Public outcry over the new tent cities. And the zero tolerance policy behind them. The president just left the capital tonight after meeting with congressional House Republicans to figure out some way out of this crisis he has manufactured. The atlantic is reporting on the issue of family separations, the president said, this is a day, issue. The images are bad for us. The reporter added to the conference on immigration policy included little talk of immigration. Ununable to stem citism, reply of trumps aides have embarked on a pr campaign to blame the congress. The president has the power. Were only enforcing the law. Why not stop it . The president could put a pause on this while Congress Works out a solution. No, no, im curious into congress if they gave us the tools to adjudicate it. Does President Trump want to make the arguments the buck does not stop with him. The buck stops with the people who make the laws in the country. The president seems defiant amid the backlash punched back earlier today. Deebating from prepared remarks, he delivered a Campaign Style speech. People that come in, violate the law, endanger their children in the process. And frankly, they endanger all of our children. When you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally, which should happen, you have to take the children away. According to west now, the president sees immigration as a winning issue for him politically. Complaining repeatedly in recent months he looks weak on border enforcement and has been concerned that his base could turn on him for not being tougher. West wing sources now tell axios President Trump has shown il indication theyll climb down from the zero tolerance border policy. The board of the washington street journal warn there had has been a study in confusion. If he wants to lose the house and risk impeachment hell take mr. Bannons bad advice and keep giving democrats a daily picture of children strip fad their parents. Julia ains lis for nbc news and Jonathan Swan everyone ax koes. Jonathan, is the president going to switch or is he going to fight. Is he going to keep up this fight or climb down from that wall . Thats the question ive been asking west wing officials all week. I have got no evidence that he is ready to flip this policy to make a unilateral action to flip this policy. But hes definitely feeling the pressure. Hes definitely feeling the pressure and that house Conference Meeting that he just attended that elena from the atlantic reported on, he made clear in the meeting that the images are bad and this is a bad issue and needs to be fixed. The real question is, is he going to do it unilaterally . Is he going to tell Jeff Sessions to flip the policy . That would be a major climbdown. Trump would see that as a huge loss. That kid in the red will grab a lot of hearts. These another one. Julia, its a standing situation when the first lady of the United States seems thats the picture, seems to be challenging the president. What gives . And rosalynn carter, as well and laura bush and all these i get theyre speaking more for the country than trump is, my hunch. Its interesting that its first ladies coming out. Theyre supposed to be showing the sympathetic side of americas moral character. This is a lot of people think is in jeopardy right now as the Trump Administration pursues this but apparently and as jonathan points out, that hasnt quite gotten through to the president at least not to the point he wants to change this policy. Instead with this administration, they have doubled down on talking points. We had another press call today with all of the reporters covering this and dhs and health and hup services. And they keep trying to tell us if we could just report this story accurately, everyone would understand it from their side. That he would be sympathetic toward the government. A lot of pictures being shown are actually provided to journalists from the government. Theyre not letting us into a lot of these facilities. So were going on their pictures. So for the president to say were cherry picking for secretary nielsen to say we are reporting false news and that these children are just being treated wonderfully, that is inaccurate. We are reporting a lot of what they are giving us here. Lets look at this throughout the campaign, donald trump, candidate trump vowed to create Deportation Forces to help cut down on illegal immigration. Lets watch what he said in the campaign. Were going to have a Deportation Force and do it humanely. Were going to triple the nub of i. C. E. Deportation offices. We take anybody, come on in, anybody. Just come on in. Not anymore. Remember, under a Trump Administration, its called america first. To choose immigrants based on popularity, merit. Skill. And proficiency. Doesnt that sound nice . Our message to the world will be this. Can you cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the United States by illegally entering our country. Cant do it. These are Asylum Seekers not poor people from mexico, theyre generally little coming from latin america coming from horrible countries at this point in terms of violence. They come asking for asylum. Why dont we have faster processing . Why arent people judged whether they have an a right to asylum or not so they downtown run against the 209day limits. I dont know they would be eve or not. Theres a question of resources and issues