Until tomorrow, not until tomorrow, were not here until monday. Until monday. Hardball with Chris Matthews is next. Bullies pope it. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews. In washington the 2016 president ial election is chshapg up to be the most contentious in decades. Protesters crashed through a barricade reaching the doors of the Convention Hall where trump was said to speak before the California Republican convention. Todays demonstration followed clashes outside a trump rally last night where hundreds of
protesters took to the streets blocking traffic, smashing car windows. 20 people were arrested by police last night. Its more evidence of the deep political divisions of the 2016 race. Divisions fueled by candidate who is willing to go where no one has gone before. In talk about getting tough with radical islamist terrorists, he repeated about american john persing at the turn of the 20th century in the aftermath of the spanishamerican war. Here is how huh put doe put dowd military. He was a tough general. He wouldnt do well today because he was too tough. They caught 50 radical islamic terrorists. They caught them. They took the 50. They lined them up. They took a pig and then they took a second pig and they cut
the pig open and they took the bullets from the rifles and they dumped the bullets into the pigs and they swished it around and took the bullets and shot 49 of the 50 people. The 50th person, they said take this bullet and bring it back to all of the people causing the problem and tell them what happened tonight. He took the bullet. He brought it back, that 50th person, and for 42 years, they didnt have a problem with radical islamic terrorism, folks. The website rated trumps version of that story false. False. When he first told it back in february but it again shows that while most candidates tread softly, donald trump marches in
combat boots. Trump is now trying to deny Hillary Clinton any credit for becoming this countrys first woman president. Trump, who on tuesday night, said clinton has achieved her victories because of her gender alone attacked the form secretary of state for playing the woman card last night. Heres trump on fok. Its fact. Shes playing the woman card. Its the only thing hes got going. Shes playing it as much as she can. Ive been watching it. Every tame you raise your voice its like look what hes saying and look at the way he talks. Give me break. She raises her voice much more than i raise mine. Believe he. Donald trump last night called secretary clinton an enabler of her husbands infidelity and tweeting crooked Hillary Clinton. Perhaps the most dishonest person to have ever run for the presidency is one of the all time greats. Enabler enablers. John, what do you make of this. I think trump has a notion of what hes doing. What do you think it is . He does but here is where i think the fall has come. You have to win the states. Hes doing well at that. The problem is he has to start expanding the base if hes going to beat hillary. I want to get on board. Every time this happens all the press goes to them and say do you agree with this. Theyve got to distance themselves. It doesnt help them politically but you got to give them credit. I dont think he sits there and says this s this the politically correct thing to do. Hesitate targeting Hillary Clinton now and doing all the things that most democrats are careful not to do. You have an alcoholic spouse and let them keep drinking hes making that charge openly against hillary without any real evidence. Hes just doing it. Right. Its an interesting question. Are voters going to blame Hillary Clinton for her husbands transgressions. For being cheated on . Exactly. Does that make her unqualified to be president. Trump has a couple different strategies with this. He wants to rattle Hillary Clinton and he wants to remind kind of some of that ugly chapters of the Clinton Administration and remind folks that when bill clinton was president it was complicated. Theyre teasing more material. They got more dirt. Lets watch. If they want to go after
dom donald trump then he will bring up that topic. Its a lot to discuss that was not brought out into the public. Im not sure what shes talking about. Its diversion. Its stirring up these unfounded allegations. Whats happening here is hes trying to close the deal. He needs to win in indiana. It gets him to victory because look where he was. Hes in indiana. Bullets dripped in pigs blood. He knows the media will raise a fire storm. Like he says americas first. I think he knows enough of history to know what that means. It means he was an appeaser. Youre right when you say he knows what hes doing. That trump stumbles into gaffes. Knees the buttons hes pressing. He said beating Hillary Clinton would be easier than beating opponents in the primary. When i can focus on hillary, crooked hillary, shell go down easier than any of the people we just beat. We got little marco, lying ted and crooked hillary. He doesnt even have to point to case of her being crooked. He just says it. He just dictates the connection. You can free associate that with i guess with emails. I wouldnt call that crooked. Misjudgment or something. I wouldnt call it crooked. Hes going back to white water. What