Trump is talking to. Check out bloombergpolitics. Com. Lots more on that. Until tomorrow, thanks for watching. Hardball with Chris Matthews is next. Rocks fly. Police hit at a trump rally. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews. Tonight american politics is d heading to a boiling point. Donald trump was quick to jump. She had a little bad news today, as you know, from some reports came down werent so good. Not so good. The Inspector Generals report
not good. She doesnt have the temperament to be president. Shes got bad judgment. Shes got horribly bad judgment. That was stated by none other than crazy bernie. With ben gghazi and our ambass r ambassador, if she wins youll have nothing but turmoil and fur more years of the obama and you cant take that. There were more protests outside trumps rally. That was today. Demonstrators ripped apart trumps sign and burned trumps hat. Earlier trump went after last nights protesters in albuquerque. He said the protesters in new mexico were thugs who were flying the mexican flag. The rally inside was big and beautiful but outside, criminals. The scenes outside last night were pretty. Rocks flew, Police Injured and people arrested. Inside, trump mocked the sound of hillarys voice and her use
of teleprompters. I watch her speaking. Were going to win north and south and east and west. P i will never say this. She screams. It drives me crazy. I cant listen. I cant listen. Donald trump is a terrible person, and he wanted to buy housing when it was at a low point. Who the hell doesnt . Who doesnt . Politico reported that trump plans to go after clinton on another scandal from the 1990s, white water. An email picks was accidental sent to politico. A Trump Campaign advisor asked a researcher to work up information on Hillary Clinton and whitewater as soon as possible. This is for Immediate Use and afternoon talking points process, close quote. Were watching the Trump Campaign. Their strategy at work, its called attack, attack, attack. Also last night, thats oldies but goodies. I dug up old interviews that showed him not interested in president but would be used to the requirements. Im not sure i would like the life of a politician. Will you release your income tax returns . Its something i havent thought of but i guess as i get closer to the decision, its something i will be thinking of. They are very big. Theyre very complex. I would probably have i probably wouldnt have a problem with doing it. Their veyre very big. I make a lot of money. Lets start with this fact. I dont think it looked very good. I dont think the mexican flag made the case you want to make
if youre out there trying to sell a point of view about assimilating americans and bringing them into the country what are your thoughts . He does not need this. You say it hurts him . It underscores the narrative he will be a divider and have years of this going on. He wants to focus on the state department report. He wants to focus on it like a laser. Get rid of the arrest and the rhetoric that heats things up. Go back to your play book that attacks hillary. Its not the nixon stuff, encouraging minorities to look bad, its go after hillary. I think he is doing better when he goes after hillary rather than wading into these things that people call him a racist and he gets into that space. Thats never going to be good for the general election. The people being arrested are
not people who are planting flowers and quilting quilts. These are people who are throwing rocks at police officers. I think its important to point out this is not make for good democracy when you are so angry at what youre hearing that you want to shut down, completely shut down the ability of people to speak on their own. Donald trump has the right to say what he wants to say, and these people cannot throw rocks at police. They cannot destroy property. I think we have to make the distinction. Wait until the convention. That will be something. Its a selffulfilling prophesy. He says things about you see images of mexican flags clashing with police. If it were the primary it would be helpful for donald to see that. General election voters are trying to unify the party. He hasnt been out doing rallies in places like this. People are reminded of how divisive he is. Its not good to show to general election voters. They want change. Not anarchy. Hillary clinton went after trump for his excellent to be made in a down real estate market. She accused trump of wanting to make money offer the people of misery. He responded. His defense, im a businessman. I see this low life tonight. I see this low life. She puts on an ad, did you know that donald trump was rooting against housing because he want housing to go down. Im a businessman. Thats what im supposed to do. If she did it, she would want to buy at the top. If it goes down, it goes down. Im in business. Who the hell ever thought i would be running for Political Office before . Secretary clinton reacted to those comments at rally today. Donald trump actually rooted for the housing crash that cause five million families their homes. We called him out on it yesterday using his own words. You know what he said in response, well, he bragged about what he did. A good result in Donald Trumps world is he gets his and you get hurt. She has a great argument there. He looked like a complete exploiter of disaster. Thats all they own. Thats all people own is the house. Thats the only value. If you go out there and pick up the pieces, youre an exploiter. Shes not as good with this. He loves this game of smacking back and forth, smack down politics and shes there with her notes trying to keep up with this guy. His speed is different. He can be rotten about this but he seems to really relish this kind of comeback. 