnt make it a campaign issue. You could even argue they should have, but they chose not to, and it seems to me this notion we ban together after something goes wrong, try to figure out what happened and how to make things improve is totally out the window and its all about getting out the base, appealing to the most extreme elements of the Republican Party<\/a>. Oh, yes, and making a buck. And does that surprise anyone at\rthis stage of the game . I hope it doesnt. Its like being on a ship somewhere, a warship, and youve just been attacked and instead of responding with gun fire, you sit around the deck of the ship complaining about who didnt see them coming. Thats what were doing now. Thank you, david corn and brian. Coming up, a side of Hillary Clinton<\/a> we dont usually see. Thats next on the side show, and this is hardball, the place for politics. I always say be the man with the plan but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive, i had to do something. I saw my doctor. A blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. We talked about axiron the only underarm low t treatment that can restore t levels to normal in about two weeks in most men. Axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. Women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. Report these symptoms to your doctor. Tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. Serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer, worsening prostate symptoms, decreased sperm count, ankle, feet or body swelling, enlarged or painful breasts, problems breathing while sleeping and blood clots in the legs. Common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied, increased red blood cell count, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. Ask your doctor about axiron. And im his mom at the dog park. The kids get trail mix, and heres what you get after a full day of chasing that cute little poodle from down the street. Mm hmm delicious milos kitchen chicken meatballs. They look homemade, which he likes almost as much as making new friends yes, ill call her. Aww, ladies man. Milos kitchen. Made in the usa with chicken or beef as the number one ingredient. The best treats come from the kitchen. [ female announcer ] we eased your back pain, you turned up the fun. Tylenol\u00ae provides strong pain relief while being gentle on your stomach. But for everything we do, we know you do so much more. Tylenol\u00ae. Transit fares as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. No . Oh, right. Youre thinking of the 1. 6 million daily Customer Care<\/a> interactions xerox handles. Or the 900 Million Health<\/a> insurance claims we process. So, its no surprise to you that companies depend on todays xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. Which is. Pretty much what weve always stood for. With xerox, youre ready for real business. Kentucky republican senator rand paul and media magnet Rupert Murdoch<\/a> spent the day together at the Kentucky Derby<\/a>. Theres a speculation could sign a murdoch endorsement. Nation, i love the hot new rupert and rand paul their own fun nickname, ru paul. Work it. Time now for the side show. That was, of course, Stephen Colbert<\/a> on senator rand pauls courtship, if you will, of Rupert Murdoch<\/a> at the Kentucky Derby<\/a> saturday, but when it comes to the president ial horse race, murdoch isnt placing any bets just yet. Anyway, next up, speculation about Hillary Clinton<\/a>s 2016 plans have intensified as the media refocuses its intention on the politics of the late 90s, but on his show last night, jimmy kimmel noted former secretary clinton has been at ease lately, even when sharing some of the more intimate details of her life. Take a listen. Hillary clinton gave a keynote address in maryland. She also held a q a session afterwards, and things got surprisingly personal. What is your guilty pleasure . Lets see. Are there that many . Well, im just trying to think of, you know, the grated one. Well, hello, madam secretary. Next up, torontos rob ford sen joying rehab so much hes already calling it the best decision he ever made. In fact, the embattled mayor of toronto told the toronto sun rehab, he minds me of football camp, kind of like the Washington Redskins<\/a> camp as a kid. Ford didnt tell the sun when hell leave rehab but he will be out in time for the october election. Thats good rehab. Coming up, american crackdown on the Islamic Group<\/a> responsible for the kidnappings in nigeria. Youre watching hardball, the place for politics. But i dont want my breathing problems to get in the way\rof hosting my book club. Thats why i asked my doctor about breo. Oncedaily breo ellipta helps increase airflow from the lungs for a full 24 hours. And breo helps reduce symptom flareups that last several days and require oral steroids, antibiotics, or hospital stay. Breo is not for asthma. Breo contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. It is not known if this risk is increased in copd. Breo wont replace rescue inhalers for sudden copd symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. Breo may increase your risk of pneumonia, thrush, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. Tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high Blood Pressure<\/a> before taking breo. Ask your doctor about breo for copd. First prescription free at mybreo. Com live in the same communities that we serve. People here know that our operations have an impact locally. Were using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. The trucks are reliable, thats good for business. But they also reduce emissions, and thats good for everyone. It makes me feel very good about the future of our company. With diabetes, its tough to keep life balanced. I dont always have time to eat like i should. And the more i focus on everything else, the less time i have to take care of me. Thats why i like glucerna shakes. They have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. Glucerna