like that. This is a very clear policy decision to enforce the law for every Single Person who comes across the border illegally which is itself sucks up a lot of resources and again, is itself clearly an administrative decision. Julia, when they come across, they can establish what country theyre coming from. A latin american it, sfraul Central American countries which have the vi leapt situations down there, they should be in a different category than just the person getting across the border from mexico who is poor and wants a better life here. Theyre in a particular category of Asylum Seekers. Why are they putting them in jail. At this point, just because you are have been persecuted, hurt from a gang or Domestic Violence under the attorney gems new standards, that is doesnt qualify you for asylum. To the president s points about crossing illegally, it doesnt matter if youre claiming asylum if you are crossing what he would say illegally. That means between the ports of entry. Whats interesting is when he talks about surging resources and tripling the number of enforcement officers from i. C. E. , he doesnt mention sending more asylum officers. We dont know what happened to the surge in judges he wanted to bring which would increase the process you just laid out. Instead, he wants to enforce the tough parts of the system and wants to make it so it is so hard to come clue legally and claim asylum that were seeing immigrants be turned away. Its getting hotter and hotter. Its not going away. Julia ansley and Jonathan Swan of axios. Earlier today it, trump once again blamed democrats for the forced separations tweeting, democrats are the problem. They dont care about crime and want Illegal Immigrants no matter how bad they be to pour into and infest our country like ms18. They cant view on their terrible pols so they view them as potential voters. Which republicans join the congress. Joining me is massachusetts senators Elizabeth Warren. If you were president , what would you do . Oh, come on. This isnt even hard. It is entirely up to the president of the United States. All he has to do right now is pick up the phone and say to Jeff Sessions, say to the department of hope land security, stop. And do not separate children from their parents. Do not rip babies out of the arms of their mothers and were done. So the parents who are going on trial because theyre applying for asylum would the kids stay with them. How would you that working. Sure, you can make them work. You dont have to prosecute them criminally. Lets keep in mind what were talking about, taking women who have been raped, beaten, who fear for their lives who flee to the United States asking for asylum and for the act of asking, from the United States government, because of donald trump, is ripping their children away from them. That is not who we are. We know the situation. They come to a port of entry, fine. If they come across the border illegal illegally, we see pictures of this it, when they come across, theyll be held for a while. Theres a 20day requirement. You have to release them after 20 days. Trump calls that is catch and release. If they wait it out the 20 days, they get to stay in the United States. No, no, no, come on. If you want to pick people up because theyve entered them illegally, get them from front of a judge. We have a process for doing there. If someone has a credible claim to make nor amnesty, a credible claim to make that they want asylum, let them make the claim. You dont take their children away because they asked. You must have watched secretary of security nielsen yesterday. Do you think she should resign . Did you like that performance . No, i did not. Before she has a chance to resign, she should be fired. You dont blame trump, you blame her . No, what im saying is he should get rid of her. All of this goes back to donald trump. Youre a political person as well as a policy person. Trumps playing this like a banjo. Hes revving up his base with this, the red hots on immigration attitudes. Hes playing it, you know hes going to play it in the election. Its not just her, its him. I dont see it this way. I think there are some things in america that go beyond politics and trump may think hes playing a little game here. But ultimately, this one hits deep where america lives. Not just democrat america, republican america, independent america, people who just dont care about politics. People who say this is not what america does, we do not put small children in cages. We do not separate them from their parents. Will this move people against trump, will people begin to see him as a bad guy now . What i care about is people push trump to stop this. Thats where we need to be right now. And its keeping in mind, this is not about legislation, this is not about anything else. This is appealing to the president of the United States, this is insisting as loudly as we can to the president of the United States, this is not who we are in america. He is taking america to a dark and ugly place. Is there anything you can do . Is the senate frozen out of the action here . I think this is about trump. You cant pass legislation. Its not a question of whether or not we could pass legislation over a long process. This is happening to children tonight while were sitting here. Trump could stop it before we get to the end. I wrote this question out. What should we do, if you were