He later spoke out against the war and promised to bring that experience to the white house as commander in chief. What conservatives did next was shameful. They launched a swift boat ad smearing his war record, trying to drag him down into the mud. A few years later, they tried it again against another democratic nominee, but it hasnt worked. You can keep trying to smear and lie, but after a while, truth will rise again. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Impeach me. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in
washington. Let me start tonight with what could be a battle between president obama and the republican congress. The stakes are these. Can congress destroy a president s ability to destroy the vital problems facing the country, a broken immigration system, aging and decaying infrastructure . Can a partisan house of representatives sabotage the working of the democracy, kill a presidency in broad daylight . Uh now to the weapons. The speaker of the house is suing the president trying to eliminate his flexibility in carrying out the signature act of the administration the Affordable Care act. They are asking the courts to put him in an administrative straitjacket. The president has his own threat in the wings. Someone leaked and hes planning to issue work permits to millions of people who entered the country illegally. In other words hes planning to take over immigration policy personally placing whats normally a congressional power into his own hands. The war between the president and congress escalates as the hours pass. The question isnt just who will win but what is the fight doing
to the country . I cant think of anyone it makes happy. Can you . Jonathan capehart is an opinion writer and msnbc contributor. Robert costa is a reporter with the washington post. President obama may be writing a major policy offensive on an issue guaranteed to incite the Republican Party base. Here it is. The Associated Press reports white house officials are making plans to act through executive action before novembers midterm elections to grant work permits to potentially millions of immigrants who are in this country illegally allowing them to stay in the United States without threat of deportation according to advocates and lawmakers in touch with the administration. Hes throwing down the gauntlet. All right, you dont like Affordable Care, how about this . I will issue work permits. Saying i decide who stays in this country. Its a bold move on the president. Is it legal . Constitutional . We have to see what hes
going to do. A leaked story isnt about what the president may or may not do. Its not reality until he steps before the American People and says this is what im doing and why. Immigration reform and the issue is going to start with barack obama. What does it say in political terps to the speaker of the house . Hes getting back at the speaker for not doing immigration reform. He says if the house wont act he will. He can get the progressive activists out in 2014. Hes sending a signal to them. What does it say to the republican right when he says, you think youre the boss . Im the boss. It riles boehner, rile it is republican base. It says to the American People that things are so broken here in washington that i have to do something. Its part of the message from
40 , 50 of the country. Who will buy the message besides the liberal base . Good question. Look, we are basically a 50 50 country. Until the president stands up there and says what hes going to do we dont know what the reaction is. Its a dangerous game. We dont know how it will play out until he does it. So smart. Let me ask about impeachment. The republicans have their foot on the gas. Some of the right wingers pushing this. You talked to scalise. At the same time the speaker is not exactly known for calling the shots on capitol hill and is trying to hold it back. Republicans in the congress and those running for office have impeachment. Now the Republican Party base wants president obama gone. 57 , a Strong Majority of republicans in this country want him prosecuted and removed from office. That anger will only grow as he acts alone on immigration. Today House Speaker john boehner
tried to douse the flames of impeachment which backfired in historic fashion. In the midterms they tried to get rid of bill clinton. Here is boehner trying to put water on the fire. This whole talk about impeachment is coming from the president s own staff and coming from democrats on capitol hill. Why . Because they are trying to rally their people to give money and show up in this years election. We have no plans to impeach the president. No future plans. Listen, its all a scam started by democrats at the white house. Apparently speaker boehners own top Leadership Team didnt get the message. We showed you the new whip, Steve Scalise refused to take impeachment off the table two days ago. Here he is refusing to say where he stands. Will you consider impeaching
the president . You know, this is the First White House . History trying to start the narrative of impeaching the president. We want the president to follow the laws. The president took an oath to faithfully execute the laws. Impeachment is off the table . Can t white house wants to talk about impeachment. They are trying to fundraise off that, too. Im asking you, sir. The white house will try to do anything to change the topic from the president s failed agenda. Chris wallace was mannerly and they wouldnt answer. I talked to scalise and asked him three times did he stick by the comments on sunday to chris wallace. He said he did. I said do you refuse to rule out impeaching the president. He wouldnt give me a clear answer. He said at this moment we are not trying to impeach the president. It leave it is door open. If the speaker speaks for the house which he doesnt, so im setting up a joke that hes calling the shots and the
