Hell always be remembered for how he took the fight against Racial Injustice into his own hands, with a handshake. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Fear factor. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews up in new york. People only truly believe what they discover for themselves. They believe what they see, what becomes obvious to them. Right now, its obvious that ebola is not being kept from this country. Its here despite the promises we keep getting. How did that man get onto the plane . And why was he sent away from the hospital in dallas when he said he was here from west africa, where wree know theres an emdemmic of ebola. He walked in carrying some of the symptoms. Who and what are we to believe right now . The claim that there was a solid screening system in place at the airport in monrovia. That statement by president obama. Airport officials now say that the texas ebola patient lied about his exposure, so he could get into the u. S. What good is a screening system, if its so easily evaded . Health officials are trying to find up to 100 people who may have been exposed to the virus while he was contagious. The cdc and Texas Health Department are mobilizing war rooms in the dallas area. He walked into a dallas hospital with symptoms a week ago and was sent home. Even after he told them hed come from the ebola hot zone in west africa. For three days he roamed free in the dallas area. His nephew called the cdc himself as duncan got worse. What assurances do we have that others wont get in and that the right things will be done when they do . People dont like hearing these questions. I promise you, there will be a lot more if the assurances we keep getting dont match the realities were facing. Were joined now on the phone from monrovia, dr. Nancy snyderman, thank you for joining us. How did this guy get here when we were told by our president it would be unlikely that anybody would come here from the ebola area in west africa . I think doctors have been saying for quite some time that they expected a case of ebola to pop up in the United States. And thats because our world is smaller than ever. You can get anywhere within 12 hours on a plane. Interestingly, we know how this man was exposed. We tracked his path today in monrovia. He was exposed to the virus about four days before he left the country. Unfortunately, it can take eight to ten days for symptoms to show. Temperature, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. So when he left monrovia, liberia, his temperature was taken by the authorities, and it was normal, or he would not have been allowed to leave the country. So when he arrived in the United States, he probably still didnt have a fever. The real error was made when he first went to the texas emergency room with symptoms, high fever, and a history of coming from west africa, and he was inappropriately given antibiotics and sent home. A travel history is as important as any other part of the history in a physical today. And anyone coming through or from west africa, has to be asked the question, how do you
feel . Did he get a questionnaire in the liberian airport, was he asked whether he had been in an area where he could have been exposed to ebola . Sources there say he lied and said he wasnt anywhere near a victim he could have picked it up from. Well, this is a real loophole that weve been trying to track all day. We know that he was in contact with a pregnant woman who died of ebola before his departure. I can tell you that all over monrovia, there are bill boards, messages blasting from television and radio, everyone here is hyperalert and hyperaware about ebola. So, i dont know what this man knew. We do know that he came in contact with a young woman who died before his departure from this country. And its hard to imagine that he didnt know that he was in
proximity with someone that was ill. Because we tracked the taxi he was in, the exposure that he was exposed to, and several of the people he was exposed to have now died. Do we know that he came here to get treatment, that he knew he was exposed . Weve heard stories of family members raising money for him to get here. I honestly dont have a clue, chris. We do know he applied for a visa on september 2nd, and quit his job and saved up money i see, so he had planned to come here. That answers the question. He planned to come here before he was exposed. So that wasnt his motive, necessarily. Thank you, dr. Nancy snyderman. Any time, chris. This opens up a problem with trust and authority in this country. Right now its getting dicey. A democrat from california and Nurse Practitioner herself. And the Lieutenant Governor of maryland. Congresswoman, let me ask you about this thing here. The president , i dont know why he said it, that it was unlikely, two weeks ago that wed had an aids person an ebola person coming here from west africa. Who told him it was safe to say unlikely . Its not great to be knocked down in your claims by reality. Its not a good thing. I certainly dont know who told him. But what i do think he might have been trying to do was to just reassure the u. S. Population that we dont have to worry about a massive outbreak. Looking back at it, maybe he shouldnt have said that, but i do think that was probably the motivation. Because theres so much information that the u. S. Public needs to know and understand about this disease. Why would he warn us about something, though . Tell me the obvious. I dont know what it is. Why would we be afraid of people being afraid of ebola . Isnt that a smart thing, to be
