Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20171115

Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20171115 00:00:00

That does it for the beat tonight. You can always find us on facebook at the the beat with ari. Hardball has promised is up next. Finding more, lets play hardball. Good evening, im chris mat use. San francisco, roy moore republican colleagues, a new powerful voice that has weighed in. United states Attorney General and former senior senator from alabama, Jeff Sessions joined a number of his former colleagues in saying he has no reason to doubt the women who have accused u. S. Senate candidate roy moore of Sexual Misconduct allegations moore denies. Heres the Attorney General. I took the liberty of reviewing federal crimes against children, particularly those dealing with sexual or physical abuse. As you well know, lee coughman, wendy miller, debby watson gibson and Beverly Young nelson, these young women have accused this individual, judge moore, who is running for a federal office, the United States senate, of child sexual activity. Do you believe these young women . I am have no reason to doubt these young women. Powerful statement there. Yesterday another woman Beverly Young nelson came forward to accuse moore of Sexual Assaulting her when she was 16. Roy moore has adamantly denied the allegation, has said he does not even know nelson. Lets watch him. The people of alabama know me. They know my character. They know what ive stood for in the political world for over 40 years. I can tell you without hesitation, which is absolutely false. I never did what she said i did. I dont even know the woman. I dont know anything about her. I dont even know where the restaurant is or was. If you look at this situation, youll see that because im 11 points or 10 or 11 points ahead, this race being 28 days off, this is a political maneuver. Maybe they should confront each other. That would be good. Anyway, as of now 15 senators are called on moore to withdraw from the race. Five have withheld comment. A majority are qualified their remarks by saying the allegations are true, moore should step aside. Its too late to remove moore from the ballot, mcmcconnell told reporters he had spoken to the president and he was exploring all options. Lets watch mcconnell. Theres no question theres a deep concern here. Roy moore should step aside. The women who have come forward are entirely credible. Hes obviously not fit to be in the United States senate. And weve looked at all the options to try to prevent that from happening. Obviously this close to the election its a very complicated matter. And i think once the president and his team get back well have further discussions about it. That was forboding. This comes in the wake of two explosive reports from the New Yorker Magazine and a. L. Com which allege that Quote Gadsden Locals Say Moores Predatory Behavior at a mall, restaurants not a secret. The magazine and newspapers spoke to more than a dozen people who had heard for years moore had been banished from the mall. Locals were troubled by roy moores interactions with teen girls at the gadsden mall. The new yorker requested a comment from the Moore Campaign, the request went unanswered. Msnbc spoke with an employer of that mall. Theres another employer roy moore is banned, the Police Officer, Security Guard said hes banned from the mall. If you see him he didnt say he was banned. If you see him, let me know. Ill take care of it. I requestquestioned why, and the officer would not tell me. After he left, i asked my manager and he said he had been bothering the girls in the mall. And at the mall at that time was were going to stay with jeff in our lane and were going to talk about the issues that we continue to talk about. Theyre going to have to make their own judgments about roy moore. Theyre going to have to make their own judgments about doug jones. Im applying for a job. Hes applying for a job. And thats the way people of alabama need to look at this. Who would i hire to represent me in the United States senate . That was pretty smart. Anyway, this evening nbc news reports that according to fec filings, the rnc has pulled out of a joint fund raising agreement. Im joined by kyle whitmore, heidi presblaw, and john raybender. Political strategist. What do we make, kyle, of this Tape Robocalls or recorded voice, it looks to me like theyre trying to start real trouble in terms of the media there. What do you make of this . Yeah, this seems to be dirty trix to discredit the Washington Post here in alabama. Its a robodialer that news station here in alabama, wkrg is reporting about right now. It claims to be from someone named bernie bernstein, swallow that one if you can. Sure. Who is calling from the Washington Post to pay 5,000 to 7,000 to women who have claims that theyre not really going to investigate, but they are going to report. And then they give an email address where you can send those claims into. Of course its a bogus email address. It bounces back. Marty barren from the Washington Post put out a statement saying this is fraudulent. This is not how they do business. Media throughout alabama are explaining to people, no, this is not how National Media work. They do not pay for stories the way you might see tabloids do. I want everybody to listen now. Weve got the robocall. Listen to this now, and everybody watching will know what game is being played here. Regional prejudice, anti media prejudice, pulling out all