Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20190311

MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews March 11, 2019

Something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, i dont think we should go down that path because it divides the country and shes just not worth it. Trumps not worth it. This drew immediate action from tom steyer. Speaker pelosi thinks hes not worth it, is defending our legal system worth it. Is holding the president accountable for his crimes worth it . Is doing what is right worth it or shall america stop fighting for our principles and do what is convenient. A moment ago she was asked about it. Lets listen. Speaker pelosi, why youre posed to impeachment . Why youre imposed to impeachment right now . Ive always been opposed. Some have been demanding his impeachment since the beginning of the mueller probe. As far as im concerned, he has enough violations. Hes been involved in a lot of activity that we believe needs to be made apparent. I believe that we have everything that it needs to basically impeachmeecach him. Im here. Theres a sense of urgency on my part and many of us. This is not to say we disagree. I think every single colleague of mine agrees theres impeachable offenses. Thats one thing we all agree on. If youre creating harm to society, if youre causing things to happen in society that are unacceptable to the people in the United States of america, an up fit president can be impeached for those misdeeds that harm and corrupt society. Sarah sanders told nbc news quote, impeachment should never be on the table because the president is doing a great job. Thats his spokesperson. Speaker pelosi did tell the washington that trump is not fit to be president. Whats powerful here is pelosis statement about impeachment. It had had ts the sounds of bra. Shes not just pumping them, shes slamming them. Im joined now by democratic congresswoman of illinois. White house reporter for the lso angeles times. Thank you for coming on tonight. I was shocked by pelosis statement because it seemed to me it wasnt well were not going to do it right away. We dont have enough stuff now. It was a statement of direction. We shouldnt be going toward looking to impeach this guy even though he have a lot of evidence already. Your thoughts. Well, i think that what shes saying is regardless of the information, regardless of how unfit he is, were waiting for republican permission to go forward and hold him accountable for his crimes. I think if we let the American People see through hearings exactly how lawless he is, they will insist he be removed from office immediately. What article of impeachment are you confidence of right now he deserves to have brought against him . What article . I think the two most obvious articles, chris, are obstruction of justice and straight up corruption. Hes been taking money from foreign countries. Explain obstruction of justice in a moment, if you can. What has he done . I can see things. What do you see that hes done . Misusing his power of office to protect himself. I think hes done a number of things starting with firing mr. Comey because he was investigating his russian connections. Using any means to frustrate invaes gai investigatio investigations. I think we need public hearings to lay out the evidence for the American People so they can see exactly how lawless this president is, chris. Let me go to congresswoman. You know the speaker quite well. Tell me what you think motivated her decision to make a bold Statement Today . She added on by saying unless there were such compelling evidence that the majority of americans would agree, it would be very didivisive. Its hard to disagree with that. When mnixon was itcmpeached but when the tapes came out, they said its time for him to go. Were not at that point. If we go into impeachment hearings, that will suck up the news, all the energy in our country. We need to do things like lower Prescription Drug prices, to continue on with the agenda of the people. Making health care more affordab affordable. Increasing wages. Those are things that people come home and talk about. I fear that agenda would be off the table. Everybody that comes up to e and every one of my colleagues, youre the expert, the politician, they come up to us and you know they ask this, when will they impeachment this guy thats the question. You hit over and over again and regular people that arent progressive. They think hes on the verge of facing. Do you think the republicans will back him or wont back him if he fires mueller . If he goes after the kids, everybody figures he will fire them. Do you think the republicans will turn on him . I think there may be a tipping point. What will it be . Shooting someone on fifth avenue. Does he have to pull the trigger. If he fires mueller, that could be the triggering thing that people said, okay. That is a step too far. In the meantime, chris, we arent just sitting around watching him do what he does. There are serious investigations and were preparing, perhaps, for a time when impeachment is on the table. Right now it would suck up all the air, all the energy and we couldnt do. I dont hear that so much from my constituents. I hear from people who say, i cant afford to pay for my health care bills. Here is some more just moments ago now. Speaker pelosi expanded on what she meant by her comments. He told reporters if the Mueller Report is so con cluclusive the a bipartisan and message to the president , so be it. President nixon was not impeached until republicans saw the light. She added, i just dont believe in impeachment. They wanted to impeach president bush for the iraq war. I didnt believe it thep and i dont now. Corne cornell, i want to go to you. I wonder whether theres more information to