Wall. Mexico will pay for the wall. I think theyll end up being happy to do so. The wall just got 10 feet higher. We love it. We are going to build the wall. It will be a real wall. A real wall. Who is going to pay for the wall . Mexico. Who . Mexico. The back and forth between boss and top kick on the president S Immigration position has not help Congressional Republicans get any closer to a deal that would solve the daca problem and keep the government opened. If no deal is reached there will be a shutdown of the government tomorrow at midnight. Casey hunt on capitol hill gives us the update. I did talk about baby food because this Chief Of Staff talks about the president as this Cartoon Character that has to be made into a person by
language about haiti and africa. So what you have now is a Democratic Party thats bg been given a rational for this potential shutdown, the brew ha over the last week has energized their base and made it easier for democrats to say we cant work with this guy on these issues. Whereas republicans are with john kelly privately. They think this president says one thing one day, another the next, doesnt understand the issue. Fisa was in danger this morning. There was a moment we thought the president was opposing this because it included a long Term Extension of the Childrens Health insurance program. This is the president theyre dealing with. Quite frankly its a big part of the reason were here. I get a sense were going to be here for a while. Trump gave a barn burner of a speech in pittsburgh today. Hes good at standing in front
messages down the news that the president pays a lot of attention to. Its unlike anything people up here have ever seen. One of the dynamics on the hill is how much of it feels unprecedented. There was a sense that well figure it out. We always figure it out. Theres no way the government is going to shut down. But then over the weekend, the shole debate changed the landscape of this. E we have no idea whats going to happen tomorrow. We could be here tomorrow at 7 00 having a different conversation. I every day covering this, the people i talk to in these hallways, no one has any clue whats going to happen in the following 15 minutes. Were in uncharted territory. Maybe its an obvious thing to say. Youre giving us a wonderful capsule of insanity. Thank you. Lets go to cornell bellcher and jennifer rubin. I dont buy the idea this is the usual turbulence you feel on an airplane. No this is whack job. You have tob people that dont like immigration and they got people who insist on basically meeting the needs of a consistency, the hispanic people of the country, the latinos, they want to help those kids, i dont see the kid. The iron any is if they put it on the table it would pass. They have the majority of votes. The middle that doesnt call the shots . Exactly. If you have the democrats voting one way and this group Lindsey Graham is expanding the group that say theyre in favor of a solution, it wont work. Trump wont let them put it on the table, mcconnell wont, ryan
wont. I think what happens going to happen, if the house passes through, whats Mitch Mcconnell going to do . Heres the story, an uncertain trumpet, is it that the president will give on the wall thing, the president understands daca and cant fight it . Thats the message from the Chief Of Staff to the caucus the other day. The president saying today i am still a wall guy and im tough. The leadership matters. Were seeing what happens when we dont have leadership. This level of dysfunction. You cant have this. Nancy pelosi nailed it. Its amateur hour. And its dangerous for those thousands of Young Americans who have known nothing but america, theyre in the lines of fire because of this absolute chaos
and dysfunction at the top. Be a leader, take one side and stake with that side, the president is absent in this. As we said earlier, democrats and republicans have until midnight tomorrow to fund the government. Candidate trump ran on the promise that he would be a deal maker, remember that . In instances just like this one. Lets take a listen. If im elected president , im going to be in the white house a lot. Im not leaving we have deals to make. I will bring america to a new level. I will negotiate deals that nobody can negotiate deals like i do. I know nobody im running against. Nobody is going to do the things i do. Its supposed to be you get along with congress, cojoel and go back and forth and we get in a room and we have deals. Clare mckas skill tweeted,
compromise is the essence of democracy. If there ever was a time for a deal maker. Look at it this way, it seems a deal is there. Were going to take care of the dreamers, 80 say let those kids stay here. Nobody wants to send them back, they didnt come on their own, dont send them back on the governments sayso. At the same time there has to be enforcement of the immigration laws, there has to be something, whether its a wall, punishing Big Business For Hiring illegally something has to stop the immigration. Not everybody wants to say that but they will be but graham and durbin argue the deal is already there. Durbin just Sweet Twooeted unification check, border security, check, d. R. E. A. M. Ers check. The deal is there. The hard liners have a problem
with it but durbin and senator graham had the deal. Has this use of the term, the shole term which we all say ridiculously shole, but we do. He said it worse. Has now created a poison so the democrats dont want to sit down with him . Especially with minority people. Theyre so offended by it. But now they know they have him. He looks bad, a racist. What do they get out of it . If they cut a deal, they look week and give in to a bad guy whos a racist, in the end whats this chip worth . Eventually they have to do something on daca and theyll be her rows. I dont agree the democrats are holding a chip. The votes are there for the democrats, again the Durbin Graham bill, they would
vote for this bill. Theres always been the middle, ted kennedy was in the middle. We all agree, we can do it better here. We can do the deal here. President trumps Attorney Says hes eager to speak with Special Counsel mueller. He suggested mueller might set a perjury trap. Have you ever heard a lawyer said ahead of time hes worried his client is going to lie under oath . This is what this guy is saying, my guy might lie. You think the Chief Of Staff has low estimate for the brains, his lawyers are lawyers. Trump is vowing to spend four to five days a week helping republicans win in 2018. He went to pittsburgh, pennsylvania today where democrats think they have a chance to flip a republican
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the probe would wind down last year, trumps lawyer, said it would end soon. When do you believe it would reach a conclusion. Soon. What do you mean by soon. Four to six weeks. Im joined by adam schiff ranking congressman in the house committee. Im wondered if you are baffled by a lawyer for the president , his top lawyer, saying he might commit perjury because somehow the questioning would be so brilliant that he would be forced into what he called a perjury trap. What do you make of it . Im surprised with that level of candor, but wouldnt you be surprised as the lawyer knowing the president s propensity to say things arent true. So i can understand counsels concern but he is going to have to be interviewed by special
