Tribeca probably very limited. John will be back tomorrow. We thank campbell for joining us. We thank these pesky birds for joining us. Well see you tomorrow. Thanks for watching. Sayonara. Sayonara. Coming up, hardball with Chris Matthews. Broadway or bust. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. Hillary clinton versus Bernie Sanders, were eight days away from new yorks big primary. A slew of big polls out today show Hillary Clinton with a doubledigit lead out there. Giving clinton a 14point lead up there in new york. A new fox news poll has clinton over sanders by 16 points. Look at those numbers. Anyway, last week senator sanders backed away from his attack on clintons
qualifications for the presidency. But over the weekend he went after her judgment. Lets watch that. If you look at where she is getting her money from wall street special interests, she voted for the war, she cited Henry Kissinger in a sense as a model for her, i think those issues will tell the American People that in many respects she may have the experience to be president of the United States, no one can argue that, but in terms of a judgment, something is clearly lacking. I have my doubts what kind of president she would make. But you would support her if need be . By the way, in terms of experience, no question she has the experience. Well, meanwhile today, secretary clinton questioned sanders preparation on the issues. I have noticed that under the bright spotlight and scrutiny here in new york, senator sanders has had trouble
answering questions. Hes had trouble answering questions about his core issues, mainly, dealing with the banks. Hes had trouble answering Foreign Policy questions. I have the best policy toward dealing with what needs to happen to prevent wall street from ever wrecking main street again. Every progressive economist from paul krugman, to professors at universities, barney frank, theyve all said i have the plan that will actually work. Senator sanders couldnt even answer questions about whatever his plan is. Covering the sanders campaign, and kristen covers the Clinton Campaign. Has sanders backed away from his unqualified charge against her . Its pretty clear, chris, he has, yeah. He made it exactly twice. Once at a rally in philadelphia late last week. Again, the following morning at a press conference. And after that, in interviews on nbc, morning joe, the today show, he backed away from that. Its clear having talked with some of the sanders advisers that that was ultimately an indefensible critique. At least in the long term. Its just a very difficult argument to be out there making over and over and over again. And instead, hes gone back to this critique of her judgment, which by the way, it something hes been saying for several months over the course of whether its the iraq war or other policy judgments, Henry Kissinger, other areas. So i think what youre really seeing right now is senator sanders in a crucible that hes never experienced before. And we talk a lot about how president ial candidates who run for the second time have a much better sense of how it goes, because it really is unlike anything theyve ever experienced before. And i talked to jane sanders, his wife, she says this, you know, this is harder than we ever thought that it was going to be. And i think he really is experiencing that going into this New York Primary. And they know that its going to be tough going for him. And that he does need to hit
back. But its clear that they went a little bit too far and felt like they needed to walk that back. Kasie hunt is following the sanders campaign. Thank you, kasie. Kristen, is hillary ready . I get the feeling Bernie Sanders, he had a lagging period there for a couple of weeks. Now hes back to actually try to win this. Which means hes got to beat Hillary Clinton. It looks like hes out there to beat her. Not just give her a good protest fight, but knock her off completely so he can be the nominee. I think youre absolutely right hes going for it. Thats why you saw him sharpen the attacks. Were seeing very heated rhetoric right now on both sides. But i can tell you the Clinton Campaign is feeling good about their chances here in new york, in part because of all of those polls that you just laid out. And of course, this is a state that she won back in 2008. And she served as senator here for two terms. At the same time they dont think they can let up. And that means campaigning aggressively throughout the five boroughs, courting africanamericans and latinos, and also focusing on upstate new york. A lot of delegates to be had there. The voters there today said they like what Bernie Sanders has to say. We cant stress the importance of new york enough from the perspective of the Clinton Campaign, because if she wins this state, chris, particularly if she wins by double digits, she would almost put this race out of reach for him. It would almost be game over. So this is really a critical win for her. Now, at the same time, youre seeing her keep her eye on the general election as well. She just released that new ad today hitting donald trump, the campaign telling me, look, that serves two purposes. It allows her to go after the gop frontrunner, and also to make the case to the democratic pri mare voters she would be the strongest candidate in the general election. I think thats what shes up to. Thank you, kristen welker. Sanders Campaign Manager had