the stops to misinform the listener to this robocall. Lets listen. Hi, this is bernie bernstein, im a reporter for the Washington Post. Im calling to see if anyone at this address is a female 54 to 57 years old, damaging remarks for a reward of 5,000 to 7,000. We will not be fully investigating these claims, however, we will report heidi, you and i are friends long enough to watch these things. This looks like the dirtiest, sleaziest trick. New york accent, jewish name, it is so over the top or under the top. I dont know. I guess theyre aiming at the lowest common denominator, a person who would buy this crap. Its so completely obvious. They are hitting all of the Trigger Points both of the base in terms of ethic prejudice, in theres one accuser, i thought everybody had to be cautious. Five credible accusers. The Tipping Point for me, when roy moore said to my understanding i dated some of those teenagers when i was in my 30s, but i made sure i got the approval of their mother. To me if youre 30 and need approval from somebodys mother to date them, theres probably something wrong with that to begin with. Sure, he can do that. If he believes in the jvalues, all hes doing the letting a another democrat to win this seat. He can fight this better as a noncandidate than as a candidate. This is the going to live with him the entire time if he does indeed get elected. Its only going to get worse. If he truly wants to prove hes innocent, i would strongly recommend he get off the ticket and the ballot and go defend himself. Im wondering if thats really the case. Anyway, kyle, let me ask you this about this. What role does Jeff Sessions the Attorney General, what does the fact he will not defend this guy mean to the people of alabama . Two things. Absolutely, two things. Jeff sessions is probably the most popular public official in the state of alabama, or from the state of alabama. Cant quite explain that myself, but its true. And much of his following overlaps with much of roy moores following. This maybe not a complete one to one comparison, but its a significant overlap. If anyone is on the fence about believing this, they now have someone that they see, that they know, they trust, saying that, yes, they should take these allegations seriously. And you put that next to the sort of flailing about that were seeing from the Moore Campaign with whether these auto dialers are from them or someone allied with them, who knows . But today kayla moore is sharing i know fake news has become a loaded term now. But shes Sharing Stuff on her Facebook Page saying that the old hickory restaurant didnt even exist and theres clearly, like, advertisements in the Gadsden Newspaper showing that stuff exists. It shows the desperation theyre seeing. When you see someone like for alabamans to see someone like Jeff Sessions to give credibility to these accuser, he doesnt have reason to doubt them, thats going to impact alabamaens, especially tomorrow when there is a Steering Committee of the Alabama State Republican Party that is meeting to try to figure out how to make Heads Or Tails of this situation. Heidi, what strikes me in all these accusations, theyre all delivered by people who have nothing to gain except that they believe Something Like this should be stopped, that he should be stopped. And but the one that grabbed me was this one today about the mall, and the fact that employees of a shopping mall which had a couple high end stores in it, had a movie theater, sounds like a nice place for teenagers to hang out, as they do in most malls, this guy would be banned, so notorious in his menacing of these young girls that he would be banned. I mean, this is the fact that everybody would know, we dont let roy moore around here anymore. He wouldnt be banned from the u. S. Senate, but 450hed be ban from this shopping mall. It really cuts to a new level than just horrible, felonious behavior, notoriously felonious behavior. Its like they had a Neighborhood Watch out on roy moore. Yet he ascended to all these high positions and no one spoke out. Chris, this is also a moment in which we as a nation are getting an education on the pervasiveness of sexual abuse and the temerity of any victims to ever speak out. If you talk to some of these women now being interviewed they are saying it wasnt until the other stories came out, the initial story on Leigh Corfman and the climate hero in, Harvey Weinstein hadnt, roger ailes, all these women who went before them to tell 1 3 stories that they found the strength to come out and share their storys as well. In the past, just like roy mor signed in a yearbook, many of these women did have the community to fear, that people wouldnt believe them, and that there would be a backlash, and counterattacks, dirty campaign to tarnish their reputations. To your point, nothing at all to gain. House Speaker Paul Ryan emerged, he urged moore to end his campaign. And jeff flake would vote to expel moore if he got in there. He should step aside. Number one, these allegations are credible. Number two, he should if he cares about the values and the people he claims to care about, he should step aside. If roy moore wins would you be open to voting to expel him . Yes, i would. John, youre the political guy. What do you make of this election . I want to be honest, put all the factors in play here. One reason moore people think they can pull this out besides their lead so far in the polls is the Abortion Rights issue, very strong and culturally