counsel. Hes made a number of statements. Some of the most incriminating have come from the president himself. Such as the comments he had on his mind when he fired james comey. So the interview has to take place. Certainly a lot of mind fields for the president s lawyer. If were going to get to the truth, the facts, hes an essential witness. They seem less worried about or less intending to avoid commenting db or letting the president testify to muellers team than they are to testify to your committee. What is it with these guys . They want to use Executive Privilege to stay away from you guys, especially the democrats on your committee, but the lawyer, they have to go face the Special Counsel . We saw this week, they shutdown steve bannon said were imposing a gag rule on steve bannon we wont let him testify
to anything he learned after he left the campaign or any conduct, meetings, conversation during the transition or his time in the administration or thereafter. Similarly Corey Lewandowski ended up doing the same thing, saying im going to refuse to answer questions because im not prepared to do it today. And then the third witness that was supposed to come in tomorrow, another administration official, they cancelled altogether. So theyre concerned about testimony before congress. Theyre most concerned, frankly, about steve bannon. They may have good reason for that concern or this may be just a broad effort to stifle the congressional investigations because they feel they have a Home Court Advantage with the republican chairman of our committee. They do. Today your committee released the testimony of glen simpson, the founder of gps. The transcript shows mr. Simpson told you that he diskcovered
there were an amazing number of people that will purchased properties from mr. Trump. What do you make of it . This is a concern i had all along. That this one area of the investigation could be potentially the most compromising of the president , and it ought to be in the exercise of Due Diligence investigated like the other allegations weve faced. When we began this investigation, there were allegations of secret meetings with Trump Campaign people which we know took place. There were allegations of what general flynn was doing, which we now know proved to be true. And there have been persistent allegations of Money Laundering, which we have not been allowed to investigate. Steve bannon is concerned about Money Laundering and simpson as well. I think it would be irresponsible for us not to look into it and find out its not true, it was just highly suggestive or no it looks like
theres merits to the allegations and the president could be potentially compromised. Theres three areas of exposure, the president may have colluded with the russians, the president may have obstructed justice and he may have been involved with Money Laundering. He and his family. All three topics still hot to investigate to you . Yes, i think we have more wrk to did on all of these topics. You can see the limitations were operating under when bannon wont talk about his time in the administration or transition. And Corey Lewandowski is saying im not prepared to answer that today, thinking thats an adequate response. So theres a lot more work we need to do, theres a lot more work just about the trump tower meeting, people that knew what went into the trump tower meeting, the Telephone Records we want to obtain so we can determine whether donald trump jr. Spoke with donald trump
senior about that meeting. But Money Laundering, could be, if there were merit to it, the most compromising in the sense the russians knew they engaged it, would have power over the United States and weve not been permitted by the majority to look at the issue. Thank you. Im joined by paul butler. What you make of all that . Money laundering is hot because of simpsons testimony, thats what they were looking at that led to the dossier, the president clearly doesnt want to talk about that. I get the feeling hes going to fire mueller the minute he goes in that direction. What the transcript says eric trump said he can get money from the russians. We have that and the suspicious pattern of real estate transactions with people in
russia. And then we have steve bannon, the guy who knew the president best, who said if the trump team goes down its going down because of Money Laundering. As you say theyve focussed occlusion, obstruction of justice, but this could be the thing that undonees the administration. It raises the question whether his campaign for president was a criminal inte enterprise. The whole question were they selling them land to get the money laundered. We think about the Political Organization of the campaign. Thats another area bannon is key. A question they will ask him is how did it work. Would it be possible for people like carter page and George Papadopoulos to meet with russians and trump not know about it. If he says to the grand jury or the fbi that he didnt know about it and he did, thats perjury. Watch these pictureses. I like the pictures that show
steve bannon sitting comfortably in the oval office. He said we were worried, we were talking to the white house about the meetings, the meeting at trump tower, we talked about it. It opened up the gate. They obviously talked about it but now he said they talked about it. How could he not. He said he thought it was treasonous, the fact they were meeting with the russians to talk about the election on behalf of President Trump. So bannon has a lot to tell mueller. I would love to be a fly in the room. You know they separate the two menendez brothers. In this case you have bannon who doesnt like the nepotism people, eric and jared and all that benefitting by their father. He may want to testify against them. Hes a prosecutors dream witness. He doesnt have exposure. He only gets in trouble if he doesnt tell the truth. Theyre going to tell him, yes, steve youre not talking to the
grand jury, youre talking to agents. But you still have to tell the truth, if you dont, youre going to jail. Executive privilege, it was wiped away because of the nixon case, it was an impeachment case, high crimes misdemeanors. There the court said no Executive Privilege. Where does it play here at all . Heres the deal. There is some limited claim in a congressional hearing before a grand jury, which is what plu mueller is working with, no credible claim. Even with the congressional committees i think trump waved it because the things they want the witnesses to talk about, Michael Flynn and why he fired comey. Trump has made statements about that. So you cant talk about something and then prevent people from talking about it. As soon as it gets to the court. Its the republicans who are running the committees that are not forcing the witness to talk. They can say, if youre claiming Executive Privilege make the president file a motion or send a letter. Its the president that has to claim it. You know all about this stuff. What is a perjury trap . Is there such a thing or is that some sort of Rhetorical Device by a lawyer to set up the innocence of his client who he thinks is going to lie . The perjury trap is when the prosecutor sets some