Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160914

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews September 14, 2016 23:00:00

Poll at bloomberg politics. Com where trump is up 5. Well be tracking that and the candidates and their health. Well have more tomorrow. Thanks for watching. Sayonara. Coming up, hardball with Chris Matthews. Bed side manners. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. This afternoon that oddly matched pair of clinton and trump competed to show their medical reports. Only in a campaign this bizarre, this campaign from oz, did one of the candidates show up on dr. Oz to perform the medical equivalent of a strip tease. Maybe i wont show you. Maybe i will. Yes, i will. If your health is as strong as it seems, why not share your medical records . Why not i have no problem in doing it. I have it here. Should i do it . I dont care. It is two letters. One is the report and the other is from lennox hill hospital. May i see them . Yeah, sure. Those were all the tests just done. Reality tv. According to the people in the audience, the Television Doctor was very impressed with Trumps Health other. Than that itty bitty issue of trumps weight. Any way, the physical was conducted by the doctor who wrote a letter last month that he later admitted was completed in five minutes. In it, the doctor said, if elected, mr. Trump i can state unequivocally will be the healthiest individual ever elected. And heres what he told nbc after the letter was released. Do you have any medical concerns about him . Medical concerns about him. I guess you have the same average medical kernels you have for a 70yearold man. How could you know that he would be in the best health of any president in the history of the United States . I like that sentence. I like that sentence, to be quite honest with you. And all the rest. Weve had everything. Dementia and tumors. Weve had every thing. Psychotics and paranoids, all in my own little lifetime. Everybody wants to go to that doctor. This afternoon, dr. Oz gave his assessment of Trumps Health. As a doctor, if he was my patient, i think the results would be good for a man of his age. Meantime the Clinton Campaign released a comprehensive letter. It distributed her medications, lab tests and vitals. The doctor confirmed her physical condition is normal and she is in fine mental condition. Ive got three questions. What is new here and whats missing . Whats new. Well start with Hillary Clinton. Her trs released two records over the last two months. In those two letters were getting more of a picture of whats going on with her health. Good mental health. We find out about her vaccinations. We find out about some of the testing that went on with the pneumonia she had. It was mild pneumonia. She is on antibiotics for it. She is resting now. There are a few pieces missing but i think theyre minor and small pieces. On Donald Trumps end, what were finding out is that we dont have a lot of things that we know about. A hot of pieces to the picture that are missing. Dr. Oz came on the show and showed us a Little Information of what hell show tomorrow. Lets talk about secretary clinton here. Im not a doctor. Im trying to figure out what others are reporting. This sunday, Hillary Clinton had a spat of dehydration. Fair enough. It was a hot day. A lot of people needed more hydration. Water. She was not drinking enough. That led to fainting and it led to her being led to the car in a near collapse situation. Another case of dehydration. In that case it led to her falling and having a concussion. Then the blood clot. Was this a case if somebody was not there to catch her, that she would have fallen and suffered the same reaction which is a concussion . That she went through before . Dehydration, fainting, concussion. What does that pattern tell you . It that she doesnt take very good care of herself. She works extra hard but she is not drinking the water and not listening to her doctor to say you need some rest to get over this. The other thing it tell me, from the tests shes had in the past, specially tests concerning the blood clots. Theyve done a fairly thorough evaluation of those and she is on blood thinning medication. If she hits her head, she could bleed in that area. My main message would be, listen to your doctor and take care of yourself. I understand this is the hot and heavy season on the campaign. The phrase that grabs me blood clots. Is this something thats chronic . She has had three different episodes of these blood clots. She is on three different medications. It prevents other blood clots from forming assuming she is at the right level. Also in an earlier letter, she did what is called ant coagulation studies. Theyre looking for symptoms that might cause her to coagulate a little more with the blood clots. They didnt find any of those. So we dont have an understanding of why she is getting these blood clots and we may never because science hasnt advanced that far. What about trumps doctor . You cant call someone a quack. But to say he is the healthiest person who has ever run for president , it is undocumentable. There is no equivalence to 200 years ago. We cant see john quincy adams. It is. With the long hair, he looks a little strange. What do you make of a doctor who says healthiest guy in history . He is leaning on his arm for some reason. If i called and said i have this new patient. Donald trump. Tell me what he is like. He is the healthiest person. That doesnt tell me anything. Good i have me some history and some back ground. What do you have . A little overweight. 