1996 movie, mars attacks. Everyone shoots everybody, thats this campaign. They got to stay on theme. They have to build case and stay on them. Who wins this combat . Donald trump. I disagree. I think Hillary Clinton wins because she will underscore this volatility that scares people. Because were in this space right now with donald trump, he has proven over and over again that he wins. He wins in 140 characters a night over and over. Republican primaries, not the general. Let eets talk about this email thing. Ive been hearing about rumors that we all have. What is kome going to do. Rum rumor, rumor. Finally the ig does come out. He didnt like the way she handled the email. Is this a big issue . Yeah because of the skill trump has as a communicator. He paints with a broad brush, crooked hillary, crooked hillary. People dont have to read the entire article. They see a headline tomorrow about this and they say, sort of fits with what donald trump
said. She didnt turn over all the emails at the time she used them or all at once when she left. That was the charge. I think the entire email scandal, it just proves she diz not have the judgment to be president. I think thats the argument that bernie is making. I think the difference between that and i dont know the full details but as i understand it, collin powell, it was made aware he was using a different email. Its damning because theres two segments in there. It was hacked. Mike told me, a certainty that the iranians and russians and chinese were into her server. She has broken the law. Shes broken the law but nothing will happen to her. Shes broken the law. Nothing will happen to her . How does that work . I think in the same way that donald trump has proven that he has the ability to pelt and pelt, and destroy. Hillary were talking about the attorney general. Who will stop her if she does deserve justice here . Maybe im naive but i think her machine is working in the Justice Department to protect her . The fbi takes this seriously. They will not let it slide. What does that mean . Elizabeth warren, the senator from massachusetts called trump an insecure money grubber. Lets watch. What kind of a man roots for people to get thrown out of their house . What kind of man roots for people to get thrown out of their jobs . To root for people to lose their pensions . To root for two little girls in clark county, nevada to end up living out of a van . What kind of a man does that . Ill tell you exactly what kind of a man that does that. Its man who cares about no one but himself. A small [ applause ] a small, insecure, money grubber who doesnt care who gets hurt so long as he makes a profit off it. Well, everybodys in the dirt here even the great elizabeth warren. Trump knocked her as well today. Here he is going after senator warren. I was being hit by pocahantas. Thats elizabeth warren. She gets less known than anybody in the United States senate. She gets nothing done and nothing passed. Shes got a big mouth. They use her because hillary is trying to be very president ial. Shes stopping with the shouting. Hes saying shes shouting. Shes not. What about you seeing elizabeth warren, perfectly cleaned, loved by the progressives, to use her as your attacker. Is that working or is that going to make her a side show fight for him . I dont think they dont have much of a choice. You saw how compelling she was when talking about two little girls in Nevada Living out of a van when how compelling hillary is not. To weaponize this attack against trump. Greed is baked into the brand for 30 years. Its the lack of empathy. She communicates it so much more effectively. I think hillary will rely on people to carry that message or provide a template she can follow. Elizabeth warren is sort of fresh off the bench. She has a regular job. United states senate. Shes not been pounded for the last 20 years. Shes not been pounded but she has the abilities to give it back to trump. Who wins the fight . Thdonald trump will always w a fight when its social media or twitter. She cannot continue to engage with him like there. Most regular people go why is he saying that . The answer from somebody with him is because she said she was part cherokee on a application. She cannot continue to engage in this type of battle with him. He will raise the stakes and raise the stakes. She wont continue to do it. She has credibility with those voters. She has credibility. Shes authentic with those people. I believe think ivy leaguer and all that. She comes from the working class. Im still trying to figure out who youre going to vote for. Coming up, much more on those bad headlines for Hillary Clinton. It says she violated rules on emails while at stake. What is clinton need to do now to limit the damage. Its going to be some plus tomorrow. Big news from a major labor association. Were waiting to see who be United Auto Workers will back for president. Dennis williams will come here to announce and deliver their endorsement for president. Big news, big scoop here tonight. Coming up, more vintage trump. Well hear trump in his own words. Finally, three things you dont know about the 2016 race. Youll hear them here. Youll want to stick around for the hardball round table. Thats tonight too. Its all here on hardball, the place for politics. One coat, yes one coat guaranteed marquee interior. Behrs most advanced paint. Get the best paint for any budget and save 10 or 40 bucks. Only at the home depot. And free hot breakfast. I but our best amenity is samantha. Free wifi, free hot breakfast and free smiles. Get up to 20 percent off as a Hilton Hhonors member at hampton. Com. President obama says not to worry. He has faith in the american political system even though it can look messy to the rest of the world. 