Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20171129

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews November 29, 2017 00:00:00

Dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15 years old. During the interview she repeatedly pressed post reporters to give their opinions on the effects her claims could have on the moore candidacy if she went public. The post never reported the unsubstantiated story. Instead they researched the woman trying to push the story. They found a website with someone with the same name, Jamie Phillips, for her to work in the conservative Media Movement to combat the lies and deceit of liberal mainstream media. Closed quote. According to Washington Post, they followed her to her home and saw her going to the new york office of project seritas. It sets up sting operations, such as acorn. The Trump Foundation donated 10,000 to the group in 2015. Last wednesday phillips met with a post reporter at a restaurant in alexandria, virginia. Phillips had arrived early and was waiting. Her Purse Resting on the table. When mccrumben put her purse next to phillips purse to block a possible camera shot, phillips moved hers. Mccrumben confronted her about her story, lets watch. Do you still have an interest in, as this says, combatting the lies and deceit of the liberal msm . Do you still have an interest in working in the conservative Media Movement to combat the lies and deceit of the liberal msm . Is that is that still your interest . No, not really. Yeah. Not at this point. Mumble, mumble. The post also confronted Project Veritas founder james okeeffe. Lets watch that. Does Jamie Phillips work for Project Veritas. Did you guys send her to pose ta victim of roy moore to the post. Im 15 minutes late. Ive got to run. Jamie phillips, does she work for Project Veritas . He was quiet, wasnt he. He told hem to come back later. He was waiting from a confrontation of his own. Does Jamie Phillips work for Project Veritas . Are you going to answer that question . Im going to have a few things to say here. Were going to talk for a while. Second question. Yeah. Are you working with roy moore . Okay. So are you working with steve bannon . Im going to ask are you working with the Republican Party . No are you working with the Republican Party of alabama. Im joined by usa today, National Political reporter for axios, and the Political Editor at the root. One thing i love about this story, besides people getting caught with sneaky business on trying to put a punk job on theWashington Post, on selling a salacious story, a punking operation. It shows that real newspapers with real editors and to be honest with you, grown ups have been around a few times on the ride here who spot and smell deceit. They saw this as a setup. You know the musical schoolhouse rock, how a story gets into print with real journalism. This was paeople acting just lie you want them to act. Show it in journalism schools. Listen to an unsolicited comment from somebody. You dont take it at face value. Check it out and confront them if you find its false and phony. Good for them. I can see this Story Running if the post had fallen for the trap, big splash, 15yearold claims she had an abortion after being impregnated by roy moore, the next day, the breitbart sort of organization, veritas, a bad nasty offense. If we can destroy the Washington Post, then all the people in alabama, just shows you cant trust those northern reporters. Theyre out to get us. Thats the thing. There were two parts of this video that struck me. Everyone in my department was teaching this today. It wasnt the matter of how degrading and despicable it is to have a woman pretend to be a victim of abuse. And she had an abortion because of it, all lies. How many times do you get the reporters to say this would harm roy moore. Even if they got them on tape say, yes, this would damage them. They want to prove bias if they cant prove the reporters they report a pocketbook, a purse if you will, on the table, apparently every time the legitimate Washington Post reporter would walk in for two of the meetings there happened to be a big purse sitting on the table and she puts her purse, this is like black spy, white roy moore said the allegations to him were completely false and malicious, lets watch. Why are they doing this . Well, im going to tell you why theyre doing this. Theyre trying to hide the true issues, which faked the people in this country and state that they want resolved. Its no different than when the Washington Post brought out the Russian Investigation at a time when President Trump is trying to get his agenda passed. Everybody knows i have not one run one negative ad. But im going to take off some gloves and show the truth in this campaign. Well, somebodys put some gas in this guys tank. He looks like he might win now. I always thought he was going to win, chris. Really . At the core issue here you have a lot of conservative Republican Voters who view the Democratic Party as inherently immoral. If youve got groups of people, not a criticism, just a fact, if youve got groups of people who think that two consenting men having sex is a greater sin, that is a greater sin than what they think roy moore might have possibly done. I always thought he was going to win the election. If it ever looks like hes not winning, those are undecided voters. These are various questions that surmount any act of personalvilleny at all. Exactly. I dont think we know that yet. Roy moore what do you think of this third guy coming in, lee buzz by, hes a writein candidate, lee busby, he usually votes republican. Lets watch how that affects life. Take a listen to him. Were you a supporter of roy moore before the allegations of Child Molestation . What chienanged your mind that couldnt voit for roy moore . It was not the swirl going on. Not that at all. Ive got no interest in it. I hope they get it sorted out but its not my interest. I dont know roy moore. Ive never met him. Through theres a sense of selftryiself rig right jason, he looks attractive, i hate to make judgments, he seemed like raw material there for a candidate. Got the right accent. Seems rough and ready. I dont know what to make of him. Its sort of wes clark of alabama, tough and macho. I think at the end of the day, though, i dont think this ends up making that much of a difference. If youre someone whos offended by roy moore, and the republicans, like i cannot vote for this guy, then you write for the writein candidate. There are enough people, look, we need those votes in the senate. I dont think the first Party Candidate who wins because this third guy entering the