230 something. He is overweight. The 230 puts him in an overweight category bordering on obese. I dont know that i would call him a healthy weight. We dont know much beyond that. He is on an aspirin every day. Why . Did he have issues in the past . We dont know a lot of his picture and thats probably the biggest concerning thing. I talk about it being a puzzle. We have all the pieces to put together. We have a few pieces but we dont have the rest to get a complete picture. Thank you for coming on. Im joined by Mother Jones Washington Bureau chief, david, a trump surrogate and former adviser. Let me ask you a question ive been thinking about. We have the commission on president ial debates. It is not a commission. Everybody thinks it is very straight and very objective. Why dont we have a commission that says no, more pussyfooting around. If you want to run for president of the United States and you make it into the final round, april 1 or something, you have to submit to a medical exam . You can do a financial exam. Youre changing the subl. Ill saying do you know psychiatric evaluation as well. I dont think you can impose it. There is nothing in the constitution that someone has to be sane and healthy. I think you could set something up like that. If a at a time that get lost, he or she may pay a price for that. Maybe a standard set of questions that doctors to have answer about you. Paul songas was in very bad shape when he ran we have other past incidents, president kennedy, fdr, their health was a concern. It was concealed from the American People. So i think theres some validity. Roosevelt lasted a few months, or a month. There is something to the American People wanting to know. At the end of the day, there are bigger issues that people around the Kitchen Table are concerned about. Sth i dont know if it is mr. Trumps colon oscopy or mrs. Clintons feigning. Im interesting in this. They both went to the trouble today of putting out some medical material. They think the public wants to see it. You disagree. I think the public wants to hear about policy. About deeper issues. Weve been talking about policy for years, sort of. You think the tax thing, lets talk about taxes. This is death and taxes almost. Bernie sanders went right through his campaign and someone said he never became the nominee. I think he would have had a harder time not releasing his taxes were he the nominee. Today wave piece in newsweek talking about the Trump Organization financial ties. Can we stay with one thing at a time . No, really. Lets just talk about taxes. I want to talk about taxes stafl on taxes. What is trump hiding . I think three things, he may not make as much money as you would think a 10 billion millionaire would. He may not pay a tax rate. And he may not give anything to charity. Why do you think trump is hiding in. I dont think if he is hiding anything. President obama said he is hiding his tax returns. Just because president obama says it mr. Trump has. That after his you had a is it done, he will release his taxes. How do we even know he is having an audit now . Why do we have to assume everything he says is not true . Why does he have to wait for to it end. It is a choice. Just a minute. It is up to him and hes closen not to do it. I think he said after the audit is opportunity he will release it. Anybody running for president say the same thing . They surely could. If he doesnt release it before the election, it is meaningless. The only opponent to release the taxes is that people want to know very important details. The guy who has his finger on the nuclear button. Governor pence released his tax records and what did that tell you . Thats different. It was a choice. And it didnt tell us anything. It didnt tell us that his ability to be president or the vice president. When pence was being vetted by donald trump, he gave donald trump his tax returns. So donald trump says thats good enough for me that i need to know about your tax returns but he tells american public, forget about it. I do not have to give it to you. Forget about it. Thatbiggest bs. Who is auditing him . Taxes from five years ago. He can do this. It is his decision. He is hiding behind the audit as an excuse. He is having an audit right now. Do you accept my rule of politics . If it is better than it looks, theyll show you. If it is worse, they wont. Thats what they do. Theyll show you neglect looks better. Hide anything that makes them look worse. Thats what politicians do. Anyone who keeps away from the public something theyre proud to show tells me theyre not proud to show. There is probably too much that he cant put it out. He could give us the first page. How much you paid, how much you made and how much you gave to charity. The emails. The molls dont count. It is not the same thing. We should take many trump at his word that he will do that. Youre taking him at his word that this is an audit. Do i. I happen to trust our leaders. And i want to trust them. Thats crazy to wait that long. David who doesnt trust known. Thank you for coming on. A very trusting man. We havent had this much trust in a long time. Hot stuff. Wait until you hear what colin powell said. If you really want to know what he is thinking, you have to check the hacked email. It shows the former secretary of state, wait until you hear about the birther thing. And part of the quote, racist, he called on it this Birther Movement. Theres more where that came from. Powell, right in the kisser. Plus, trump goes to flint, michigan. Some are saying he is just using it as a prop. And tonight, the roundtable. Democrats claim that Hillary Clinton is held to a different standard than donald trump. Finally, my election diary. Music for your retirement, you wanted to celebrate the little things, before they get too big. And that is why you invest. The best returns arent just measured in dollars. Td ameritrade. Around hgets the waffle. Rd but for all the other birds who could use a few more minutes of sleep, weve got you covered. Enjoy free breakfast on the run and free wifi. Book at hampton. Com for a guaranteed discount. Lets check the hardball scoreboard. In ohio, a new Research Poll shows donald trump with a 5point lead over Hillary Clinton. 