republican majority says lets impeach the guy. This is real. You hear the people in the back water people talking it up. What Michele Bachmann talking it up, sarah palin. They dont think the boehner lawsuit is enough. There are a lot of them. I spoke to king. He was talking about impeachment if obama moved on immigration supposedly on work permits hell move forward. Here we are, tuesday. They have only a few days before they go home and try to relax somewhere, i guess. The president is saying, okay, sue me which im not sure is a cool thing to say. But hi said it. Now threatening impeachment, hes saying the number one issue, immigration, i will do on my own and issue work permits. He knows how it will play out. Does he want to fight . Hes spoiling for a fight and
knows republicans will fight. Conservatives wont accept this. They will go at him ahead of the midterms. This is base politics. It will activate the progressives. They are already. P. T. Barnum said if you want a crowd, start a fight. Hes trying to have a big fight. They have been fighting, chris. This ratchets it up. I know, but they have been fighting since the debt ceiling craziness in 2011. If you give your neighbor a mean stare in the morning you pay for it. Thats different from suing the guy. A lawsuit prelude to impeachment, i never believed the lawsuit was anything other than a first step its not an alternative. Hes hitting the republicans in the sore spot. He knows this divides the republican ranks. Hes going at it ahead of the midterms. So where are we going . Youre out there watching. Boehner says
we are not getting anything past congress on immigration. Nothing. Nothing. They have decided to screw the guy to use common vernacular so he gets nothing done. Just to be fair and clearminded here, the democrats are exploiting this. Look at the money. Democratic fundraiser love the impeachment fever. The Congressional Fund raising arm brought in 2. 1 million in online donations over the weekend. The best fourday haul of the current election cycle. A million 24 hours this monday. The white house may not have started the fight, but it is clear they dont want it to go away. Josh ernest was asked about boehners comments that he has no plans to impeach the president. Here is the response. I suspect there may be members of the republican conference that didnt receive the memo. We have seen comments in recent months from congressman steve king from iowa, congressman ted
yoho from florida, congressman lou barleta, Steve Stockman from texas. Blake farenthold raised the prospect. We have seen kerry bentavolio oh from michigan call it a dream come true. That was the manifest from the clown car. Steve king and barleta. The idea that the dccc and democrats are raising money over impeachment fever, it would be malpractice if they didnt do this. Explain why the core democrats shell out money because there is an impeachment drive. Why does it make you give money . Its about embarrassing the president , embarrassing their guy. As you have been saying putting an asterisk next to his name in
the history books. Besmirching him. They have long viewed president obama as under siege by republicans and certainly since republicans took over the house in the midterms then. They will do everything they can to protect their guy, have his back. If they will talk impeachment. We all know it. You can have the ability to write comments to columns in the post. Your power is unlimited. You write a column. Someone has a comment all over the wires. Whas to stop the people in the clown car that was mentioned by the White House Press secretary . Who says they wont make more noise than boehner makes . And 57 of people agree with the clown car. Its a strategy to run
against steve king, taking a few of the right wing congressmen and trying to run a whole Midterm Campaign strategy. Thats why they have a voice. When he made the comments hes a birther. That wasnt this week. That was last year at a town hall meeting. August of 2013. Do you think its possible to impeach someone whos not in the country legally . Thats logical. Youre thinking logically. A lot of them have never been logical. Your question is a fair one. Do you want to have the kids in school . Grandkids, great grandkids. They want to see pictures of the president and george w. Bush and then the next republican
president. They dont want obama on the list. They dont want him there. They dont want him on the list of american president s . Whos they . The haters who want him out of office, to say he wasnt here legally, birthers, people that dont want him passing anything. They want to say he was a complete and utter failure because they cant stand that hes president. Thank you jonathan capehart. I appreciate the opportunity to tutor guests. Coming up, joni ernst, the hog castrater from iowa thinks states can nullify federal law. The idea was nullified by the civil war. Democrats hope they have found another todd aiken in the pen, so to speak. And new audio of nixon. Agreeing to give Teddy Kennedy secret Service Protection until the 1972 president ial election was over. After that he said, if he gets
