Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20141003

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews October 3, 2014 23:00:00

Involved, but my overriding theme from being a little boy preaching in brooklyn, to being a teenage activist, all the way to now, has been my fight for social justice. And those Little People that bleed in the same fight are the things im most proud of. Im getting older, learning how to do it better. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Have a great weekend. Hardball starts right now. Another beheading abroad and ebola quarantine at home. This is hardball. Knng, im Chris Matthews in washington. We begin tonight, this friday night with the latest horror from abroad. The Islamic State has committed another beheading. This fourth victim in a growing list is allen henning, a british aid worker. His wife had appealed for his release, and hoped for his safe return, especially after being joined in her appeal by dozens of Muslim Leaders in britain. This is going to drive the demand for this country to get even, if you will. This is humiliating, insulting, and a death of an innocent person. A cab driver who went to work for an aide program. This is their way of terrorizing us and the brits. This is the real fear, counterterrorism officials, the fear has been all along of a lone wolf, of an imitator, of what happened with the algierions, in australia, with the threat there that they broke up, that others will begin to imitate. Not that these folks in isis have a way to attack the homeland, not like al qaeda under bin laden. But they have the aspiration and others may try to imitate them. This is like a pendulum. Even if its just isis in syria, every two weeks, are we going to see a beheading . Most likely. They have other hostages. Homeland doesnt want to let on that we know as much as we do know. Is this to get us in, or to get us out . Its to get us in. Theres no question, its to get us in and to create more of the anger against america. You mean our anger at them . Our anger at them and also their anger at us. They have this crazy notion that were responsible for all of the ills of the world. Look at the past policies, they have certain things they can look at, but this is terror in its worst form. And air strikes are not going to stop this. We have to find them. Theyre blaming the air strikes for doing this. But they started this before the air strikes. Thanks, andrea. The other big story tonight, ebola is getting real and close at home. Dr. Nancy snyderman who spoke to us from west africa is now heading home for 21 days of quarantine for her and her fellow workers for nbc. One of whom has been diagnosed with ebola. Here in washington, d. C. , there is someone suffering the symptoms of ebola. The patient is under quarantine as well. In dallas, texas, we have a fullblown case of a person who came here from monrovia, liberia, and was turned away from the hospital with initial symptoms and only later admitted for treatment. Other news tonight, president bush ii says has brother wants to be president bush iii. Does the brother know best . And the jobless rate has dropped thanks to a quarter of a million new jobs. But does the middle class feel it yet . Meanwhile, Vice President joe biden calls his job a bitch. Well be getting into everything, also the emerging war between taxi drivers and uber. But first, ebola. The president s getting extremely serious, even as he attempts to calm the country as to the worst possibilities, or whether the disease can be kept from the shores. The president is sending up to 4,000 troops to west africa to take action in limiting ebolas spread. Late today, the administration said they were you scaling up its response to ebola at home and abroad. Every Ebola Outbreak over the past 40 years has been stopped. We know how to do this, and we will do it again. Abbey philips is covering ebola for tthe washington pos. Let me start with dr. Moreno. The 21 days of quarantine for dr. Nancy snyderman, who was on this program last night from liberia, is that enough . Everything points to the fact that that is enough, yes. I think we really understand with lots of experience, the natural course of the illness. I think 21 days is a confident number. If we had done that with the people on the planes, if they held them at the airport for three weeks, maybe thats impossible, but is that something we should think about down the road . Having the quarantine before the people get on the planes to the United States and monrovia and other infected places . Quarantines have a mixed record historically, in the history of medicine. You cant quarantine everybody whos going back and forth from that part of the world. Really what we need to do is get more disciplined about the way people are communicating with each other. We saw the problem in texas hospital between the doctors and the nurses, and thats really where we need to focus our efforts. Dr. Snyderman was talking about the situation affecting her now personally. Wed only spent two hours together. He and i were working in a work space when he told me he wasnt feeling well. He joined us 72 hours earlier as an independent journalist and had been in the country two weeks prior to that. So my suspicion is that he was infected before we met him and then he became symptom attic once we met him. We shared a