race, hes pro life like roy moore, if youre pro life and you cant vote youre against gay rights too, whatever, maybe hes the safe way to vote against roy moore without voting for the enemy. It is, but i still think he votes for roy moore. It helps the democrat, but its irrelevant to the outcome, i would guess. I agree. How can it be irrelevant if you still think roy moore might loud . We dont know. Turnouts going to be low. If the jason, you made a great point, repeat it about when people said they hadnt made up their mind. They had made up their mind. They were for moore. Thats basically 101 in political science. We saw those numbers occur during the worst week of these allegations and suddenly you have 8 saying undecided. Theyre not undecided. Busby may end making a difference if its a close race. Its a five or sixpoint win. Chris, do you want to vote for the accused pedophile . This is like if were going to test the gap between what you said in the surveyor and reality. I dont know about that. Id like to know the fact feature, susan page, youre holding your powder try, Jonathan Swan and jason, i think you know where youre going on this one. Coming up, the russia investigation, connecting the dots of collusion we know right now. Were going to talk to luke harding, and author of the new book collusion. You know what thats about. Hes got the story, thats ahead. When trump called senator Elizabeth Warren pocahontas, she was was he propping her up for a president ial run in 2020 . It looked like he was building her up. Senator warren is here tonight to talk about that. And donald trump campaign, like a hes looking out for the donors, look at the trump tower tax cut. A total giveaway, the top 1 , it would hurt people who voted for trump, yet trump and the republicans may yet get it passed. Trump watch, you wont like this one, this is hardball, where the action is. 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Im joined by luke harding and our friend paul butler. Luke, let me ask you about this. What do you have that ties together trump with russia that say the New York Times hasnt been able to get . Well, chris, i think to understand the story of donald trump and collusion you have to go back to the cold war and to Donald Trumps first trip to Soviet Moscow in 1987. And one thing i discovered when i was investigating was the soviet government, the communist government wooed donald trump, paid for his trip. Brought him over. His travel was arranged by a soviet travel agency, the kgb. I think its pretty clear this was a cultivation attempt, which fizzled out, but then kind of was renewed in the last four or five years before donald trump became u. S. President. You know, ive long heard that russians like to have before of after the soviet union liked to have an american, their american, and use him for everything. They always feel comfortable that way. Is this that kind of case, they picked out who they wanted to deal through . Yeah, if you look at the kind of secret kgb memos from this period, extremely instructive, looking to recruit people from All Over The Place, particularly americans, certain personality traits, narcissistic, corruptible, not very good analysts, not faithful in their marriages. And really you look at all these categories and then you get to donald trump being, as i said, brought over. And then i think a process of reengagement with him about four or five years ago which led to the Extraordinary Events of last year. Luke, you write down a guilty plea of former Campaign Adviser george pop dop list thats now theres evidence of collusion. It was impossible to read the legal documents with their cold and 90 accurate. Its very damning indeed and it explains why we get vekted tweets from the president who dismisses this as fake news. Unfortunately for him its not fake news. Paul, when you look at all this evidence, its scattered, but its All Over The Place and theres a lot of it. Do you see a Criminal Enterprise Charge here, Something Like a reko, if you put it together, somebody must mast ter minding, so much money potentially involved in all these dealings . Well, Thats What Special Counsel Mueller has 16 of the countrys best prosecutors and even more fbi agents looking. So the concern is that collusion is not a crime, not even a crime for the president to be more loyal to the russians than to the american process of democracy. Its the Political Part thats supposed to prevent that, not the criminal law. Conspiracy is illegal. And so if theres evidence of conspiracy to hack hillarys emails, or to solicit Foreign Campaign contributions, then somebodys going down. And, again, thats the subject of the special counsel investigation. Luke harding, one of the earliest leads you followed was trumps history of dealing with russia as a business guy, something hes adamantly denied ever since the campaign. Lets watch. I own nothing in russia. I have no loans in russia. I dont have any deals in russia. I have no relationship to russia whatsoever. I have nothing to do with russia. I have no investments in russia. None whatsoever. I dont have property in russia. I have no dealings with russia. I have no deals in russia. I have no deals that could happen in russia because weve stayed away. Luke, if he were to say that under oath, all that under oath, would he be a perjurier . Ultimately thats for a kind of lawyer to decide. In my view yes, i think he would be on several 4re68 levels we know when he went in 1987 it was to discuss building a trump hotel in the center of moscow. From my perspective this was a dangle, held out as bait to donald trump. 30 years later hes still discussing the same project. We know from revelations in the New York Times that michael cohen, trumps lawyer, was sending an email as late as early 2016 to Vladimir Putins press guy saying help us build this tower. Meanwhile, trump is on the campaign saying, wouldnt it be good if we had better relations with russia and with vladimir. The flow is from moscow to trump than from trump to moscow. Thank you so much. Up next, senator Elizabeth Warren plays hardball. Get her thoughts on how democrats should fight the republican tax plan this week and whether she thinks donald trump is setting her up by attacking her as pocahontas and that nonsense to run for president in 2020. This is hard bag where the action is. avo if youre burdened by belly pain and constipation, and youve tried any number of laxatives, probiotics, and fiber, it could be wearing on you. Tell your doctor what youve tried and how long youve been at it. Linzess works differently from laxatives. 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