dhachange it muc. To forclose the road is a dramatic statement. Shocking to the democrats. I think what she was trying to do, is they have done some really big things. They have voted on gun reform which is something that Many Americans have been clamoring to do but its lost in the chaos of this conversation. I understand from a Strategic Point what the speaker was trying to do. I also understand no one is above the law. Also to the congresswomans point, if theres evidence thats laid out there that he has broken a law, particularly on the security issues. If he is a National Security threat to our country, im confident that democrats will start impeachment proceedings. The problem is i dont share their enthusiasm that youll get republicans and move. N nixon was a different era. Theres no way they will get enough republicans. A recent poll found that 42 of americans believe he should be impeached. 54 agree. In november 36 favored impeachment while 59 we are opposed. A good chunk went against nixon but theres some hold out. Were not in the 70s anymore. Were in different times. Fox news didnt exist back in the 70s. Theres just a different climate now. You have seen president s approve rating be static over the better part of two years despite these bombshell revelations that we have seen from members of the press reveal whing what the muer probe is looking at. The president is an unnamed coconspirator in a crime out of new york and yet it hasnt moved. Thats what the speaker is understanding. Shes not saying sd ining stop investigations. She is saying everybody is looking at this bright shiny object of impeachment and we need to look at other things. Its also a way to take the heat out of the members who go back to their communities and say look at the speecher. I think it creates a little more space. It always strikes me watching your political career that youre an unhyphenated democrat. You come out of a big city. You have some wealth, some nonwealth. You have a Good Community to respond to. Can you tell your community i think he should be impeached but its not good politics. How do you sell that to the true blue democrat . I go home and say we are continuing these investigations. We cannot have donald trump have another two years. Impeachment at this moment and you notice the speaker did say unless. There was an unless in what she said. At this moment, this would be the most deviciivisive thing an would raise his popularity. Its not about right now. Shes talking about the direction were going in. She makes it clear in that statement shes putting on brakes to where were headed. Its not march 11th. Shes not talking about march 11th. Read the statement. This is a broad statement. We shouldnt be going in that direction. Theres also about if there is compelling information that we should it could be considered. She did put some equivocation in that. Beyond that, we know we would not be able to do our agenda, our for the people agenda. The basic things they want economically and with health care and with jobs and infrastructure. We would be completely stopped on that agenda if we moved to impeachment right now and i think it would make donald trump even more popular right now. This would be said to be, you cant win an election fairly and you decided to go around it with impeachme impeachment. Its not worth it. I accept your political acuity. I think you know what youre talking about. I think its an assessment. I dont know which way the American People will turn. The maga hat people will blame anybody on the side. We saw it through firing comey, firing his attorney general. Trying to make them all march to his music and ignore the law. Its all in broad daylight and it hasnt stopped his wigwam of support. Just this group of people that are for no matter a cultural thing. They are with him as a village. Youll never change. Your thoughts. Is it more important that democrats proceed with the agenda or get trump . Theyve had one public hearing which was in the House Oversight committee with mr. Koe l cohen. It moved the dreier acrosdrier country by 6 . We saw that entire cast of criminals come across americas tv screens then americans across the country will get direct evidence of who these people are and what theyve been doing. I believe that democrats, independents and republicans will say we need to protect this country. We need to stand up for our values and we need to get rid of the most corrupt president in american history. I think we come together over that decision. You guys are all staying with us. Putting Michael Cohen on is like putting chuck on. Thank you all. Everybody is coming back. Trump tells a Republican Campaign donors down in florida that democrats, did you know this, they hate jewish people. I never knew that. The history of politics in this country tells a completely different story. Trump associates said to make Court Appearances this week, including Paul Manafort for his second sentencing. He could get ten more years. A decade more in prison. Pardoning mr. Manafort, would that bring about impeachment . He wins every award. Hes like a kid in Little League. Trophies for everybody. How he won the glove championship without competing. Much more ahead. Stay with us. Much more ahead. Stay with us you want to buy. Its not sexy. Or delicious. Or fun. But since you need both car and home insurance, why not bundle them with esurance and save up to 10 . Which you can spend on things you really want to buy, like. Well, i dont know what youd wanna buy because im just a guy on your tv. Esurance. Its surprisingly painless. Uh, well, this will be the kitchen. And wed like to put a fire pit out there, and a dock with a boat, maybe. Why havent you started building . Well, tylers off to college. And moms getting older. And eventually we would like to retire. Yeah, its a lot. 