work space, we shared being havehicles, we sha equipment. But everyone here is hyperalert. Weave not been in close proximity, no one shakes hands. So i do believe that our team while were being hypervigilant, we are at very, very lowrisk. Dr. Snyderman was on the program last night and spoke this morning, is going into 21 days of quarantine in the United States when she comes home, which is right away. By the way, in washington, d. C. , right here in the city im in right now, a patient is in isolation at Howard University hospital with a possible case of ebola. Heres what a spokesperson for that facility said today. Quote, we can confirm a patient has been admitted to Howard University hospital in stable condition following travel to nigeria and presenting with symptoms that could be associated with ebola. In an abundance of caution, we have activated the appropriate Infection Control protocols, including isolating the patient. Meanwhile, in atlanta, georgia, a man arrested for drunk driving is in isolation. Had a lowgrade fever and said he recently traveled to africa. Late today, officials said all test results have come back negative. Initial tests. And a third potential case not far from here, in shady grove, the hospital said a patient was being isolated and tested for ebola. Abbey in dallas, tell me, everything about this story now that you know about this patient who came here from liberia, had symptoms, they wouldnt let him in the hospital, they didnt think they were ebola symptoms. Then his nephew warned the hospital they got to take him. He got in. Yes, this is a patient with ebola. Whats his condition right now . The hospital says hes still in serious condition. Hes been there for about three days now. So i think thats not surprising considering how grave his condition was when he was admitted on sunday. At the moment, his associates, the family that he was staying with, are still being quarantined. And finally, a lot of the soiled sheets and mattresses and personal belongings that he left behind are being taken out of that apartment. They are going to be moved to another facility that is not infected. I think there is just a sense of fear in this community. I think the family is fearful for their own health and wellbeing. But on the other hand, all of these other cases in maryland, in washington, d. C. , even in atlanta, are a direct result of everyone not wanting to be this dallas hospital that turned someone away, who actually had symptoms of this virus. They want to be proactive and on top of it. Dr. Moreno, it seems to me if youre a person, even if you think you might have ebola because of the symptoms and the doctors say you dont have it, then you go out and you mix with all kinds of people, because you have the sense of, well, i guess relief, even though you still have the disease coming into you. Ultimately the experts have to get their act together. I think that is happening. You know, albert camu said there are plagues and wars, and were always surprised when theres a plague and a war. We have to be better prepared and i think well learn something from that episode. Do you think the president was right to say it would be unlikely for the disease to spread to the United States . I think anybody looking at this four or five weeks ago, who knows anything about the way these things tend to work, once there was this outbreak in major cities in west africa, you know, i think most people believed it was going to come here, and i think we havent heard about western europe yet. Im in london tonight. I think its likely there will be cases in europe as well. Thank you so much. Coming up, george w. Bush says his brother jeb wants to be president. Lindsey graham said he may jump into the race himself. And mitt romney says this about 2016. Well see what happens. Thats far from no. And the republican field for president , a big mystery. No frontrunner at all. Unemployment has dropped below 6 since before the financial disaster. But the middle class isnt feeling it. Its poorer now than it was 25 years ago according to the statistics. Well go to the round stable with that, ralph nader himself will be joining us, Jonathan Capehart and michelle bernard. Do you use uber . 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Ive never felt so alive. Get the future of phone and the phones are free. Comcast business. Built for business. Im a senior at the college, Vice President of the student body here. Isnt it a bitch . [ laughter ] excuse me. Being Vice President. I mean, whoa. Aint that a bitch . Nobody talks like the Vice President of the United States. Thats what he told a crowd of Harvard Students last week. But the veeps right. Every kid in america dreams of being the president , or many do, not the Vice President. Right now, there are a lot of more republicans eyeing the white house in 2016 than there are democrats because of Hillary Clinton. Democrats have their frontrunner by a mile. For the republicans, its a mystery to me. In the past, weve had maneuvering at the starting gate. W. Is out there yelling about his brother jeb wanting to run. Speaking for his brother. Mitt romney and playing hard to get. And Lindsey Graham saying hes thinking about run. Then the other side, Hillary Clinton no one knows how good a campaigner shell be. Tonight, a special correspondent with the daily beast and a republican