afraid of ebola, the way its handled through the airport and our Transportation System . I think part of that is correct. But if i remember correctly, he responded that way after the two doctors came to the United States, the ones that were infected and we brought back here, and he was assuring people. But i do think that its important that people be aware. I also think its really important that people not be so paranoid to the point where, you know, people really dont understand whats going on. You know, we are dealing with our own epidemic here, the enterovirus, over 500 cases in 42 states. So we have additional concerns we need to be worried about. Also four deaths from that virus in young children. Im a huge opponent of rolling disclosure. I think its vital that politicians be the first, like in the godfather. My lawyer always insists on getting bad news fast. Thats right. He wants the bad news and im sure the congresswoman agrees. You want the staffer to race into the office and not sit on it for three days. Here we have a couple of situations. The jv team in iraq and syria thats becoming a global threat supposedly. So is isis a jv team, what is it . Im just wondering about this effort to try to down play concerns at the expense of being a truthteller. It is a problem. I would agree with that. It is a problem to the extent that the administration, particularly the president is getting advice from individuals who arent telling him the whole story, or laying out some of the ramifications. And all you have to do is look at the most recent episode with the secret service. You know, you have the director briefing the president , but fails to tell him, oh, by the way, you were in an elevator with someone who had a gun. Thats a relevant fact, i think. Its a relevant fact. And i think the congressman would really appreciate, please,
give us the relevant facts so that we, in turn, in answering calls from our constituents, what the relevant facts are. Heres an example of a guy. President obama is pushing the economy today, gave a mention to ebola in the context of american leadership. Lets take a listen. When alarms go off somewhere in the world, whether its a disaster that is natural or manmade, when theres an idea or invention that can make a difference, this is where things start. This who the world calls america. They dont call moscow, they dont call beijing. They call us. And we welcome that responsibility of leadership, because thats who we are. Thats what we expect of ourselves. And with that responsibility comes responsibility. Here i want to show you how you
do share information. Right after 9 11, there was an anthrax scare in new york. And giuliani shared information as he got it. This is just a short clip from one of his press conferences. There was a skin test, a biopsy that was done. That came back positive early this morning. Cdc notified us early this morning. So the test of the powder was negative to anthrax. The skin test was positive to anthrax. But since, if it is the powder, it goes back to september 25, and you dont have any additional numbers of people reporting symptoms. The chances that this is contained, according to the cdc and we just finished a long Conference Call with them, the chance this is contained are very good. Thats what i like, a very calm disposition of how things stand and how you know it. And telling the public everything you know as you know it. Thats better than saying be
calm, and dont worry, and its unlikely. That doesnt work. People are smart, watching the tv, going online. What did he say exactly . Okay, now i can work with that. I cant do something with general advice to be calm. But i can be calm when i see the mayor of my city going through the information as he gets it. Absolutely. I agree with both of you. I want to hear the bad news first too. Cut to the chase, let me know whats going on. But in addition to that, giving education, so, providing education to people about what this disease is, what the symptoms are, what you should look for, i think is very important as well. Michael, do you have any assurance we wont get a couple more guys jumping on the plane in monrovia . In two to 21 days incubation period. If the person is not sweating like mad or convulsing, they say hes clean. But it takes 21 days to show the symptoms. Its not working. I agree with that. I think its something that everybody should be concerned about, who are at those entry points and make sure there are the appropriate checks put in place. The other thing i think is important and the congresswoman touched on something that is important, the education. There are two parts to that. The first is that we the people are informed as to what this disease it, what the symptoms are, and we know how to deal with it. More importantly, as we saw with the hospital, that the information from cdc trickles down, so that in that emergency room, even if you have one of the list of symptoms, theres a sense of, we need to check this. But then when youre told, i just came from liberia or sierra leone, that raises it even further. So the education is important. Congresswoman, i just want to say thank you. I love the fact that youre a Nurse Practitioner. That means in addition to your legislative success, you have
