President a moron. According to new nbc reporting, its what tillerson didnt say that further enraged trump. Secretarys refusal to deny that he called the president a moron in his Opening Statement and in his responses to questions from reporters stoked trumps anger and widened the rift between the two men, officials say. Meanwhile the president has rejected the advice of his Top National Security advisers and decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal leaving it in the hands of congress to decide what to do. The world is looking on in horr horror. According to the Washington Post, President Trumps decision to decertify the nuclear deal could start a chain of events that would sharply divide the United States from its closest traditional allies in the world. None of the three european signatories, britain, france and germany believes that iran is in violati violation. And even l each has said it will not renegotiate the nuclear deal. Then there was the president s bizarre statement just last night during a photo session with his top military advisers and their spouses before a dinner at the white house. Listen to what the president said. You guys know what that represents . Maybe its the calm before the storm. Reporter whats the storm . Could be the calm before the storm. Reporter what storm, mr. President . We have the world ears great military people in this room. Ill tell you that. And were going to have a great evening. Thank you all for coming. Reporter what storm, mr. President . Youll find out. Reporter give us a hint. Thank you everybody. What storm exactly was the president referring to. He offered no clarity today. Reporter mr. President , what did you mean by calm before the storm, what did you mean by that . Thank you very much. Youll find out. White house spokeswoman Sara Huckabee sanders was equally vague. Lets watch her. Reporter was he referring to military action when he said calm before the storm . As weve said many times before, i know the president has, as i have from this podium on quite a few occasions, were never going to say in advance what the president is going to do. And as he said last night, youll have to wait and see. For more im joined by joy reid, wall street Journal White House reporter eli stock ls and nick stein burger, former speech writer for samantha powers. Joy, i havent seen you in a while. Youve been a superstar on the weekend. Lets try your luck on a weekday. Heres the question. What is he talking about and why he is talking about in this language, big thoughts are coming to me, i may be doing something important, i cant say what it is. What is this about . Chris, it is great to see you. I definitely miss talking you on a more regular basis. Really good to be here. This is the fundamental recklessness of donald trump. He thinks what hes doing is keeping everyone on edge and giving himself an advantage strategically by not telling people what hes thinking. But what hes doing is destabilizing not just our situation visavis iran, this idea that hes going to decertify irans compliance when all of our allies say they are in compliance. But if youre in beijing right now thinking about what to do about north korea and about how to approach pyongyang, why should north korea believe that a deal we put on the table to get them to stand down from their Nuclear Ambitions if iran made a deal with the United States and the next president comes along open throws it in the trash. Donald trump is wreaking havoc on our relationships around the world. No wonder Rex Tillerson is frustrated. Let me go to this. When you say the calm before the storm, theres three storm fronts that we know about, north korea, as joy said, iran and whether were going the decertify and who is he going to fire at the highest level of his administration. Were not guessing all over the place. We think its one of those three areas. Its insane to think this is the calm because nothing feels calm around this administration. Sara sanders was asked about this, is he referring to something specific. She said not that she knows. He had an opportunity to ease the anxieties and say look, nothing is imminent. He didnt. He likes the drama. He likes teasing it out. President s have often been very careful and sober with their language about Foreign Policy, about the use of the military. You dont see that from this president. Even standing next to the families of our servicemen and women. Its anyones gez what hes talking about. Lets guess to why hes thinking about decertifying. Let me go to nick on this. April asked him from the White House Pressroom today, are you thinking about firing basically shi said, are you thinking about firing your chief of staff. And i i guess its crazy land. An attorney general he doesnt like, doesnt like sessions, doesnt consider the guy he wants, doesnt seem to like his secretary of tate. The guy reportedly called him a moron and hasnt taken it back. Which is pretty hurough. And it seems like he may not like the straight jacket hes in thanks to his chief of staff. So the question is, john kelly. Nick, how do we know whats going on here . Do you have any reporting on this . Is he going to fire either the secretary of state of the chief of staff tonight or this weekend . What actually is the decision point, what pushes him over the edge in terms of whether he trusts them or not. And in fact it is not their leadership of the institutions that theyre in charge of but its their Blind Loyalty and ability to express their loyalty to him. There are legitimate reasons to question whether Rex Tillerson is the person who should be leading the state department. I have a piece out this week that talks about a growing number of career foreign and Civil Service officers who no longer feel that they can serve in this administration because their voices arent heard, because they dont have a seat at the table and because frankly this administration puts no trust in diplomacy. Now that is a legitimate knock on this secretary of state. That doesnt seem to bother the president. What does is maybe something that was said that was disrespectful of him in an offhanded comment. Let me stay with you on one question. Representing the government of ghana or any government, do i think the secretary of state is the person i need to get ahold of . Does he have anything to do with anything . Repeatedly this president undercut the credibility of his own secretary of state. And the ability, the leverage that any secretary of state in any administration has is the belief of people outside the United States that he speaks for the president. If i were a leader or a diplomat outside of the United States now, i would not have that trust. The other trust that Rex Tillerson has lost is the trust of the institution that he leads. You know, you dont show up to a department and before you basically have even found your way around propose cutting a third of it before you even understand how it works, but thats what he did. I know. So when you lose that trust both above and below, i dont know how you can credibly do your job anymore. Joy, let me go back to my wheel house, that is this president s ethnic look at history. This president doesnt