4641. In florida, trump with a threepoint lead. Next, nevada. Where the new poll shows clinton leading by 2. Trump, 44. Clinton, 42. Clinton led by 4 in the mon mouth poll in july. Clinton, 50, trump, 42. In michigan, clinton leading by 5 points. Last month clinton led by 10. Were seeing how trump is moving up in florida, nevada, ohio. Not quite enough for michigan. O . No, only lawyers do that. So when you got rearended and needed a tow, your Insurance Company told you to look at page five on your policy. Did it say great news. Youre covered on page five . No. It said, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah. The Liberty Mutual app with coverage compass™ makes it easy to know what youre covered for and what youre not. Liberty stands with you. Liberty mutual insurance. Take on any road with intuitive allwheel drive. The nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. Now get 0 apr for 72 months, plus 500 bonus cash. Personal emails sent by retired four star general and former secretary of state Powell Powell have been leaked online with hackers with suspected ties to russia. Some of those emails first reported by buzz feed news and later confirm reveal powells disdain for donald trump. In one email, shamd trump for perpetuating the birther conspiracy. Powell writes, yup, the whole Birther Movement was racist. In june of this year, powell goes so far as to call the republican nominee a National Disgrace and an international pariah. Other emails which have not been verified, powell calls benghazi stupid witch hunt. He asked if ambassador stevens exposed himself to risk. Powell also had some criticism for Hillary Clinton who he called greedy is that expressed his frustration with being dragged into the stories about her emails. The site that released the emails is believed to have obtained the emails from russian hackers. General powell told nbc news, the hackers have a lot more. A warning that carries a lot of weight in light of the charges that russia may tamper with elections. Let me start with you. What do you make of this, what do you think the power of this news is . Probably the most respected. The leading light. The one that everybody in the country seems to trust. One of our really renounced leaders was so open in his secret kornls about what he thinks of trump, and the bertherism movement and he calls Hillary Clinton greedy. Youre right. This is someone considered a statesman by a large swath of the country. And he has not until now inserted himself publicly into the president ial election very much. Adds gravity to his criticism of trump. As a Birther Movement, as a racist. The fact that he is so viciously critical of trump in these private emails this is what he really feels about hess party nominee. We all watch him. He went for 2008. It does matter. He talks about people in the Republican Party as idiots. The cheneys. He talked about them and said the party left him a long time ago and he is pretty scathing about the Republican Party. In an email to his daughter. I think the more surprising thing in these is whoo he says about Hillary Clinton who he says is a friend of his but then says she is greedy, not transformational and overly ambitious. A lot of hubris, too. She ruins everything with her hubris. Messes up everything. And im surprise that had he is that critical of Hillary Clinton on email. I think everybody is learning now what you say on email will be public pretty soon. Isnt it funny . I will like most people. I have a certain view of the guy. I think of him as an older brother. Not that much older. I think he got bamboozled going into the iraq war. He is more of a salute guy than a politician. It makes me happy. I know who they are. I think theyre the biggest hawks in the world. Here is a die when is a soldier, a general, you get into the wars when you have to and you figure out how to get out when you get in. He attacks cheneys. He says theyre idiots. He was criticizing the book that he, dick and liz cheney wrote together. He also takes on rumsfeld. He and could noti right. They say rumsfeld and the nation building messed up. He says the boys in the back are brain dead. Such a great idea to begin with. Were trying to figure out newark and detroit. Let me ask you this about this election. This is a chinese water torture. This is show and nobody thinking it will stop until election day. Are we getting some incredible holy cow stuff coming in in october . We dont know what is coming. We know what colin powell. Today. That there is a lot more out there. Julian assange said before the debate he will release more stuff about Hillary Clinton. And i think thats the biggest story. It is not the inside beltway of who said what. So far no stunning surprises. Even at the dnc. Confirmations of things we might have suspected. We have an expert with us. You know more than either of us. Do you think it will be a real water fall . From the email chain . Look. I dont see how there couldnt be. You have julian assange. The russian hackers. You have all these people promising to deliver more. Theyre not bluffing. And i think that even Powell Powell is saying the hackers have a lot more suggests he is nervous about what will come out. My colleagues at buzz feed are still sifting through emails that d. C. Leaks is providing now. There could bel many more. I think both campaigns need to be ready. Thank you for coming. Up next, donald trump visited flint, michigan today. Well talk to flints mayor about trumps trip, next. 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