executive ability, which is a great thing. I look so much up to nurses, especially Nurse Practitioners, who do the doctor work. Thank you so much. Thank you. And my friend michael steele. Coming up, the embarrassments get even worse for nfl commissioner Roger Goodell. Its not just ray rice. Documents today, 50 cases of Domestic Violence under goodell and found that players received lenient discipline in nearly all the situations. Plus, Darryl Hannah will join us, the master of political impressions. Hes making his return to saturday night live this season as its new announcer after the death of the great don pardo. And tonights round table, well talk about the fear of ebola, hillary 2015 versus bill 1991. And a new report that the secret service leaked president obamas schedule to the mitt romney crowd. And let me finish tonight with
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wife in the stomach. He finished out the season and then retired. Miami dolphins defensive end Phillip Merling was charged with felony battery on his pregnant girlfriend, continued playing the rest of the season. Rocky bernard, he was in a nightclub, where he punched the mother of his child with a closed fist, striking her forehead, causing her forehead to hit a glass divider. His punishment from the league, suspension for a game, one year. About 14 Domestic Violence cases ended up with players being suspended. In all but one case, it was two games or less. 15 cases players were released or didnt resign. Those cases involved players with marginal talent. So they were going to go anywhere. What does this say about nfl culture . Brent, thanks for joining us. When you did this report, i want to stick to the reporting, because i think its news to a lot of people. These cases involve real violence, not shoving, but fists and injuries, and would normally call in the courts, assault and battery. Yet, whether theyre considered felonies outside of the league, in the terms of the leagues own discipline, theyre a game suspension, or twogame suspension. What do you make of that . A lot of them are misdemeanor battery cases. You could certainly say the nfl has been lenient on this issue going back to 2000. Theres been 90 since the year 2000. Whats changed is the outrage over the release of the video there was never the public outrage until people saw what it looked like on camera. The league handling it with a one or twogame suspension. These cases are hard to prosecute in the court and by district attorneys. I think the nfl has tried to follow the lead of Law Enforcement authorities when they try to punish these players and its not always easy. How do you get the evidence of what happened, when you cant make the case . Will the spouse or the girlfriend not testify . Is that the problem . Yeah, thats generally the problem. In almost half the cases, the alleged victim doesnt want to cooperate with authorities. They dont want to jeopardize their family, their security. So why didnt the policeman who is following the case, because i know these cases are women being afraid of men, afraid theyll hit them again, or worse, kill them, so theyre not going to go to court. But i thought the Police Officer is supposed to intervene and bring the charge himself, or herself. They are supposed to, but it can be difficult when the victim
does not want to cooperate. When the evidence is he said, she said, its hard to prosecute. But sometimes there are physical injuries that the Police Officers make note of, of course. But usually, for firsttime offenders in a lot of states, this is how these cases get resolved. They enter a Diversion Program where the offender has to complete some kind of anger counselling, Domestic Violence counselling, community service. In exchange for that, the charge is dropped. Thats happened in quite a few nfl cases too. I think the league has looked at that as sort of, okay, the charge is getting dropped. Its a Diversion Program. Lets suspend him a game or two depending on the evidence. I want you to respond to this. There are more cases of Domestic Violence. Green bay packers line backer eric wald own was charged with felony battery against his girlfriend. The girlfriend later changed her story to say she started the fight. He was suspended for a game. And another one, he said police threw his wife down the stairs and out of the house. The nfl suspended him for a game. Cornell green, police say he slammed the mother of his children into a wall and hit her arm with a mop handle. He played in 12 games later that year. You see these guys meeting up with their spouses or girlfriends on the way out. Did you see this kind of violent attitude towards women . No. I do not see this sort of violent attitude towards women. This isnt just a problem in the nfl. This is corporate america. It is . I think its everywhere. Right now its just that the light is being shined on the nfl. The way the nfl works, they dont Pay Attention until there is public outcry. Theres a sense around the nfl, this has been going on for years. Its just now getting attention. These problems arent just happening in the National Football league. This isnt the only sport and place in america where wer