these strong words for Hillary Clinton last week. Lets watch. I think if you look at her record, look at her campaign, her campaign is funded by millions and millions of dollars from wall street and other special interests. Shes really made a deal with the devil. We know the devil wants his money in the end. So thats the kind of campaign shes running. She supported the terrible trade deals which have devastated American Manufacturing in this country. She sup poshtd the war in iraq. She continues to have a very hawkish Foreign Policy. Which has led to the rise and expansion of isis throughout the middle east. Today fred weaver said clinton was experienced on paper. Lets watch that. Well, look, shes clearly experienced, right . An intelligent person, experienced person. But resume is not enough at the end of the day. You can look at someones resume and they can be great. But in the interview which is what the whole election process is, you learn more than whats on the piece of paper. On paper, of course, shes
experienced. Jeff weaver joins us right now. I missed your name there, im sorry. Youre a powerful speaker. No problem. You deal in almost like myth cal language. You talk about Hillary Clinton several her soul to the devil basically. Do you mean that . Selling her soul to the devil . She has chosen to take money from virtually every special interest in the country. Wall street, the financial industry, the pharmaceutical industry, greenpeace documented between her and her superpac 4. 5 million from fossil fuel related industries, the gun lobbyists that provided her money. On all of these things, she has chosen to fund her campaign in that way. What we know, chris, by the fact that Bernie Sanders does it differently is you dont have to fund your campaign that way. He funds his campaign with small contributions from people all over the country. Thats good. I think everybody thinks thats admirable. Youre the only one out there saying she sold her soul to the devil. I said she made a deal with the devil. Whats the difference . Theres only one deal with the devil, my friend. We all know the story. You cant get your soul back. Can hillary ever get her soul back . The deal you made with the devil, you said it. If she made a deal with the devil, she wont be able to undo that deal. Theyll come knocking the day after the election if shes elected president. No doubt about that. How many devils are there . Quite a few of them. Wall street, the pharmaceutical industry, the fossil fuel industry, and on and on it goes. Your claim is Hillary Clinton sold her soul to the devil . No, i didnt look, shes taking a lot of money from people, who will come knocking on the door the devil. The devil. Thats the way it works, chris. Chris, you worked in washington, d. C. You know how it works. I think its a pretty condemn na tory comment. Hillary clintons had experience on paper. What do you mean . Well, look, shes secretary of state, she was a senator, she was first lady of the United States, and of arkansas. She has an incredibly impressive resume, no doubt about it. But when you go beyond it, and you look at her support of things like the iraq war, her support for disastrous trade deals, her support for doma, her efforts during the 2008 race to keep the governor of new york from giving drivers licenses to undocumented workers, looking at these things over and over again, theres more there than just the resume. You know my erogenous zone, youre hitting it. The problem is this thats inflammatory. Dont be sarcastic. You overstate your case. First of all, your candidate, who youve been working for for so many years, saying im not questioning her qualifications. It sounds like you are. No, its about judgment. She has a vast amount of experience. Shes clearly you said she only has experience on paper. Thats questioning somebodys
resume. Youre saying the resume doesnt get backed up by experience, real experience. No, the resume doesnt get backed up by judgment. Thats the problem. Okay. Thank you, jeff weaver. Thanks for coming on. Happy to be here. You have a strong voice for senator sanders. Im joined by another strong voice, mayor bill de blasio who has clearly endorsed by the way, whoever writes your jokes up there, get a new joke writer. All that stuff was a disaster. It was a disaster. Anyway, let me ask you about Hillary Clinton. This is a very tough fight. Bernie sanders sounds like hes not just a protest candidate anymore, he intends to win new york. He is throwing the sink at her. Hes going after her on basic things, like dealing with the devil, selling his soul. These stories about Hillary Clinton because shes taking money from the wrong people, theyre getting pretty whats the right word met a physical about this. Shes basically dealing with evil. Did you expect them to get this tough . Look, i think the bottom line is some of the charges dont
hold water. I spoke to this previously. Heres someone who led the charge for the United States to bring the Global Community together to end climate change. What the president and Hillary Clinton did in terms of china and in terms of the march to the paris accord, biggest thing weve seen in years in terms of addressing climate change. On top of that, her Campaign Platform calls for taking away tax breaks from fossil fuel companies. Equally, her wall street platform is in many ways tougher than Bernie Sanders, and would rein in wall street and deal with the issues were facing right now. So i dont know quite what jeff is trying to get at there. When you look at what someone stands for and what they say theyre going to do hes saying shes in the tank. They say that over and over again, shes in the tank because of the Goldman Sachs speeches, the 200,000 speeches. They keep getting her as someone who cant be trusted because shes in bed with these