shot, too damn bad. Thats a quote you will hear. Could you live on a minimum wage for a week . Ted strickland received a lot of attention for trying and failing. What do you get when you combine funny or die, canada and me . The sideshow which you wont want to miss tonight. Youre watching hardball canada. We begin to discuss all things canadian and get to the bottom of what its all about. Let me explain thats not how i speak. This is hardball, the place for politics. We have a new batch of polls in the 2016 president ial race. No one within Single Digits of hillary clinton. Lets check the hardball score board. She leads Chris Christie by 10 points 5040. Rand paul, trails by 11. 5241. Jeb bush is down 13. Clinton, 52, bush 39. Well be right back. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Thats why i always choose the fastest intern. R slow. The fastest printer. The fastest lunch. Turkey club. The fastest pencil sharpener. The fastest elevator. The fastest speed dial. The Fastest Office plant. So why wouldnt i choose the fastest wifi . I would. Switch to comcast Business Internet and get the fastest wifi included. Comcast business. Built for business. Im joni ernst. I grew up castrating hogs on an iowa farm. So when i get to washington i can cut pork. That was the ad that launched a political career for the nomination to u. S. Senate seat in iowa. In 2014 Republican Party leaders have been intent to avoid the 2010 and 2012 races when extreme candidates like Christine Odonnell and sharon angle cost winnable seats not to mention todd aiken and Richard Murdock whose comments about womens reproductive systems led to them being known as the rape candidates. Ernst military career and folksy background was supposed to
inoculate her but the longer it goes on the less main stream she seems. Shes open to impeaching president obama and called him a dictator before walking it back. She cosponsored a personhood amendment to the iowa constitution to give human embryos full rights at conception. She told the Des Moines Register she has reason to believe there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. New video shows she believes states can nullify federal law. You know we have talked about this at the state legislature before, nullification. Bottom line is, as a u. S. Senator, why should we be passing laws that the states are considering nullifying . I mean that is thats, bottom line, is our legislators at the federal level should not be passing those laws. And we are right. Thats right in that aspect is
that we have gone 200plus years of federal legislators going against the tenth amendment and states rights. We are way overstepping bounds as federal legislators. So, bottom line, no, we should not be passing laws as federal legislators, senators or congressmen that the states would even consider nullifying. Bottom line. In that video she references the tenth amendment which says generally powers not specifically delegated to the federal government are reserved to the state. Thats a popular amendment on the far right. In Iowa Democrats hope republicans may have another sharon angle or todd aiken. Joining me is msnbc analyst joan walsh and republican strategist john braybender. We reached out for her campaigns reaction and got this reaction from a campaign spokesperson. Bruce b are raley is so
desperate that hes once again waging a dirty and false campaign. Joni has not and does not endorse or support nullification. She said in a couple of references in the tape that she does believe states can nullify a federal law. Now shes put out the word that her opponent leaked it when we have it on tape. What do we make of her position on nullifications which was a reason for the civil war . The south believed they could say state by state, south carolina, georgia, the federal government pass as law on slavely for example they could ignore it, nullify it. The whole question in a sense is a clay citiness of washington. Well have the conversation. What does she mean about nullification. What do you think . I dont know. Does the word mean something . The context shefts saying to people in iowa was youre not going to do this. No, no. The word has a particularly
historic meaning. According to the dictionary its the action of a state impeding or attempting to prevent the operation and endorsement within its territory of a law of the United States. It has a particular meaning but ernst wasnt specifically referring to race. Nullification has racial overtones because it was over the issue of slavery and nullification of antislavery laws in the civil war. You want to get into constitutional law of what she was saying about nullification. The truth is in a common sense way she was saying, you know what, in iowa we shouldnt have to li by everything they do in washington. Its the federal government. When they do something stupid and know nobody wants to live by it they shouldnt do it. Youre saying shes saying something different. Im not. John, you just said something completely common sense. Im a democrat. Youre a republican. You put it in a clear way. Thats great. You are entitled to say that. When you leap out and start talk thing about nullification you either know what you are doing