is he talking about . That is nothing. Wheres the crooked part . She took the speech money. Does that make her crooked . The beauty is just start saying it. Just start saying it. I noticed that peggy noonan said shes a criminal. You just said it. You repeated it. I recited it. This is the whole paradox of donald trump. Everything he does i says that makes no sense and he went up in the polls. He won every county in my state. Theres a lot of closet trump voters. I agree with that. Number two explain why there would be so many wouldnt tell a well spoken, perfect english caller would you be for donald trump. Theres people that are with him that wont say it. Its the classic example would your friends do this. Would your neighbors do this. I think theres a lot more supporters. Somebody said to me once, great analogy, the trump voter is like the guy who gets drunk on a friday and swears hes going to go in on a monday and tell off his boss and doesnt do it. I think a will the of those guys are telling off the boss now. Let me ask the only woman here. Let me ask you about the woman thing. Theres old marcus of queensbury rule. Dont go confront, go into somebodys space especially if theyre a woman. Trump seems to break every rule. He walks into the china shop and smashes it up. Right. So far thats worked for him. I always say i hate conflation. The right wing is good at conflating. Saying that Hillary Clinton is running on her card. First of all, she didnt get to be a graduate of yale law for being a woman. She didnt go to wells well, thats a womans school. Back in 91 they were running as political equals. The idea that she became prominent because shes a woman, thats not true. Lately she has been saying
pushing the woman thing. This is chance is one shot unfair in the way its being tugged. Hes saying she wouldnt be here if she wasnt a woman. I think its worth remembering when Bernie Sanders suggested that Hillary Clinton was unqualified, that didnt go well. People pushed back abdomen said shes clearly qualified. Sg if you look at her resume from a gerund neutral perspective, shes qualified. You can question whether shes done a good job or has the best ideas. She has necessary experience to run for this. I think her star quality owed something to bill. Bill was a movie star politically. The strategy seems so
shortsighted. Good look winning the election. Its not clear that the republican given the demographics, the republican nominee would win in 2016. Mitt romney lost by five million votes and still won white women. Sgr can bei s sgr. Can being a bully work . People doesnt understand the success of donald trump is not donald trump. Its his supporters. I think the reason thats so important is he gets to play by different rules. Theyre saying he has a big megaphone and its got to be better than what we have today. Youre not going to tell me how to vote. Thats important. We laugh at that because we think its a bafoonery. This is knew. There are no experts. Thank you. Great to have you back. Coming up, there are poll numbers and projections that make democrats optimistic about the general election match up with donald trump as we have been hearing here. They show Hillary Clinton with real shot to win picking upstate democrats didnt win in 12. For his part trump is hoping to put bl states in play. Whos got the edge heading into the general election. You cant tell the winning candidate from the loser. Thats because the losers dont make concession speeches anymore. They make victory speeches when they get beat. Answer the question, why do the losers sound like they are winning. I owe this question. We have actors Neve Campbell and Michael Kelly of house of cards. All three will play hardball. Coming up on tuesday, msnbc will have live coverage of the inn en primary. Ill join Brian Williams and Rachel Maddow for results. Get ready for this. Stay up late. Have a coffee. Join me for a special edition of hardball. This is hardball, the place for politics. Use i need to keep organized. School, grocery shopping. My face can unlock this computer. Thats crazy. Macbooks are not able to do that. Hey cortana, remind me we have a play date tomorrow at noon i need that in my world. Anything that makes my life easier, im using. And windows is doing that. Customer service d. Maam. This isnt a computer. Wait. Youre real . With discover card, you can talk to a real person in the u. S. , like me, anytime. Wow. This is a recording. Really . No, im kidding. 100 u. S. Based customer service. Here to help, not to sell. Vice President Joe Biden traveled today to the vatican