conservative evangelical state. They go after moore is reminding everybody that doug jones is prochoice, for Abortion Rights. Can that turn this election . Yeah, i mean, its that values question. Its a good question, does being prochoice trump somebody who has a completely different problem that a lot of people would find the seriousness about that as well. We may find that out on election day. Republicans from leadership on down have been united behind condemning the behavior and standing up for the credibility of the women that have come forward. Thats helpful for the republican brand to show they are not going to worry more about this election than they are about whats right and wrong. I think it was the right thing to do. Well said, john. I also think its interesting that doug jones, the democratic candidate down there for senate is pushing the issue of a job application. Its not a judgment over values or even party identity, who do you want to employ as your u. S. Senator . Its obviously the best chance he has to make that the issue, the who, not the what. Kyle whitmire, thank you. Attorney general Jeff Sessions says he wasnt lying when he testified he didnt know anyone in the Trump Campaign who had contact with the russians. He just didnt remember. Why did he remember shooting down george pop ldop lists ide of they are ag saying that to investigate the uranium deal, the one the right wing wants you to think is the biggest scandal since the rosenbergs. Is trump using asia, he was frustrated, that was his word, He Couldnt Sick the Department Of Justice on Hillary Clinton. The round table has come here tonight with much more on roy moore. Let me finish tonight from california where im met with the dangerous last campaign waged here in 1968. This is hardball where the action is. woman one year ago today mom started searching for her words. And my brother ray and i started searching for answers. vo when its time to navigate inhome care, follow that bright star. Because brightstar care earns the same accreditation as the best hospitals. And brightstar care means an rn will customize a plan that evolves with moms changing needs. woman because dad made us promise wed keep mom at home. vo call 8444brightstar for your free home Care Planning guide. To washington following his 12day returning to the white house pretty much empty handed. He failed to secure any new Trade Agreements with the country he visited and Neither China nor russia agreed to impose any new sanctions on north korea. If you ask President Trump, the trip was a tremendous success. Lets hear him. It was red carpet like nobody i think has probably ever received. Ive made a lot of friends at the highest level. Whether its china and the incredible the incredible opening they gave us, people really have never seen anything like it. And japan likewise, it was a tremendous rollout. And south korea, as you know, we made a speech. I believe seldom has there been the opportunity to speak for somebody from the outside world in that hall. Coming to the philippines was terrific and coming to vietnam was terrific. Vietnam treated us incredibly, as did the philippines. We just could not have been treated nicer. Its like hes talking about the opening of a new golf course. Well be right back. Videogame dance music [ clapping ] and thats why every memorial we create is a true reflection of the individual. Only a Dignity Memorial Professional can celebrate a life like no other. Find out how at sanfranciscodignity. Com. Back to hardball. Attorney general Jeff Sessions testified before the House Judiciary Committee today for the First Time Since the revelations from two former Trump Campaign aides raised serious questions about the truthfulness of sessions past statements. At the center of his Testimony Today was his assertion last month he was not aware of any Campaign Surrogates communicating with russians. Heres what sessions said in october. You dont believe that surrogates from the Trump Campaign had communications with the russians . Is that what youre saying. I did not and im not aware of anyone else that did. Since making that statement, the unsealed plea deal of George Papadopoulos side the testimony of carter page said sessions was in detailed communication. He presided over the famous march campaign meeting, papadopoulos revealed he had connections that could involve a meeting between then Candidate Trump and president putin himself. He recalls that meeting now, but only after hearing about it in news reports. I do now recall that the march 2016 meeting at the trump hotel that mr. Papadopoulos attended, but i have no clear recollection of the details of what he said at that meeting. After reading his account and to the best of my recollection, i believe that i wanted to make clear to him that he was not authorized to represent the campaign with the russian government or any other Foreign Government for that matter. But i did not recall this event which occurred 18 months before my testimony of a few weeks ago. Well, sessions also said he did not recall being informed that carter page planned to go to moscow despite the fact that page testified he told sessions in advance of the trip. Sessions got heated on that point when pressed by democratic congressman Hakeem Jeffries. Lets watch that moment. At that meeting carter page told you that the that he was going to moscow in a few days. Is that right . Yes. Okay. Thats and he than

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