guys. Thats what theyre saying. Chris, it doesnt hold water. Look at what shes saying she will do for the country. Look what she stands for. Look at her history. She stood up to the Health Insurance companies during the Health Care Reform debate of the 9394. We know how dramatic that was. She stood her ground. Went to beijing and stood up to the chinese on womens rights. She has a long history of being a fighter and being tough. Look at what she stands for. The sanders camp with all due respect to them, they dont look at the platform. Her platform would bring change on a host of issues. Shes doing very well in new york. Because she has a message and ideas that fit the people of new york. They also believe she can actually get something done on these issues. You know the charge against politicians who take money from wall street or anywhere else, big interests, its not that youre in the tank exactly. But they know youre not going to be really that aggressive. When it comes time to be, in sins of omission, theyre not
that tough on legislation to restrict these industries, because youve gotten money from them. You know the problem for them. Would it be better off if she hadnt taken the 600,000 in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs . Would she be more credible if she hadnt . Thats the argument they make. Look, weve used the analogy before in these discussions with president obama who a lot of people on wall street thought they were trying to achieve a certain relationship with him, will look to his great credit. He went in and did what was right for the people. He moved forward on dodd frank. He did what he believed was right. People can support a candidate, but the candidate has to ultimately decide whats right for the peeople. Hillary clinton knows how to stand up to powerful interests. In addition to jeff conceding her qualifications and her capacity on paper. I dont know anyone who doubts her toughness. That has a lot of ramifications for the general election as well. Heres your chance to advertise the good part of the
hawkishness. She said the other day that he shouldnt have that the Israeli Government is disproportionate. Do you agree with that . She basically comes off in that debate as more progovernment of israel. Certainly more pro the government of israel. Im one of the people and i think many people in this country have real differences with Prime Minister netanyahu. I think hes been unfair to president obama. I dont think its a question of the current Prime Minister of israel, we have to protect the state of israel going forward. And as americas tried to do for years, we have to get a twostate solution. I think we can say netanyahu has alienated a lot of people in this country. Since the time i was born, you were born, we were born, new yorkers love it when people come to new york and eat their food. Youve got to go to juniors, youve got to have a cheesecake, youve got to go to nathans for a hot dog, youve got to go to
coney island, eat stuff youve never eaten in your life, and youve got to eat it with the relish. Why do new yorkers insist on that ritual . I think we want to see people really get our culture. The pastrami sandwich at the Carnegie Deli is another one. Youve got to ride the subway. Thats also part of it. And actually connect with the people of new york city. We enjoy that. Ill bring my tokens. Just kidding. Anyway, thank you, bill de blasio, mayor of new york. Coming up, gestapo tactics, thats what trumps new Convention Manager is accusing the Cruz Campaign of. The Cruz Campaign said those comments are an attempt to distract voters from trumps failures. Looking at this nomination ballot, can you either lock in heat, trump locked it up before the convention, thats still the
big question for him in new york next week. Carole king is going to sit among our round table. The legendary singer songwriter, more than 100 single hits. Plus, just eight days afrom the primary, the round table will tell me something, i cant wait for hers about politics in 2016. And this president ial election. Finally let me finish time with about the big noise from the big apple this week. Why are you all here . To learn, right . So you can get a good job and youre not working for peanuts. Well what if i told you that peanuts can work for you . While you guys are busy napping, peanuts are delivering 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients right to your mouth. You ever see a peanut take a day off . No. Peanuts dont even get casual khaki fridays. Because peanuts take their job seriously. So unless you want a life of skimming wifi off the neighbors, youll harness the hardworking power of the peanut. cheering take on the unexpected. The new 2016 nissan altima. Built to stand out. Weve been covering the big battle for broadway next week. The democrats fight against the big New York Primary next tuesday. And were on the case with the tank on Hillary Clinton, and her adopted home state. God, i love being back in the fat apple. My home state. Except for illinois and arkansas. But they already voted for me, so were cool. And gosh, new york has been cold this week, hasnt it . In fact, my head is getting a little chilly. I better put on my favorite hat that ive worn so many times over the years. Here we go. That will keep me warm while i eat my favorite dinner, a classic new york city street hot dog. And for dessert, all you new yorkers know that i am just nuts for nuts. And later tonight im going to take in that hot new broadway show thats got all of nyc abuzz. Chicago by the way, did you see the
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