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The president reported comments went a step further in comments he made earlier that day on the white house south lawn. I thought yesterdays vote by the house was disgraceful because its become the democrats have become an antiisrael party. They have become an antijui ia party. I thought that was a disgrace. At an event two weeks ago said she i want to talk about the political influence in this country that says its okay to puch push f push for allegiance to a foreign country. Congresswoman, your thoughts on both sides of this debate, this controversy. I want to tell you something. The worst thing that could happen to the state of israel would be to basic it partisan issue, which it wasnt for decades. Ever since the founding of israel. Thats what the president is trying to do. He is revving up this kind of myth that somehow democrats, i resent it personally as a jew and all but one of the jewish members are democrats in the house of representatives. Its so offensive to me. The idea that the woman that was on fox that was complaining about her wearing a hijab, jews fought for a long time to be able and the military, to be able to wear a skull cap or a beard if you are a religious jew. These kinds of things i took an oath of office on the five books and ilhan took it on the koran. We all took an oath of office together. Loyalty to the United States of america. This debate is so destructive. I really think the politics is on the republican side and being led by the president of the United States. In his First White House briefing in six weeks, Sarah Sanders was asked about the president s latest comments. Here is the flak ri. L lets listen sflp y. Yes or no . Does the president believe that democrats hate jews . Im not going to comment. Does he think democrats hate jewish people as he said on the south lawn . I think they have had opportunity to condemn some excellents. Im trying to answer it. Yes or no. The president has had and laid out clearly his position on this matter. Democrats had a number of opportunities to condemn specific comment and have refused to do that. Thats a question you should ask democrats what their position is. As congresswoman just said, 34 members of congress are democrats and maybe more and president ial elections Jewish Voters have supported Democratic Candidates by large margins. I knew this. This is what ive always remembered. 90 supporting fdr campaigns. Over 80 for jfk. Since the 1990, jewish support for candidates have remained high. High 70s to 80 in that range. Talk about that. Trump needs to be reminded of the facts. I dont think hes concerned about the history or facts. He sees a story that he wanted to keep in the news so after that vote on thursday, he goes out and gives characteristically over the top statement about democratics hate israel. Democrats hate israel. He did it plumultiple times. This is something he the doing intentionally the awkwardness i saw from Sarah Sanders trying to defend this saying republicans condemned steve king. She was asked did the president condemn steve king and she waffled and said ive condemned steve king. He hasnt. The president is not pure. I was there when he told jewish doe flnors that you arent goin vote for me because i dont want your money. We pulled that for you. Hes not worried about that. We anticipated that bad language. President trump is himself been accused of peddling an antisemitism in the past. He made these remarks in 2015. I know why youre not going to support me. Youre not going to support me because i dont want your money. You want to control your own politician. Thats fine. Good. In 2016 then candidate trump tweeted and later deleted be image of Hillary Clinton over a bed of money next to a six pointed star. It was the star of david. As the president refused to condemn the white supremacist march in charlottesville. Last october in a tweet then House Majority leader Kevin Mccarthy singled out democratic voters with jewish heritage for the attempting to quote buy there election. Mccarthy later deleted tweet but not our memory of it. Your thoughts about this. This latest problem for trump. I dont think theres any question that mr. Trump has been associated intentionally with the vilification of different people, including jews in our society. I think that its a tactic that he uses to divide and conquer people. He plays on racism intentionally and done it for his entire political career. This is one more attempt by him to divide and conquer people based on race, ethnicity and religion. I think its 100 wrong. I think its something as unamerican as i can imagine. His people know what hes feeling because they express it openly. Fox news host stirred trouble on saturday night with comments she made. Here it is. Shes not getting this antiisrael sentiment doctrine from the democrat party. If its not rooted in the party, where is she getting it from . Think about it. Omar wears a hijab, which according to the coran, 33 59 tells women to cover so they wont get molested. Is her adherence to this islamic doctrine indicative to shria law . Are you following that . Fox news strongly condemned piros remarks adding they do not reflect those of the network and we have addressed the matter with her directly. Fox is too much for fox. What do you think about the stretch appealing pandserring to the audience that if she wears this that dez ssays he wao get rid of the constitution. Its his ace in the hole. That base of voters who stick to him are most anxious about the changes that are happening in our country. You feed that and continue to feed that. Thats the shame of it. Its also, i know im out on the jew

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