products help me keep everythibalanced. crash ugh im good. Well, almost everything. [male announcer] glucerna. Delicious shakes and bars. Im craig melvin with your headlines. The house voted to hold lois lerner in contempt of congress. She failed to testify twice about the irs. President obama flew to arkansas to view the devastation caused by the deadly tornados just a week ago. He also pledged federal help to rebuild. And former secretary of state Hillary Clinton<\/a> calls the kidnapping of schoolgirls in nigeria a act of trm. And First Lady Michelle Obama<\/a> tweeted our prayers are with the missing girls and their families. Its time to bring back our girls. Now, back to hardball. When you take over 200 girls at one time, having killed almost 4,000 people in two years, it draws the nation and the worlds attention for the immediacy of getting this thug. Lets kill the cancer. Lets drag out this vile person, who again, as i indicated, i just cant hold up this money often enough. This is it. This is slavery. Thats u. S. Congresswoman Sheila Jackson<\/a> lee of texas with very strong words about that horror over in nigeria, where those hundreds of schoolgirls were taken prisoner and apparently are being sold into slavery. Two u. S. Senators are joining me now, senator Amy Klobuchar<\/a> of minnesota and Susan Collins<\/a> of maine. Let me go to senator klobuchar, tell us what we know about it, what the limits are what we can do and perhaps what the real potential is to get these girls saved. Senator klobuchar. Chris, we know the 276 girls taken by gun point, kidnapped p boko haram, which literally means western education is\rsinful. What we know is some of the girls have escaped, so we have some information, but most of them are still in captivity. The leader of boko haram has said, in fact, he is selling these girls into sex slavery, some for 12 a person. We do not know if thats true, and so what we have asked for, senator collins, the women of the senate, have come together and said, first of all, the u. N. Has to declare boko haram as a terrorist organization. Our government already has, and then we need to bring together international resources, which we are sending over now today weve learned france, Great Britain<\/a> is, counterterrorism, we have to send over counterintelligence, we have to get people involved that can do hostage negotiating. Right now, we do not know where these girls are, but we do know that the world is watching. For three weeks this was off the radar screen, and we know people were very understandably focused on the Malaysia Airlines<\/a> and all the passengers and that horrible tragedy, but you look at this as\r276 girls and the world just cannot let this happen. Well, i dont think it will. Ive seen the front pages now, youre right, senator klobuchar, partially because of your outrage its gotten to the front page and senator collins, seems to come down to what we do. Is it a s. E. A. L. Team operation, is it a drone operation, how is it where you go in with a few men and you kill some people, is that what its about . When i listen to Sheila Jackson<\/a> lee from texas, sounds like shes got it figured out. It isnt a big army operation, its a very exquisite operation, like the way the israelis did it, kill the people in your face and free the people. Your thoughts. Well, first of all, weve lost three weeks in trying to locate these schoolgirls, and that just breaks my heart and is inexcusable. It seems to me that the Nigerian Government<\/a> should have asked us for help sooner, but also that\rthe administration should have offered help sooner. In my judgment from the conversations that ive had with military experts, it would be possible to put in some special forces into nigeria. Once we locate these girls and rescue them. We ought to at least try. In uganda, we have special forces that are going after criminal that is making soldiers out of young boys. Why shouldnt we have the same kind of effort to rescue these innocent schoolgirls before they are either sold into slavery, forced into marriages at very young ages, and also required to convert. This is just a horrible situation, and the whole world ought to be outraged. But the fact is, the United States<\/a> is the country that has\rthe most assets that can be put to use, and were very good at these kinds of operations. Senator, lets listen to what former senator and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton<\/a> had to say today. The seizure of these young women by this radical extremist group, boko haram, is abomina e abominable, its criminal, its an act of terrorism, and it really merits the fullest response possible, first and foremost, from the government of nigeria. The government of nigeria has been, in my view, somewhat derelict in its responsibility toward protecting boys and girls, men and women, in Northern Nigeria<\/a> over the last years. Senator klobuchar, bring us up to date. To what extent has the Nigerian Government<\/a> accepted our offer of\rhelp . Well, they have just accepted our offer of help. We understand from secretary kerry we were working from the beginning, but president jonathan of nigeria was sending signals out they had it under control, they were getting the girls. That was not the case. The World Economic<\/a> forum is going to be there in nigeria, and i hope this is a major topic. This isnt just in nigeria this is happening. Millions of girls are sold into broth brothels, sold as sex slaves, the average age is 16. To talk to the mexican attorney general, head of the federal police are starting to get a handle on it there. If we want to elevate girls and women and make this part of our foreign policy, this is something thats just waiting to happen. It is something we could do with the rest of the world. We have our own problem in the United States<\/a>, 83 of the\rvictims are from our own country, and we literally should make this a major part of our foreign policy, because