He took to instagram after the experience and wrote, you never know the impact you have on people. No, you dont. And with all the bad news in the world lately, its so great to see stories like this that make us all smile. Yes, weve got to deal with a lot of challenges, but dont forget to find something every now and then to smile about. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Too close for comfort. This is hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in washington. We have fresh video tonight of yesterdays terrorist attack on the Canadian Parliament. But first we take you to new york city for a report on what may be a new case of ebola here in the United States. Nbcs katy tur is outside
bellevue hospital. What can you tell us about this patient . I can tell you that new york city is treatin this very seriously right now. Theyve not confirmed that he has ebola, but theyre treating it as if he does because of where hes been and who hes been in contact with. They should know in the next six to 12 hours. Hes a 33yearold man, a doctor from columbia presbyterian, who just got back from treating ebola patients in west africa. His name is dr. Craig spencer. He got back ten days ago. Started feeling symptoms today, fever, fatigue. Also some body aches. He called the Health Department and told them he had a 103degree fever, they called 911, they sent a hazmat crew to take him to the hospital. Hes being tested and treated right now. The Health Department is going
to see everybody hes been in contact. They have quarantined his girlfriend. He was not selfquarantined up until now. Hes been back here for about ten days, but he doesnt start to feel the symptoms until earlier today, and thats when he started to selfquarantine. Last night he took a cab from harlem down to brooklyn to go to a bowling alley, and we are told he had some physical contact with his girlfriend this morning. Again, though, we dont know that he does have ebola. It could be malaria. It could be salmonella. Test results should come back later tonight or tomorrow morning. But since hes been in contact with ebola victims, this city is taking it very seriously. As they should, thanks so much katy tur in new york. Now to our big story tonight, i want to know who that guy was who attacked the Canadian Parliament yesterday. Theres a picture. What drove him to terrorism and what does it tell us about the threats coming our way . We have new video as i said, of
yesterdays attack. It shows the moments just after shooting the soldier at the war memorial. You can see him racing away as the terrorist runs there with his gun in his hands. Heading toward the Parliament Building himself. You can see him running to a parked car, which he then hijacks and drives toward the Parliament Building, there he is. He pulls up to the building, leaves the car, and run inside. All the while, being chased by police officers. He will Exchange Fire inside with officers guarding the entrance to the building. Were getting new information about the shooter himself. Who is this guy . His father is from libya. He was a convert to islam. He has a long criminal record, including assault, robbery, drugs, and weapons offenses. Hes been staying in a homeless shelter in ottawa. He had applied for a passport to travel to syria. Police revealed that his email
had been found on the shard drive of someone who had been charges himself with a terrorist offense. So here tonight, i want to learn if i can, what this act of violence so close to our border will do to the american nervous system, how it will affect, and heres an important part, voters as they head to the polls in about a week. Right now, were joined by the correspondent for Global National up in canada. Give us the police information, everything we need to know about who this guy was, what drove him, how he got to this point to make history in the worst kind of way. Hey, chris, yeah, i spent the day digging into what exactly Michael Bibeau was made of. We know he was 32 years old, born and raised here in canada. Hes a guy who kind of lived life on the margins. Hes lived in several shelters throughout the country. He hadnt talked to his parents in five years before last week, when he met his mother for lunch. Thats when we assume he told his mom he was planning to travel to syria. He came to ottawa, staying in a
homeless shelter here. He was here to apply for the passport. He had applied and he was in the period waiting to see if it would be accepted. We know he tried to rent a car. They asked him if he had a passport. He was very frustrated according to people in the room, when he did not have one. Police say the lack of a pos part was a motivating factor, though his entire motive is not really clear at this point. Ill play cop here. How did he have the money to even think he could afford a plane ride over to syria. He sounded like hes broke. Yeah, you know what, all indications are that he was to an extent. He took a bus from out west to ottawa, thats what im told. But he was able to get some money. And thats a big question. Was he in contact with people in some kind of network . The police saying he was associating with one other known radical. Were they supplying him with money . It really goes to that question,