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through this period and one of the great things about the United States is that even when it makes mistakes, i think its able to adjust and recognize our mistakes and then we correct course and take different steps. Things are going to be okay. I promise. All right. Hard to read that crowd. Well be right back. Home, car, Life Insurance obviously, ohhh. But with added touches you cant get everywhere else, like claim free rewards. Or safe driving bonus checks. Even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee in means Protection Plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. Its good to be in, good hands. So you dont have to stop. , tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain has two layers of pain relief. The first is fast. The second lasts all day. We give you your day back. What you do with it is up to you. Tylenol®. If you a dry mouth can be ations common side effect. Thats why theres biotene. It comes in oral rinse, spray or gel, so theres moisturizing relief for everyone. Biotene. For people who suffer from a dry mouth. Welcome back. Bad news for Hillary Clinton today. An independent audit says the former secretary of state violated the federal recordkeeping rules. The report said at a minimum, secretary clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department Issues before dealing with government service. She didnt comply with policies. Collin powell also failed to preserve government emails when he was secretary of state. Bryan found released a statement saying contrary to the false theories advanced for some time now, the report notes that her use of personal email was known to officials within the department during her tenure and theres no evidence of any successful breach of the server. It was not unique and she took steps much further and release her records. Whats the gravity of this report . Its not a crippling blow for clinton or her campaign. It wounds one of her key talking points shes been using for the 14 months or so weve been living through this story is this was permitted under state department policy. She was allowed to use an outside email account. The report says you were not
allowed to use an outside email account as your primary means of email since 2005. That clearly overlaps since the time she was secretary of state. Was she told by someone in authority you must not use a personal server . Was she ever told that directly . I havent seen any evidence of that. I dont see any evidence of that in this report. It was a rule that was on the books. It does appear at a few different instances people raised concerns about this set up for security reasons. To her . To her . This is what bugs me about this whole discussion. No one has said secretary clinton was told, admonished by someone in authority, you must use the inside email of the state department or youre breaking the rules. If that was never done, how can this be a serious infraction . Thats all im asking. The question is should she have been familiar enough with
the governments policies and the history of her husbands white house. Shes there for years. None of those people may have known or not many of them may have known this was her only email system and people did raise concerns inside. It was somebody further down. This whole thing is difficult. What do you make . He says theres going to be trouble because the fbi believe theres something here and theyll want something done. Is that true . This is not the last word. Those are going to yields depositions from clinton aides and clinton herself will be b interviewed. The Inspector General puts the ball in the air and the fbi is going to stuff it. Is it like that . I dont think this is an alleyoop play. No one is making that assertion who has he was. Direct lines into whats happening. Theres more to come. Clinton will have to answer some tough questions which she didnt do. Alex baldwin, some democrats are discussing whether Democratic National committee
chair should step down. Theres been a lot of meetings about what color plate we deliver their head on. Thats a little reference to st. John the baptist. It really took me aback when i heard that. How much scope or depth do you have to people who are convinced, who are ready to dump her. How many people like that . Only a few people. Theyre having conversations with numerous colleagues. They have said that Wasserman Schultz is a concern. Whats her problem . What has she done wrong . Shes become the face of a rigged system. What Bernie Sanders calls a rigged system. What did she do that objectively recognized as rigging . Scheduling only six debates. What times . Scheduling on weekends and saturday nights when people arent likely to watch. Also pouncing on sanders so quickly during that dispute over the voter database in december. If she gets dumped as dnc chair, that impairs her chance down there. Sanders has helped her opponent by raising money. The question for democrats at this point is do they want the mess of trying to get rid of debbie wassermanschultz. Whos the person that everyone
will support. The Obama White House has been at odds with sanders for a long time. Theres rorpeports of personal animosity. They have never brought down the hammer and tried to force her out. I cant see they would think this is great moment to do that. The Party Nominee generally is in charge of picking the party chair, is that right . If trump wins, its normalized. He gets to pick the party chair. Its really up to him. Thats been the tradition. We have seen so much tension between the establishment and various people running for the nomination, who knows if people will stick to those rules or not. Good question, but i think they will. Thank you. This is a weird year. Good reporting. Im not sure if shes going to
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