when we lift girls, we lift women and they participate in democracy and the economy, we have a much better, stronger, stable country an a much better, stronger, stable world. Thank you so much, senator Amy Klobuchar<\/a> of minnesota and senator Susan Collins<\/a> of maine. Well be right back. What if a photo could build that shelf youve always wanted . Or fix a leaky faucet . Or even give you your saturday back . The new snapfix app revolutionizes local service. Just snap a photo and angies list coordinates a toprated provider to do the work on your schedule. The app makes it easy. The power of angies list makes it work. Download snapfix for free. Thank you. Thank you. I got this. Oh, no, ill get it let me get it. Uhuhuh. I dont want you to pay for this. Its not happening, honey. Let her get it. She got her safe driving bonus check\rfrom allstate last week. And its her treat. What about a tip . Oh, heres one. Get an allstate agent. Nice [ female announcer ] switch today and get two safe driving bonus checks a year for driving safely. Only from allstate. Call 8669056500 now. Here we go hold on man. Is that a leak up there . Thats a drip. Whoo. Okay. Aah. Now thats a leak. That is a leak and if you dont have allstate renters insurance. Game over. [ female announcer ] protect your valuables from things like water damage for as low as 4 a month when you add renters insurance to your allstate auto policy. Call 8669056500 now. Plus, drivers who switched saved an average of 498 a year. Just a few more ways allstate is changing Car Insurance<\/a> for good. [ female announcer ] call an allstate agent and get a quote now. Whats it like to get an angry phone call from bill clinton at 2 00 in the morning . Well thats ahead. Hardball back after this. What super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. Before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. [ male announcer ] just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. [ corrine ] super poligrip is part of my life now. Or how ornate the halls are. Tall the building is, to seal out more food particles. It doesnt matter if there are granite statues, or big mahogany desks. When working with an investment firm, whats really important is whether the people behind the desks actually stand behind what they say. Introducing the schwab accountability guarantee. If youre not happy with one of our participating Investment Advisory<\/a> services, well refund your program fee from the previous quarter. Its no guarantee against loss and other fees and expenses may still apply. Chuck vo standing by your word, thats what matters the most. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. She can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. My mom works at ge. So senator obama is complaining because of his stature, any attack from bill clinton carries with it extra weight. He says if youre talking about things that arent factually correct, according to him, then youre building that up beyond all sense of proportion. Is bill clinton out of bounds here on this . Well, i think as they would say, he needs to chill a little bit. And i hope he understands what that means. Were back. Remember that fight between the Congressional Black Caucus<\/a> and bill clinton back in 2008 . Well, now were learning more\rabout it. It all started when bill clinton said this during the New Hampshire<\/a> primary. Well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didnt know how you would have voted on the resolution, you said in 2004 there was no difference between you and george bush on the war, and you took that speech youre now running on off your website in 2004 and theres no difference in your voting record and hillarys ever since. Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairytale ive ever seen. Fairytale, that fairytale comment almost led to the highest ranking congressman jim clyburn to end his neutrality before the South Carolina<\/a> primary between Hillary Clinton<\/a> and barack obama. Then the day before the South Carolina<\/a> primary, bill clinton said this. Jesse jackson won in South Carolina<\/a> twice in 84 and 88 and he ran a Good Campaign<\/a>, and senator obamas ran a Good Campaign<\/a> here. Clintons mention of jackson was seen by a racially tinged\rcriticism of president obamas candidacy. Clyburn wrote about the phone call he received from the former president following Hillary Clinton<\/a>s South Carolina<\/a> thumping. Its in his new blessed experience. Clyburn says, quote, his powerful voice came on the phone. The you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one. I had no need to identify that voice, it was bill clinton. He exploded using the word bastard again and accused me of causing her defeat and injecting race into the contest. Well, clyburn and clinton have since made their piece. Jim clyburn is a democrat from South Carolina<\/a> and author of blessed experience. Well, you know, mr. Clyburn, thanks for joining us. Blessed experience that experience dont seem to jibe. Tell me how it all fit into your political memoir. Thank you so much for having me, chris. The fact of the matter is, as i\rsaid in my preface to the book, all of my experiences have not been pleasant. But when i look back on them, all of them have been blessings. And that really was a blessing, but not i didnt feel that way at the time. I believe that i learned a lot during that primary. I learned a lot writing this book, about myself, about the people with whom ive interacted over the years, and i do believe that bill clinton and i are on very good terms these days and i think that we will be working together for the democrats going forward. You know, i dont think youd call enemies up at 2 00 in the morning, because i know enough about politics to know that you dont want to alert them to what you really think of them. It seems to me it was an act of a weird kind of friendship. 