is he a lone wolf, or is he operating under a bigger Umbrella Organization . What are we getting from his mother . She seems like a victim of this as much as anyone else. What do you have a sense that she knew about his intentions in going to syria . Was it clear to her that he was going to join up with isis . Thats a great question. Were not sure whether or not it was clear that he was going there to join isis or that she knew that. Earlier today, she released this statement and it was, im shocked, im mad at my son, i sympathize with the victims. It seemed like she had no idea. But then Police Revealed that she was the one who said he intended to go to syria. We went to her house. She works for the federal government. She wasnt around. We dont have the answers, but you can bet were going to be trying to get them. Thanks so much for that report from ottawa. Joining me now, evan kohlmann
and Thomas Sanderson from the center of strategic studies. Give me your sense, because i think this is something well have to live with for a while, the lone wolves, the people with elusive connections to a larger network. What do we know about him . Its important to make the point here that the connections between this individual that have been publicized so far between him and other jihadists, theyre not direct connections. It would be that someone happened to have him on their profile, they might have passed a message back and forth, it wasnt a meaningful message. As far as anyone can tell, so far from the public evidence, this guy was not tied in with anybody. No group, no other individuals. Just not any evidence so far of that. Whether or not this individual was recruited by isis, it doesnt appear so. Doesnt even appear whether or not they were aware this was going to happen. So what kind of a person are we looking at . Were looking at a lone wolf. But are we looking at someone who is capable, who was a
meaningful threat beyond this incident . Or are we looking at the guy down in Oklahoma City who beheaded his coworker because he was inspired on what he saw on television from isis . Two questions, how did he afford a trip to syria if hes on the lam, lying around in homeless shelters without any money. I know he had a bus ticket, but where do you get the money to go to syria and apply for a passport . That takes cash. And secondly, what about his name appearing on that hard drive, someone else involved with terrorism . How did that happen if hes a lone wolf . We can only speculate we know his name showed up on the hard drive. How did that happen . His name didnt show up on the hard drive. These guys had shared profiles. They were following each other, basically. They might have made a comment like, thats great and the other person said, thats great too. But the conversations werent meaningful. They werent about a conspiracy or at least as far as we know so far, they werent about some
kind of organized conspiracy. They were more like two extremists who happened to have a vague recollection or acknowledgement of each other on the internet. But it doesnt appear to be something that meaningful. As for the other questions, look, as where he would have gotten the money to travel, thats where we can only speculate. Number one, he did meet with his mother. Perhaps he was asking his mother for money, we dont really know. Other jihadists who have been in canada before, penniless, have been able to raise money to travel to as far as away as afghanistan. So this individual, even penniless, might have been able to find the money for a ticket. There are people in canada and here in the United States that would be willing to fund such a trip if they knew what it was for. The question is, did he ever come into contact with anyone, or was this really an act of desperation . Did he not think he was going to get his passport . Did he not think he was going to make it to syria and that is what he decided to do instead . We dont know. We dont know if its a case of Mental Illness. But he wanted to go to syria, his case fits in with a number of other cases weve seen recently. And whether its Mental Illness or a jihadi inclination, whatever it is, there definitely appears to be some connection here to whats going on in the lefant with isis. Let me go to thomas here. It seems to me, one thing we do know, this man decided to basically commit suicide. This kind of act, shooting a soldier at the war memorial in plain daylight and then hijacking a car and racing into the Parliament Building with a gun, youre going to get shot. Yeah, theres only one result thats going to come of that. Look at his life, he appears to be on the margins and now he has a mission, right . And that mission may be in furtherance of isis goals or in his own belief what it means to defend the worldwide Muslim Community if hes trolling around the internet, contacting this other