president , when people come here from Central America with children, and they come across the border illegally, how would you handle this as as opposed to how the president is handling this . We would detain them, take them in front of a court but we would not separate families. We just dont do that. Thats doable under the law even though they have the 20day rule . I think we can do that and put the resources into it. Why is trump doing this . I dont know. I cant get into Donald Trumps head and i dont want to get inside his head. Do you think hes irrational. It doesnt matter. Whatever it is hes doing, its not for mee me to speculate. The point is its wrong. Jeff sessions is calling this policy anything that takes us away from this conversation. Im with you. You say you said that Kirstjen Nielsen should go. She should be fired. What about Jeff Sessions, her boss, not her boss but account one who set this policy out . He said he wants zero tolerance. Hes the boss on this policy. Donald trump is the boss. Lets be clear. Its donald trump, this is on donald trump. She goes but sessions stays. He owns it, were done. How about Jeff Sessions . Should he go . You know, hes got a lot going on right now. I know because hes protecting the special prosecutor. Hes got a lot going on. This is the weird politics of this it, jeff session whos is a nasty immigrant guy, you know that. No kidding. At the same time he is keeping things together on the prosecution confident russian probe. Let me make though. You just said that. I know that. Let me make the coherent point around there. That is the sorts of things that the Homeland Security secretary got out and defended yesterday, come on. This is not what we should be doing for Homeland Security but all of it is back to donald trump and the tip is to stay on donald trump. If donald trump does not want children taken away from their mothers at the borders he fixes it now. If he fails to do that, the blame does not fall on anyone else, the blame falls squarely on donald trump. Does the Republican Party sayre that blame for backing him . Everyone in america who does not speak out shares that blame. This is not politics. Thank you. Well said. Senator Elizabeth Warren of massachusetts, thank you for coming on. Crisis at the border. Trump keeps pushing the false story that democrats are to blame for the separation of children from their parents. Everyone knows thats not true. Even some republicans are starting to call trump out for it. Thats ahead. Plus the russian connection. That newly revealed meeting between roger stone and a russian is another example of trumps people meeting with russians and then denying it. Theres a pattern to all this. Dont you think . The hardball roundtable on how long republicans will put up with a border crisis. Plus john kellys increasingly let trump do what he wants to do even if john kelly fears its leading to impeachment. Let me finish tonight with trump watch. There is hardball where the action is. Little things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not an injection or a cream. Its a pill that treats psoriasis differently. With otezla, 75 clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,. With reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. And the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. Dont use if youre allergic to otezla. Otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. Tell your doctor if these occur. 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I want to make it Crystal Clear that this step is not a retreat from the human rights commitments. On the contrary, we take this step because our commitment does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and selfserving organization that makes a mockery of human rights. Well with, the move comes just one day after the u. N. s top human rights official criticized the trumps administrations zero tolerance immigration policy calling it unconscionable. Well be right back. A hilton getaway means you get more because. You get another day in paradise. Get a sunset on a sunday. Get more stories to share. Get more from your Summer Getaway with exclusive hilton offers. Book yours, only at hilton. Com it is not possible as a matter of law to detain and remove whole family units who arrive illegally in the United States. Congress and the courts created this problem and congress alone can fix it. Welcome back to hardball. That was Homeland Security secretary Kirstin Nielsen yesterday falsely blaming congress for the Trump Administration policy of straighting children from their parents at the border. President trump wrapped up a meeting with House Republicans that was intended to focus on their draft comprehensive immigration bill. Earlier today, the president insists 80s congresss job to fix the family separation policy and once again pointed the finger at democrats. All we need is good legislation and we can have it taken care of. We have to get the democrats to go ahead and work with us. But amid intense backlash, even the president s republican allies are now pushing back calling for an immediate end to the family separation policy. Zero tolerance policy can be changed. Zero tolerance policy is is of their making. The white house could change it in five minutes and should. Its a mistake. Its not american to do this. Were for families and children and for keeping them together.