2 00 in the morning, he calls you up. You were asleep, i guess, were\ryou . And you were like, wait a minute, this was my old pal, giving me a lot of stuff here. What was your emotional reaction to that call . How did you react when bill clinton, the former president , comes on with that distinctive voice of his . Well, i was not asleep. I usually stay up pretty late on election nights. And that was the night of the primary election and i was awake. But i was caught being off guard. I listened for a long time, before i replied. And when i did, i simply asked the president to tell me why he thought i had violated the neutrality that i had promised the Democratic National<\/a> committee i would maintain during that primary. Of course, he felt that what i said injected race into the campaign. All i was saying was that we have to be very careful how we\rdeal with that civil rights period and who should get credit for it. Thats what started all of this. I dont believe that Lyndon Johnson<\/a> was anymore important than Martin Luther<\/a> king jr. They played different roles. We all have roles to play. And king played his role, johnson played his role, and as you know, chris, youve written about it, president kennedy laid a foundation back in 1963. I dont know whether or not king would have felt the way he did had he not started his interactions with john f. Kennedy. So everybody had a role to play, and i dont know that any one of them was anymore important than the other. And you will find those kinds of experiences throughout this book. When i worked across the aisle to get certain things done, simply because i needed somebody\relse in a different role, sometimes even across the other side of the capitol to get things done. So thats what this book is all about. I thought about those tenth graders i used to quiche, as i wrote this book, and i wanted this book to be something that every young boy or girl, especially those who have had experiences like ive had, to gain something from it, learn from it, be motivated by it, and be able to really look upon all of their experiences, however unpleasant they might be, as possible blessings. Well, im going to go read it. The name of the book is blessed experience. And after i read it, congressman, im going to have you on the talk about my questions. You have just sized up the great old reason why Thomas Jefferson<\/a> said, when youre mad, count to ten. When youre really mad, count to a hundred before you talk. Anyway, u. S. Congressman james clyburn, author of blessed experience. Well be right back. Alright, that should just about do it. Excuse me, what are you doing . Uh, well we are fine tuning these small cells that improve coverage, capacity and quality of the network. It means youll be able t post from the breakroom. Great did it hurt . When you fell from heaven awkward laugh . A little. laughs im sorry, i have to go. At t is building you a better network. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else<\/a> as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems<\/a> technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States<\/a>, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Smoking with chantix. As a police officer, ive helped many people in the last 23 years. But i needed help in quitting smoking. Along with support, Chantix Varenicline<\/a> is proven to help people quit smoking. Chantix reduced the urge for me to smoke. It actually caught me by surprise. Some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. If you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. Tell your doctor about any history of Mental Health<\/a> problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. Dont take chantix if youve had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. If you develop these, stop chantix and\rsee your doctor right away as some could be life threatening. Tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or if you develop new or worse symptoms. Get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. Use caution when driving or operating machinery. Common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. I did not know what it was like to be a nonsmoker. But i do now. Ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. Now, thats progressive. Let me finish tonight with the great advice i attribute to the late robert kennedy. Hang a lantern on your problem. I headed my first book, hardball, back in 88. I think it carries a tremendous value to old, young, and in between. Im talking here about the inbetweens, the clintons. There is nothing more far fetched, i believe, for the clintons to act as if the Monica Lewinsky<\/a> episode didnt occur. Everyone knows it did, everyone. Since everyone knows it occurred, speak and act accordingly. It was bad for the country, bad for al gore, who ultimately paid the price for it, and certainly,\rit appears, for Monica Lewinsky<\/a>. What was bad about it was, i could argue, was the readiness of the clinton and those around them to deny the very existence of miss lewinsky. That was the game plan, portray her as a nut job who made up the story. And that game plan came to a crashing halt once the blue dress left its hanger in the closet. Dna is one tough competitor when you zgo into the courtroom of public opinion. All that said, nobodys perfect, and in politics, ive discovered, none are even close. Politics as a profession is about getting to the goal. The goal is the necessity. That being the case, theres always the problem of deciding if the ends justifies the means. The dumping on Monica Lewinsky<\/a> was a way to protect the presidency, haul away. I dont think this condemns anyone. It shows the moral or the callousness of which the clintons were capable. This is me talking, someone whos been looking for perfection in politics all my life and continues to, but recognizing that all we have to","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"https:\/\/vimarsana.com\/images\/vimarsana-bigimage.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240618T12:35:10+00:00"}