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191. Secretary clinton would win the states president obama won in 2012 plus the state of north carolina. A poll out of red state of arizona also shows clinton with a sevenpoint lead over trump. Usa todays heidi broke the news that clinton plans to start shifting her staff. The shes hoping for a big victory that looks beyond the open 2012 map. Im joined by the aformation heidi and governor dean of vermont. Tths g its getting close. How good can we project six months of donald trump smashingHillary Clinton personally. Really vicious campaigning. As you know, we cant say what it will look like in four or five months but we can say what it looks like right now. We have the polling data and unless something really seismic happen, what you do and what is fair to do is take that 08 map and overlay it and assume given the forces that we know are in effect like trumps effect on suburban women who may come over and vote for hillary hispanics. The black turn out. I know exactly what youre thinking about is the real october surprise will be president obama campaigning like hes never campaigned before for Hillary Clinton. I think trump is looking at him to shake up the map. Hillary clinton has north carolina, arizona. Shes got colorado. She could build a bigger map. Your thoughts. This is really complicated stuff. I think heidi is right. I think there will be a much bigg bigger africanamerican turn out for a lot of reasons. Theres a lot of people who respond negatively to bullying. They are minority groups because they have been bullied plenty and were not just talking about africanamericans. Were talking about hispanics and Asian American who is used to vote republican but dont anymore. Theres never been a president elected on the republican side with less than 35 of the hispanic vote. Trump is at 19. I think the closer this get, as long as hillary stands up and is little Margaret Thatcher like, i think shell do just fine and we
could have a land slide. What do you see as a debate. Trump is not stupid enough and call her an enabler to her face. Ill bet you he does. He wont be able to stop himself. What does she do . Give me example of her defense. There you go mr. Trump. You go there you go, mr. Trump. I believe in x, y, z and Foreign Policy and whatever she wants to talk about. Mr. Trump, you put several companies into bankruptcy. Were not going to let you do that to the United States of america. Thats an aggressive shot. Its not defensive. Lets talk about different kinds. Women in different situations. Independent women. Single women are sensitive when some bully kocomes around and s you cant have abortion rights. Married women are more conservative, traditional. Once he gets tough, where do they stand . Ive talked to married republican women who will not vote for donald trump. Theyre on the record saying that. I guess you have to make the assumption since they make up laer portion of the electorate than men do, they will change their minds. You look at the polling that shows they dont just have a unfavorable opinion of donald trump. You know they have a very unfavorable view of him which is a whole new level of persuasion it would take to persuade them to vote for him. I think its very high bar to move those female numbers. Im in the a woman but i try
to observe how people behave. People dont mind being used, they mind being discarded. Thats about life too and relationships. No one likes to be dumped. The idea is not that he makes fun, not just makes fun, he seems to dismiss them. He talks about women in terms of looks only. Like im not interested in their minds, thoughts, souls. I want to see them on a runway. They have attacked women on their looks. I wonder whether that is stupid, politically. Just a thought. I think it is pretty stupid. Theres two things that are interesting. This isnt over yet. Cruz has mike pences endorsement in indiana. Bobby knight is a much better endorsement. For the guy, i think so. Right. Youll get a kick out of this. The collared counties of philadelphia, thats where all these elections are won and lost. I knew obama was going to beat the daylights of mccain in the collared counties of pennsylvania. Those are the classic republican married women who are mostly prochoice who swing on exactly the kinds of things you and heidi are talking about. Its not just women. You guys can weigh in on this. Its the reagan democrats. I think this is overhyped. Thats why they are called reagan democrats because they switched a long time ago. The guys theyre talking about, they are not voted democrat for years and years. Theyre rooting for aeam that will lose most of the time. Theyve got that attitude. Trumps got that. Thank you. Have a nice weekend. Its good to do everything right. Up next, the art of losing. Why this years concession speeches have sounded a lot more like winning. Can you tell the difference . Why cant anyone lose gracefully anymore . This is hardball, the place for politics. One coat, yes there is a day, for every number. There is a time, for all my slumbers. And i can see, that i cant run and hide. One coat guaranteed marquee interior. Behrs most advanced paint. Come find our top rated pain, only at the home depot. Real is touching a ray. Amazing is moving like one. Real is making new friends. Amazing is getting this close. Real is an animal rescue. Amazing is over twentyseven thousand of them. There is only one place where real and amazing live. Seaworld. Real. Amazing people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with noninsulin victoza®. For a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar. But it didnt get me to my goal. So i asked my doctor about victoza®. He said victoza® works differently than pills. And comes in a pen. Victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. Its taken once a day, any time. Victoza® is not for weight loss, but it may help you l