or youre stupid and you dont. Nullification has a particular meaning. States rights has a connotation. Nullification came back into vogue under barack obama when states started saying they were nullifying obamacare. Do you know what happened . This is hilarious. The heritage foundation, of all places, had to say, hey, guys, stop calling it nullification. We know you like that word. But thats unconstitutional. States cant nullify federal law. She may know what shes doing. Shes using a buzz word. Shes getting a thrill from it. Now shes been caught. You say we are not allowed what she meant. Youre off, john. There is every right is she deceiving voters saying the states can nullify federal law. I dont think that was the conte context. You can ask her anything she wants but she has the right to say what she wants. You do not have the right to put in context how she said it. Thats the part i have a problem
with. Your saying heres what she meant. [ speaking simultaneously ] this is what americans mean by nullification. In kins great speech he said i have a dream. He spoke of nullification saying i have a dream that one day down in alabama with its vicious raci racists, with its governor having the lips dripping tt words of interposition and nullification, one day little black boys and girls will join hands with white boys and girls assisters and brothers. Thats the most famous reference to nullification there is. How can you say people in iowa havent heard the speech . It wasnt in that context. If i said four score, im not talking 20 years these days. Do you want me to play it again . This is what happens in washington . We take single words that make perfect sense and parse them and try to make it a code word. I dont believe she was saying
it. She said it to the iowa state and Freedom Coalition in a particular context she used the word more than one time, john. Shes created a problem for herself. She made it look to some people like maybe shes too far right for iowa. Which voted for barack obama twice, i might add. Do you think shes stupid . No. You said in your first Opening Statement that either she said this as a code word or shes stupid. Its easy for me to take it out of context. I dont believe you were calling her stupid. Thank you. Thats what happens in washington politics. I will you are defending her, so let me go further. We do the same thing with barack obama sometimes, too. Hell Say Something that we are going to jump over it. I will give you a good example. When he said the thing that they didnt build it. If you look up the whole statement in context it meant more than that. Thank you. Two years later. I have to do something. Lets show it again, what she said and let the viewers decide what she was trying to say. She went into detail, repeating herself, making it clear to a conservative targeted audience what she thought of federal law. Watch. You know we have talked about this at the state legislature before, nullification. Bottom line is, as a u. S. Senator, why should we be passing laws that the states are considering nullifying . I mean that is thats, bottom line, is our legislators at the federal level should not be passing those laws. And we are right. Thats right in that aspect is that we have gone 200plus years of federal legislators going against the tenth amendment and states rights. We are way overstepping bounds
as federal legislators. So, bottom line, no, we should not be passing laws as federal legislators, senators or congressmen that the states would even consider nullifying. Bottom line. What do you think she meant . That washington is too powerful and they think they can pass whatever they want and every state has to abide by it like it or not and the states should have more voice. Isnt that true . You are getting into the constitutional law. I understand that. What about common sense . Do you think a state like iowa can ignore federal law . I think they are very unhappy. She said nullify. Youre caught up in the word nullify. The average iowa family is caught up with her saying, you know, i dont have to put up with the word comes up for a reason, john. If you are talking to the typical iowa family, i dont know. Why even use that word . Around the iowa table and everywhere they are having the discussion. Maybe now. They are having a word about why is washington the way it is and why cant it have more common sense like iowa. Youre actually making more of a case that it was a code. Its a word she doesnt need unless shes trying to ring bells like states rights as well. There is something off in what she said. Im telling you as a Media Consultant i dont believe it was a planned code word. It was a phrase she used and now the democrat is trying to make something out of it. She doesnt know the history of the precivil fight war over slavery and how the states tried to fight it by saying they had the right to nullify. Anybody familiar with the heart ache of 600,000 men dead in a war remembers why we fought it. The states have a right to nullify laws passed by congress. To not know the word is to be shorthanded when it comes to talking about national affairs. You are right to give her a