person involved with terrorism to some extent, and he must be aware like a couple years ago, where somebody said im going to behead the canadian Prime Minister in the Parliament Building. How much of this chatter, as they call it, mixing with each other and creates this ignition to leads this guy to take this step yesterday . After what happened monday in montreal. Yeah, with the soldiers who were run over. Exactly. One of them died. Theres plenty of chatter, plenty of material that these guys can grasp a hold of. Very easy for an individual, from what we know about this gentleman, could have jumped to this point where he was. Is chris available right now . I want to take a couple minutes, talk about what seems to be the strong emotional and patriotic feeling coming out of canada today. Much like it did out of our country, the u. S. , after 9 11. Um, well, thank you, chris. And you know, chris, its not polite to praise yourself, so im going to start with a blog on new York Magazine, the new York Magazine website that talked about the mature and dignified reaction in canada. And i have to say, i really feel thats been the case, and im really proud of my country. I was in Parliament Today at 10 00. We were all in our seats. And that was in a place where the day before we were huddling in our offices. The real mood of the country is to say, we are going to keep calm and carry on. We are going to mourn and remember the brave young reservist, corporal cirillo, who was shot and leaves behind a 6yearold son. Were incredibly proud of our sergeantatarms, the 58yearold guy who brings in the mace every morning to begin our sessions in parliament. When he heard the shots, he was
at his desk, opened his drawer, took out a gun, and he shot the shooter. So we are really determined to be responsible, to be mature, but not to let this change us. Well, as you mentioned, the spotlight is also focused on the sergeantatarms, kevin vickers, who is being called a hero in your country. By the way, congratulations on your elections in the parliament. And when the shooting started, he ran to his office is retrieved his gun. Heres the video, him pacing the halls after the shooting, gun in hand. Today dressed in his ceremonial attire, he was greeted by a threeminute standing ovation by members of parliament as he entered the chamber. The Prime Minister also drew more cheers by shaking the sergeantatarms hand. He gave hugs and said the country stands united. Lets listen. When faced with attacks on the country we all love, and the
things we all stand for, i know we will always stand together. It is hard to appreciate, understand, fathom, how we can have people who so despise and are involved in a movement who want violence. We will be vigilant, but we will not run scared. We will be prudent, but we will not panic. And as for the business of government, here we are in our seats in our chamber in the heart of our democracy. [ cheers and applause ] i dont know if its an accident, photography, or camera angle, but there behind him was a gentleman with a turban and a long full beard. I know canada is a country of British Commonwealth diversity, people coming from all over the
world. Is that something, when you say, keep calm, do you mean unlike the u. S. . Im not trying to be controversial. But what do you mean about your reaction compared to the reaction of americans in the u. S. . I wasnt saying anything bad about american, chris. We love our american friends and allies, but we are determined to be calm, to be mature, not to overreact. There was a gentleman in a turban, and an interesting fact about kevin vickers, the sergeantatarms, is, he made a decision a few years ago, that sikhs who come into the house of commons can carry their ceremonial knives. Hes been as the sergeantatarms an accused defender of our house of parliament. Hes called the house of commons because commoners should be allowed to enter. I think its great this guy who is a defender of openness is
ready to take action when necessary. Congratulations for being a member of the parliament and so proudly speaking of your country. And thank you, evan coleman and Thomas Sanderson. Coming up, 12 days before the midterm elections in this countr country, things are getting hot. Joni ernst, she said shes going to use her gun to protect herself if she believes this government isnt respecting her rights. This is Second Amendment talk out of the prayer book. Is she talking about shooting politicians she doesnt agree with . Apparently so. And Rudy Guiliani settles an old score, a personal one down in florida. These races are so close. Who knows whats going to tip the scale . This is hardball, a place for politics. Were talking about Second Amendment remedies. If they dont scare you, what will . Joni ernst on tape talking about shooting people in the government if she doesnt like
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the way to the top, i guess, who challenge her perception of her rights. This is radical talk about her Second Amendment rights. If anybody out there thinks theres some