want to admit that his predecessor was barack obama. He wants to erase his face, his name, his origin, everything from the history books. Hes proven it over and over again. Its not a joke to think that one of the chief reasons he wants to desecertify the irania nuclear deal is that it works, it is a success, just like obama is a success, like his whole life has been a success. He must be erased, just like obamacare, the First SuccessfulHealth Care Program weve had in this country since Teddy Roosevelt talked it up. So he must destroy his legacy. Th is that the cardinal reason this president keeps going back to a deal is working, its restraining Nuclear Problem so we dont have to contend with two at the same time. We can focus on north korea. Why would he want a twofront war except out of weird weird bitterness toward the success of barack obama . And that his own am i right . I dont know. Check me. I think you are. I think that were constantly working through the psychology of donald j. Trump. He didnt making decisions based on policy. Hes making decisions based on psychology and his obsession with barack obama. His obsession with outdoing and surpassing barack obama. Hes angry that barack obama had the respect of the world. So hes crashing through the world, ripping up agreements that obama had anything to do with. There is no objective reason for him to decertify the iran deal. No reason to do it other than Barack Obamas name is on it, he negotiated it, therefore it has to die. And theres a part of Donald Trumps base that feels the same way, that feels that his job is to erase the memory of barack obama. But the problem with this approach to Foreign Policy is that its dangerous. Is that it not only impacts iran and our relationships there but our relationships with our european allies who helped negotiate this deal and, as weve been discussing, our stance toward north korea which is looking at what were doing with iran and asking ourself whether it makes sense to try to cut a deal or stand down from hostilities from the United States. Its incredibly dangerous. Well said. Everybody has a little vengeance in their heart. Im just checking you with this. Maybe im wrong. Remember the White House Press dinn dinner. Oh yeah. And trump was made a fool of. Obama gave it to him good. That motivated him to run. And i wonder whether this is bigger than the moron line. Moron is fresher. But obama, his satire was much more brutal, i thought. And most of trumps policy is driven by domestic politics and by this president s own ego. And so shes right, anything that obama did thats considered a legacy accomplishment, he wants it gone. Its the same thing with the paris agreement, same thing this week with the power plant, repeal by the epa that were not talking about because it cant break into the news cycle, the contraception rule that the administration is scrapping today. Theres a lot of bluster im getting rid of this, this was a terrible deal, ill make a better deal. Often times his own advisers telling him to stay in the iran deal, these things matter, theyve urged him to stay in this too and hes not listening to his own advisers on a lot of these things. But the bluster sometimes obscures the fact that it takes three years to unwind the paris agreement. On the iran deal it goes to congress. Hes kicking it to congress and letting them decide what to do. Could be bluster leading to more bluster. The president s reported decision seems to be at odds with two of his Top National Security advisers. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson said he has a difference of opinion than the president. And here was james mattis just this week. Do you believe its in our National Security interest at this time to remain in the jocpa . Thats a yes or no question. Yes, senator, i do. If we can confirm that iran is living by the agreement, if we can determine that this is in our best interest, then clearly we should stay with it. I believe at this point in time, absent indications to the contrary, it is something the president should consider staying with. Nick, why would the president want to bring down the iranian deal. Seems like he cant do it under the procedure at hand here. But he wants to. What is he thinking . I mean weve seen this with obamacare on the home front when they dont have anything to replace it with. And in this case Everybody Knows the only thing stopping the iranians is the fact that weve opened up trade with them again and they would rather have that than five more years in the coming years to developing a Nuclear Weapon. We get rid of that incentive, whats to stop them in. Theres nothing to stop them. And frankly the people who negotiated this deal are aware that it is not the perfect deal that President Trump has said he seeks. You know, iran creates a lot of trouble and is a threat to National Security in many ways. They Fund Terrorism in the region where they are a threat to israel, they repress the rights of people within their country. The iran deal is not meant to fix those things. It is meant to restrain iran from getting a Nuclear Weapon and by every measure it has for the last two years succeeded. So the burden is on this administration to say if all of the experts say that iran is complying with the deal and our allies say please stay in the deal, why are we pulling out . The only explanation i can come up with, in addition to the ego issues that youve raised, is this is an administration that has a fundamentally different view of americas role in the world. And they believe in a zero sum game where if the rest of the world wants it must be bad for america. And that is misguided. American leadership is predicated on the idea that we go out, we lead in the world and we persuade others to tackle problems we cant fix on our own. I dont think this administration at the top believes that. He also said he was against stupid wars. And i think going to war with iran is not a good idea. What time is your show on tomorrow . 10 00 a. M. Eastern. On this network right here. Hold that dial. Thank you. Joy, youre the best in the business. Thank you. Well she will be if she isnt already. Eli, thank you, and nick, thank you. Must have been great working with samantha. Take a look at the crowd steve bannon is pushing right now for public office. Mr. Ten commandments, roy moore of alabama, michael grim of Staten Island and kelly ward. Shes a piece of work. She called John Mick Cain weak and old and said he should retire so she could have his seat in the senate. As the death toll climbs in puerto rico, theres no criticism that President Trump hasnt a clue how to handle the disaster. Remember this bombshell news that dropped just one year ago. Im automatically attracted to beautiful women. I just start kissing them. Like a mag not. And when youre a star, they let you do it. 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I want to start with you. What a rose gallery this guy is putting together. Its the land of broken toys. You know, steve bannon said that he was going to be a killing machine. And he is. The thing hes killing is the Republican Party and conservatism. These guys can lose generals in red states like arizona, can