pass on that. Youre right. Thank you, john walsh. I dont know if i would vote for someone who didnt know history. You have two deuces in your hand. Look what you have done with it. Coming up, funny or die. Coms impression of hardball and me canadian style. Thats next. Frankly like most people i know nothing about canada except one time i saw the leafs play the flyers. At the same time i dont think the canadians on television are good. Theyre a little bit too passive and quiet. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. She can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. My mom works at ge. My mom works at ge. Weits not justt wed be fabuilding jobs here,. Its helping our community. Siemens location here has just received a major order of wind turbines. It puts a huge smile on my face. Cause im like, this is what we do. the fact that iowa is leading the way in wind energy, im so proud, like, its just amazing. Say hi rudy. [ barks ] [ chuckles ] id do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. Thats why im so excited about these new milkbone brushing chews. Whoa, im not the only one. Its a brilliant new way to take care of his teeth. Clinically proven as effective as brushing. Ok, here you go. Have you ever seen a dog brush his own teeth . The twist and nub design cleans all the way down to the gum line, even reaching the back teeth. They taste like a treat, but they clean like a toothbrush. Nothing says you care like a milkbone brushing chew. [ barks ] welcome back to hardball. Time for the sideshow. Yesterday the comedy site funnyordie created a canadian spoof of my interview style calling it hardball canada. Youre watching hard duces tecum ball canada on msnbc canada. As we expand to the Canadian Market we begin to discuss all things canadian and get to the bottom of it. Frankly like most people i know nothing about canada except one time i saw the leafs play the flyers. At the same time i dont think the canadian news personalities on television are good. They are too passive and quiet. Well go to our panel to help us with what the canadian thing is about. Where do you come down on arcade fire . I wish they went back to the arcade and had no survivors. Im not sure i agree. Thats a good point. We are joined by kathleen turner. I didnt know you were canadian . Im william shatner. I am canadian. Youre tremendous, kathleen turner. Especially in her prime. She was beautiful. Tell me something, bill. 5 flight from logan to lax. Thats the best you could do at price line . I dont personally set the prices. Maybe ukt get scotty on it
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nixon tapes jst out today. A play by play account of the most shocking events of the presidency. At rice university, Douglas Brinkley. Lets get to it. In 1972 nixon and his staff debated whether to give ted Kennedy Secret Service protection during the election. He was a top nixon critic at a time. Nixon decided to go ahead and grant temporary secret Service Protection for two reasons. He said he didnt want to be responsible if there was an attempt on kennedys life and wanted his agents out there tailing kennedy. It was nixon at his most cut throat. You understand what the problem is if the son of a [ bleep ] gets shot. Theyll say we didnt furnish it. So you just buy his insurance. Then after the election, he doesnt get a [ bleep ] thing. If he gets shot, its too damn bad. All right. Do it on the basis though that the secret service do you have anybody in the secret service that you can get to yeah. Do you have anybody to plant. Yeah. Weve got receive. Plant one. Plant two guys on him. That could be useful. Is it really that bad . With nixon in moments like this you have to say, yes, it is that bad. He doesnt give a damn his word whether kennedy is shot or not. This is rough stuff. Its very rough stuff. He really had it out for ted kennedy. He wanted to get a secret Service Agent as his plant to feed him tactical information about what kennedy was doing. At one point of that excerpt president says dont get sky rolly, a legitimate guy. We have to get a stooge for us. He documents throughout the
tapes, goes after kennedys drinking, womanizing and all the rest. He wants to destroy kennedy. I remember he had a nonofficial agent chasing him off to hawaii and coming back emp tihanded which wasnt popular with nixon. In late 1972, here is something nice. Joe biden was elected senator from delaware when his wife and daughter were killed in aer car accident. It was a devastating loss for the 30yearold senator elect later sworn in at the bedside of his injured son in a delaware hospital. The day after that accident, nixon called to console biden. Lets listen to the phone conversation. Hello, mr. President , how are you . Senator, i know this is a very tragic day for you. I want you to know that all of us here at the white house are thinking about you and praying for you and also for your two children. I appreciate that very much. But the main point is you can remember that she was there when you won a great victory. You enjoyed it together. Im sure shell be watching you from now on. Good luck to you. Thank you very much, mr. President. Theres nixon at his strangest. He did it when he resigned, compared the loss of the presidency to the loss of a daughter. Saying the best moment joe biden and his wife shared was winning a senate seat. Something about the supremacy with which he views politics in life. It does show the more human side of nixon when you listen to that on the call to joe biden. Nixon constantly liked other politicians. As much as he wanted to destroy them. He was the ultimate hardball blood sport political pro. Won two huge elections, 68 and 72. He was willing to break the law. Willing to abuse power. Thats why hes such a disturbing figure. How he dealt with the middle east and the like. When it comes to most of the time he just goes after people with a tomahawk. Hes a bully. Here is one of his favorite fascinations, jfk. Here is what he had to say here about jack kennedy. His rivalry was through the 50s and 60s. Influenced nixon well after the assassination of kennedy. He discusses the publics favorable perception of kennedy which he called with some envy the kennedy mythology. Lets listen. Kennedy was cold, impersonal. He treated his staff like dogs, particularly his secretaries and the others. He was not a beat man. He didnt read, all these other things. His staff created the impression of warm, sweet and nice to people, reads lots of books, a