strategist. John, your field, lets start with the center right potential executive, that sweet spot, i call it, somebody whos been a governor, with experience, who can compete with hillary in the middle. Who is that . Do you think christie will run . I think Chris Christie is certainly running. As you know, theres a lot of reports that mitt romney maybe is taking a look at it. You got to remember, the Republican Party is more complicated than this. Its really broken down into the social conservatives, the tea party, the libberitaryia elibbe. You have the hawks and the doves. Last time when romney ran, he could be the establishment candidate. This time jeb bush potentially there, and Chris Christie potentially there. Its a smaller box, and i think its more complicated. Why is it a smaller box . You mean its more crowded . Yeah, last time there was nobody else in there. So you got a crowded box. Is it now down to rand paul as the libertarian . I think so. I think fewer people will say, im the libertarian when we see whats going on in the war. Watching from the other side, what do you see . Id be surprised if romney gets in. Personally. But thats just a guess. Why is his brother out there advancing him . No, you were asking about bush. I was talking about romney. Romney wont get in until bush doesnt. Right. But as john just said, theres no single establishment candidate. Republican party going back to tom dewey. Everytime the Republican Party has nominated, except for one, the guy whose turn it was, theres no such person, no establishment person, no person whose turn it is. Thats why its topsyturvy and the hardest one to predict in my adult lifetime, i think. I think the International Condition aces out the argument you can make which is let it alone. And rand paul, im close to him politically on these issues, he just said leave it alone. Were staying out. I think youve seen articles of recent that, is the window closing for rand paul, because now he seems to be out of step, not only with his own party, but potentially with all of america. However, dont forget, ron paul set up some real votes in places like iowa and so forth, that rand paul is going to be able to step into and get some of those real votes. With the number of candidates there are this time, no ones going to win iowa with 35 of the vote. It will be 22 . I want to start a fight. No violence, though. There wont be any of that. I believe Hillary Clintons last name, and she did change it back in the 70s or whatever it was, is a good thing for her. Hillary rodham clinton. Clintons a good name. Do you agree . Yes. Is bush a good name for jeb . How does that sound . Do the American People want that, a third bush . And actually his mother said that. If you remember, she came out and said, i dont think america is ready for a third bush. And i think thats a problem. But theres one other important thing. The name bush is a problem . I dont think its a problem. You just said it was two seconds ago. You said it was a problem. I think the real problem for jeb bush is, the party has changed somewhat since his brother got elected in 2000. Somewhat . I think, some of the issues that hell be for, if you look at immigration and others, its not where the party is. Hes going to have to change positions or change what the party believes, thats impossible to do. And youre going to win votes this cycle on your tough immigration stand, i think, like New Hampshire. You got a chance in New Hampshire because of that. Hes got a problem on immigration and when your wifes mexican, its hard to have a different position. Some kind of compassion for people coming here. Im willing to say its last name is a problem. Probably not as enticing, but im willing to say it. We call him the standpoint candidate. Hes from big state, big important state, has some moderate tipositions, so he see like he could be more electable against Hillary Clinton. But if you look at polls, he doesnt run very well, not any better than christie i think when people hear the word bush i agree. Republican primary voters dont say, who is the most electable. Theyre not strategic like that. So im getting two answers. Is bush a problem or not . You did say it. Play it back. I think the bigger problem is where he stands on the issue system not consistent with republican primary voters across the board. If you look at the proof in the gop field being open, look how mitt romney has evolved his story when talking to the press. Back in january of this year, he was asked if hed consider running again. His response, was no, no, no, no no, no, no, im not running again. 12 no there. A cnn poll showing romney would win a rematch against president obama if the election were held today. Romney was asked about running again last month, and this time he said, well, well see what happens. Whats going on . I think theres two things going on. One is, i think he wants to be relevant. This isnt a slap against mitt romney, but if he says, im not running, nobodys calling him. Number two, id be shocked if he ends up running. I just know how difficult it is to do. To do it a third time is really tough. Reagan did it and won the third time. Its not the same as it used to be. Its gruelling, and much longer. And there are so many credible candidates. We talk about the establishment candidat

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