philosopher. That was a pure p creation of mythology. We have created no mythology. What do you make of that . I interviewed the kennedy staff and the women working. Some may have been involved with him intimately because of the reputation. I have to tell you they loved working at the white house. They loved him bopping around saying hello, a relaxed guy. Where did nixon get that kennedy was mean to the staff . I dont know the story. Jealousy. He was jealous of kennedys mystique. He goes further. Kennedy wrote profiles of courage. Nixon said, i want people to see im a man of guts. Kissinger said, well, you have confidence. Maybe we could market that. Nixon said, nobody wants competence. We want courage, guts. Kennedy got that out there, the camelot mystique is something he wanted. As you documented on kennedy and nixon they were friends for a
time but there was a jealousy nixon harbored. This is your pub day for the book. What do you think the average person who loves history, politics will find here . Youre like a fly on the wall in history. You are in the oval office. Nixon tried to bug everything. He bugged cam davis. We have piled up so many transcripts of this. We boiled it down to ones i thought were fair and judicious. Historically significant. Nixon at his best is dealing with china, with the abm, with salt, but the personal weirdness of nixon, its creepy. It is a fascinating window into the 1970s in american culture. I think there are only two president s in our lifetime who were deeply interesting people. Kennedy on the brighter side and nixon on the dark side. They are different faces of america. Authentically america, disturbing but us. Thank you. Good luck with your new book,
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public to live for a week on the wage of an average minimum worker who makes 7. 25 an hour. Most goes to rent and taxes which leaves you with 77 for everything from food to transportation and obvious expenses. One person who took up that challenge was tedstrickland. For a week i walked as much as i possibly could to avoid transportation, skipped meals to save money and i ate smaller and lesser meals. I turned to bread, peanut butter, bananas, and ba loathe na. Thats why i ate lunch from the mcdonalds dollar menu. Governor strickland is with me right now. You started on what day of the
week . I started on a sunday. And you started to try to live on about ten buck as day. Yeah, yeah, about ten bucks a day. The average wage worker as you said doesnt make a lot. 77 a week. You try to stretch that over a period of several days. Chris, it affects every decision you make throughout your life. Throughout the day youre constantly thinking can i do this. I was going to an appointment, i was a little late and i found myself trying to hail a cab and then i realized, wait a minute, i cant do that. I dont have money to spend on a cap, so i walked. It just perm yalts eer part of your life and it keeps you from living without constantly evaluating what you can and cannot do in terms of your resources. And you werent that healthy doing it either. No. I ate a lot of bologna. I like bologna. I ate a lot of cheap cheese. Thats one person who likes bologna. I ate bread and whats on the mcdonalds menu. You basically ate what my doctor told me not the eat. Exactly. Healthy food costs more. Thats why when i was growing up as a small kid they had food deserts. Absolutely. And in some communities the only place a person can get food is at a place that charge as whole lot because its a convenience store. Supermarkets arent available. So people find themselves living a kind of life and, chris, this is the point. Living a kind of lifestyle that i think many people up on capitol hill have never experienced and cannot even really imagine. If youre debating a conservative, maybe a liberal will be for minimum wage out of compassion, but a conservative will say we dont want to ichb ter view. But my argument i want to make in a few minutes after youre
gone, better to have these people working and on rating within the market, responding to better wages than it is waiting around for the check to arrive. Yes, but when a person works, they ought to be paid. And when a perch works full time, they ought not to where do you think it ought to be . They just did 15 bucks in seattle. It sounds like a lot of money, but it isnt. Its 600 a week. After you take out taxes and rent, we did the math here. You dont have much cash. No, you dont have much cash. The president is supporting a 10. 10 minimum wage. I can support that or 10. 15. San francisco is going to have it on the ballot to bring it up to 15. Not every community is alike and in some communities the cost of living is higher obviously. But 10. 10 for a person who works full time seems like a much fayer wage. The minimum wage has not been
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